In 1903 the Agua Caleinte Cupeno were removed from their ancestral tribal home, the Village of Kupa also known as Warner's Hot Springs. The Cupeno were forced onto the Pala Indian Reservation. This is known as the Cupeno Trail of Tears.
On June 1st, 2011 and February 1st, 2012 162 Warner Ranch Evictee Agua Caliente Cupeno were removed from the PBMI Association by the Pala Enrollment Committee. This is our Second Trail of Tears.
So not only is all the economic development fund for 18 years gone, all of the surplus funds are gone, and all of the per capita saved through disenrollment is gone.
And none of it went to the members. Well, they did get a $500 per month increase, but that was after a $1000 a month decrease. Pretty good record of financial mismanagement. Going from large surplus to missing payment on the bond for the Casino.
Gotta hand it to the Pala EC. And keep handing it over and over and over again.
The EC lost the almost $150 million in surplus we had? Well actually more since I’m sure it grew a little more since then. Also $350,000 for 2 “for 2” law enforcement officers??! WTF we payed them each $175,000 a year on top of what there regular job salary was to patrol the Rez? That’s way to much for a side job. Seems to me Nieto doesn’t really know what she is doing it just seemed like it but anyone with access of millions a dollars a year can look like they know what their doing until they blow through all the money. They should have told us sooner instead of trying to hide it for so long until we were bust. Also is there a way you can find out how many enrolled member we have?? I truly believe the only way the EC keep getting re-elected and why percap is down is because rob has falsely enrolled many more people who he now has to pay percap to just to vote him back in every year. He is enrolling his supporters families and kids who don’t qualify and they know this so they vote him back in knowing that’s the only way for them to stay enrolled and any percap to them is better than no percap. The rest of us who have always been enrolled and not just the past couple years know the difference.
Also could you look into how many enrolled members we have. I know we had about 900 adults and kids and then they disenrolled around 160 people? That would make 740 members. When asked in announcements they say anywhere from 900 to 1300 members? So either they aren’t counting the disenrolled and left them on the rolls or they have enrolled another 160 people in the past six years which seems like a lot for a small tribe. For the big Pharma lawsuit announcement they stated 1300 members and for the election results announcement in November they stated 900. Which is it ?
A felon indeed plus many other minor grimes like the background report states. I see nothing in the background report that indicates that Robert Smith is "HONORABLE" in anyway. He is a felon, a crook, a liar, a cheater, a drug dealer, a rapist, a no good corrupt son of a bitch, involved in covering up Murders on the Reservation, steals the minors trust account money,buys new vehicles for his family members and friends with Tribal funds, pays for insurance on these vehicles with Tribal funds. Put non blood members on the Tribal roles and gives them per capita benefits, build homes for these fake Tribal members for their votes to keep him and his corrupt partner, Theresa Nieto in charge of all the financial aspects of the PBMI. So this is the kind of Chairman that you Pala people want with this kind of track record to run your Reservation. UNBELIEVABLE HOW SOME PEOPLE CAN BE SO STUPID AND BE BLINDED FOR SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN THEY SHOULD BE GETING RAISES INSTEAD OF DECREASES.
it couldn't be simpler. make the motion to rescind the resolution 01-07 and Resolution 01-10 and that will strip all the power away from the EC and the casino moneys and return the authority to the General Council. Please notice Resolution No. 01-10. This is a good example of one of Smiths illegal resolutions. Notice how the signature page is separate from the main resolution. This signature page has been attached to several phony resolutions allowing smith to completely ignore the General Council and do whatever he wants. Take the power away. move to rescind. IT IS THAT EASY. All the BS by RS would come to an end.
Why didnt anybody complain about "Pala Band of Mission Indian" in 2001. The above documents show that is the name of the tribe. Why complain and say its not a tribe now?
In 2001 The Pala Band was still listed on the Federal Register as Pala Band of Luiseno Mission Indians.
It was not until 2014 that Pala changed its name and was put on the register as the Pala Band of Mission Indians.
The PBMI is not a tribe and has never been one.
In 1893 the Pala Band of Luisenos were granted a reservation at Pala.
In 1903 the Cupeno Tribe and other Warner Ranch Evictees had land purchased next to Pala for a reservation.
In 1961 the Pala Band of Luisenos and Warner Ranch Evictees formed an association in order to conduct business. But it was never a federally recognized tribe.
In 1978 the Pala Band of Luisenos was added to the Federal Recognized Tribes list. The Cupeno were left off by error.
The PBMI is not an historical entity whereas the Pala Luiseno is an historic band of the Luiseno Tribe and the Cupeno are an Historic Tribe as well.
Your interpretatiin of history is way off. The Pala Band of Mission Indians is made up of various landless Indians moved to Pala. The Luiseno at Pala were adopted into the tribe, at the chagrin of many elders. The US has recognized the Pala tribe as a federally recognized tribe since there conglomeration through removal. The Pala tribe refused the IRA in the 1930s so they remained without a federally recognized or acknowledged paper document, but they kept there traditional Cupeno leadership roles up into the 1940s. The US government still recognozed and conducted business with the tribe during these times up until the 1960s when they demanded the tribe adopt a Constitution governing document. By then, the traditional Cuoeno ledership system and religion was no longer practiced so the government to government model was used to create the Articles of Association establishing a formal paper recognition. The Old Pala Luiseno followed their traditional/religious leadership which has nothing to do with Pala Cupeno people, they are only included in the government to government formal paper leadership established in the governing documents. The name on the register has nothing to do with anything. If anything, your distorted history and back uo self written document states that the name was changed from Luiseno Band to Pala Band, which is the original name, meaning, and association established in 1903 with the removal. Today, 2019, the Pala Band of Mission Indians is a federally recognized tribe made up of individuals decended from the original rolls. That does not mean that the Old Pala Luiseno are the tribe and that the Cuoeno dont exsist. You can change the name to whatever you want, the federal government will always revert to and reference the establishing documents of the tribe and the history of how that govt to govt relatiknship was started. Since most tribes started relationship with the US government through treaty, the Court, Congress and the President have always used those first documents to resolve issues between tribes and the government. In Californias case, since the trwaties were never ratified, each tribe has to use there governing do uments and histories with the US governemnt as the reference points through which to resolve issues. The federal register was created in 1935, that does not mean every tribe peior to the establishment dont exsist. In fact, many tdibes chnage there names all the time to reflect accurate histories and trajectories. Stop trying to change histoey to suite your own needs, and keep Pala histoey accurate. The federal government courts will look at the whole story, which is linked back prior to the Treaty of Guadaluoe Hidalgo, and establish when and where the Pala tribe was established as a govt to govt entity.
11:07 You must have received your history lesson on Pala from Shasta Gaughns Dishitation. Back up everything you said with documentation, The BIA would love to see it since they haven't been able to find a single page supporting what you said. They would have loved to have had them for court. Can't do that since they don't exist. Have you seen the original roles. The original roles are comprised of the Warner Ranch Indians (1913) the Old Pala Indians (1895) and the adoptees. So if the BIA meant for everyone to be one big happy family then why did they distinguish the groups in the original roles. Why does Robert Smith refuse to recognize the adoptees and their heirs as legitimate members of Pala? Because Pala is not a tribe. It is a place with a Spanish name derivative. Pa-La just like Temeku-La. Pala doesn't mean water in Luiseno but Pa or Pah does. Pala is shovel in mexipino as per those Mexican citizens living across from the casino. And if you really want to get in to history then try reading the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. You will find that there is a clause in there that prevents Mexican Indian Citizens from joining up with Indians in the US and that they are banned from receiving any benefits intended for the Indians of the US. Whoops! There goes Pala's Mexican corner. Won't be difficult to reclaim those lands intended for real Cupeño people. There is case law supporting such actions. It will happen and sooner than later.
@11:07 We the natives, are so tired of idiots trying to tell us our history or who we are. Go back to the socialist university hole you crawled out of spew your retoric elsewhere. You are not welcome or at liberty to define customs, traditions, rites or ceremonies of our people. If you are native, then you are a product of non native indoctrination and are a betrayed of your relations, you are worse than some non native trying to peghole us, you are a native pretending to be a native spewing non native fake news intentionally trying to dupe your own heritage. In either case stay out because you are an outsider.
Remijo Lugo wasn’t a Landless Indian. He was a member of the Morongo reservation. It was founded in 1876. Look at their roles back in 1902 and previous. He’s on them. Why should the Warner’s ranch evictees have to be sharing with his great great grandchildren like Nieto’s kids or Dion’s kids?
Did anyone notice that the Pala EC reported allocated revenue of $204 million in 2008, but now reports $108 million? That means the Casino take is down almost half from 2008.
That also means that the money invested in the Casino actually caused the revenue to go down. So the 2012 expansion that cost $120 million, and the 2018 expansion that cost $175 million, and the RV Park and Wine Cave that cost $5.7 million actually made things worse financially.
Revenue decreased $96 million over ten years. That is not a one time loss. That is just the difference in reported numbers from 2008-2018. Each of the years between 2009 and 2018 the Pala EC reported less than $204 million. Even if you report a gradual decrease of $10 million per year, it totals out to $545 million in reduced revenue over the last 10 years.
Now look at the Economic Development fund. The Pala EC reports budget items to show how the $5.5 million will be spent, but there is never any income from the investments. It is just a pit where they toss in money and nothing ever comes out. You can see the Raceway, Robert's Ranch, the Avocado grove, and I guess the Vineyard, but they are not investments because they never generate income. They are expenses. So you can add $180 million in losses to the $545 million lost revenue.
Now add in the $120 million for the Casino remodel, and $175 million for the expansion. That makes $1,020 million, or over a billion dollars for those of you that are math challenged.
And it's all easy to see. If anything this calculation is an understatement. The real numbers are worse. And we left out the lobbying money to promote online gaming in California. We left out the contributions to the FBI retirement fund, the payouts to the San Diego Sheriff's Dept to keep Smith supporters free to harm members. We left out the money paid to the San Diego District Attorney's Office, the parties for California Legislators, the bribes to BIA officials. We left out Pala Interactive. We have no way of knowing how many Pala employees collect paychecks without working, or how many members were enrolled that don't have the blood. We know there are a lot of real estate investments and properties that Smith and Nieto bought under fake names, and mansions in Maui and Ireland.
The list goes on and on. But I just put a price tag on how much it costs the members each year to keep their pig. And this also doesn't include casino comps, and private jets, and personal vehicles, and no limit American Express card, and cash from the casino.
No wonder why the Band is broke. It is impossible to feed a pig that is so greedy.
Come on R&R, the only numbers p.b.m.i. members can comprehend is the little numbers on their monthly per cap check, your screwing them up with all the zeros in your figures, they only understand numbers with 3 zeros not 7
Maybe so. Just saying that the Casino added 500 slots but managed to lose $94 million in revenue last year. It's a head scratcher. There would have been more money without the added slots.
Or the other explanation is that the report is phony. What a surprise! The great and wonderful Chairman decided the best way out of his current message is to blame Casino management and take it out of the member's pockets.
Seems familiar. Like the $16 million settlement Dickstein owed to Rumsey Rancheria that was paid with the money saved by disenrolling the Brittens.
Or Nieto and Dion themselves, pala is full of imposters who don't belong, this is what keeps pig boy in power, people who don't belong voting him in so they and their descendants can stay in. So when you true pala members see the likes of nietos, eagletons,and maxies running around with your money in their pockets, see them for what they are, squatters, just like ancestor Remijo Lugo
One thing for sure is that the wrong people keep dying in Pala. This morning Clarence Niejo aka Luchie, passed away at home after a long hospital stay. He will for sure be missed by anyone that took the time to know him. Prayers go out to his Children and his Grand children and to all of his family and friends. REST IN PEACE MY FRIEND. Why can Robert Smith be the one to die or Theresa Nieto. There would not be many to morn those two ass wipes. Hope it won't be to much longer.
It is sad but the stupid light finally went on for one Pala member. Now she is ranting about all the things Robert Smith is doing to the tribe and its members. Yet she is the one who whenever Robert wanted would make motions that allowed Robert to steal even more money, hurt more people, take away individuals per capita, ban members from tribal business and evict persons for associating with persons who have been evicted. It goes on and on. Now though the shoe is on the other foot. There is an old saying, "Everyone loves the Vikings until it is you they are coming after." Well the Viking is now coming after you and it is too late. You were told and warned and you did not listen. The final stage has been set and all the lavatopinos and lugoshits couldn't line up fast enough to vote the way Robert wanted them to vote. The casino will be bankrupt before the year is over. You have been warned and you are responsible for letting it happen. Best start worrying about what you are going to do now because tomorrow it will be too late. You didn't want to believe the truth Sayers when the truth was being spoken and people willingly sacrificed everything in attempts to protect the tribe. Instead you laughed at them, you spit on them, you threatened them, you disenrolled them, you took their money away and you took away their heritage. They are where you are going to be before the year is out. Don't even think Christmas bonus. Think bankruptcy. It is coming. Will Robert accept individual bankruptcy on his loans to tribal members? I doubt it. He will take your car and evict you. How dare you try to steal from a thief. Those of us that have already visited the bottom are climbing up. It will feel good to see you as you are going down. When you hit that bottom and you are looking up at the rest of us you will find that we are not like you. We will be reaching down to pull you up because that is who we are. See you real soon.
I don’t understand why the people of pala don’t immediately get Robert out? Why doesn’t the EC ban together and get Robert out? He is destroying everything. Anyone that has been enrolled can stay enrolled as far as I am concerned just help us get Robert out. Let the brittians back in also. They will help get Robert out. Stop being so blind. Per cap has done nothing but go down. If we don’t do something we might not have a casino soon. Please for the sake of all of us GET ROBERT OUT.
They replace any high paying machine with low paying machines or just swap out the random generator. The place is empty daytime except for maybe the bus people. And they are too busy stealing the toilet paper and getting free drinks and waters to really gamble. . I feel sorry for the employees. Their tips are shit according to them. They keep firing employees with any seniority because their pay is higher. They replace them with part timers to pay them less and save on insurance. That chief is as bad as Donakd Trump. So dumb he is bankrupting a Casino which should be a cash cow, RIP Pala Casino.....you used to be a nice place.
What do you mean as as bad as Donald Trump? I guess creating new jobs and lowest unemployment in many years plus home values going up is a bad thing,you idiot
Donald Trump is still an asshole and only cares about his stupid wall which will never stop the illegals or the drugs from coming to the United States because all the illegals are pretty smart about digging tunnels even under walls. Its a waste of tax payers money. Trump should quit and go work and sell big mac's or at Burger King where can eat all the fast food he wants.
@11:08 you are the fucking idiot. Trump isn't the reason for low unemployment , it's a continuation of the Obama years.Home values are actually going down in many areas and sales are slowing. But keep believing the Orange OompahLoompahnTrump.
Trump and Robert Smith were corrupted by the same people. The gaming machine industry CEO's. They take mindless idiots and teach them every trick in the book including convincing them that they are intelligent and even greater than god. Trump hides behind the sovereignty or the US and Smith hides behind tribal sovereignty. Well sovereignties fall. It is called revolution and revolution is the right of every true sovereign nation - the People. Trump and Smith will eventually see the inside of prison cells or even better they will get a Mussolini send off which is what they really deserve. So to use this site to argue about the benefits or misdeeds of Trump is below stupid. Trump is a lump of shit and Smith is a lump of shit and you want to see if you can taste test the better parts of piles of shit. Really??? Trump is coming for the Indians and you better believe it. Smith is ahead of Trump. He is already destroying his tribe and hurting anyone that gets in his way. They will both leave in their jets and try to hide but we will find them and we will search out their descendants and put on them what they have put on us. It will be over soon. Yes it will. Patience. Just a little more patience. They both know it is coming and they will bloat up like the fat pigs that they are but they have nothing left.
Let Trump take a Dump on Smiths head. Trump is still an ASSHOLE and Smiths face is his toilet paper. I guess that's what they mean when they say "lets have some face time".
And now on the lighter side, Pala Interactive CEO Jim Ryan says they have 90 days to comply with the Interstate Wire Transfer Act. The regulations bar interstate payments for online gaming. It is hard not to laugh. Chairman Porky sunk a $100 million into this venture for the software. Another $70 million in start up costs. The another $35 million for operating costs. And not a cent went to members. Instead they got a paycut.
now that we have documents and evidence of misappropriating tribal funds.we can bring it to the interior department and but we need 500 votes to impeach and to throw the law into the picture finally.can we get 500 votes .he always out votes everyone .we need the people of pala to now standup and do this thing right.we can all write our signatures for the interior department to see that there is over 3/4 of our people are reporting this criminal to be removed officially by the feds due to our tribe reporting the crimes that have been committed and by whom so we better have all the evidence also to back up these claims we need real hard evidence before we can do anything. the NCAI they already know about how bad this one is...so he is known already thru out Indian tribes. all because he has a few hundred supporters..will they support him again we need 500 plus votes to remove this corrupt council whom is also the EC.who made that happen.when they corruptly formed the EC which should be made up of other tribal members not the councilman already holding a seat on the council.what stupidity! these councilman dont even hold a degree in business nor have the education to run a multi million dollar business .let alone being paid as if they all have a phd in business.take away those huge salaries first thing we should've done.no more pay for fucking up our tribal business.all should be in jail for missappropriating tribal funds that are federal monies if they didn't know..its a felony to take even $200 from any of the accounts the tribe has.the end result is termination of our tribe.no more PALA BAND of Mission Indians
Lets get it started and do whats right for the Tribe and not what Smith and Nieto want. They are only out for their own agenda and the Members of PBMI don't matter one little bit to the current EC. All they are good for is treating the the Members like dirt and stealing money that does not belong to them. If 500 members can't see this then they will get what they deserve. How will they handle waiting for that big yellow truck every month to get free government food to survive month to month. The suicide rate will increase to its highest level ever all because they are to scared to stand up to a little corrupt son of a bitch aka Robert Smith.
With all the post that say Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto are stealing the Bands money what will it take to have a complaint against them through the Federal Government to have arrested? Won't an Audit have to be done first to see if all the facts are true and then file a complaint with the FEDS. Or how does that work with an Indian Reservation? I know for a fact that there was a complaint filed with the FBI and the IRS, who has not acted on it as of yet. The FBI has had many people call them and complain about there no acting on the complaints and all they ever say is that it's an on going investigation and that they can not give any information to the people even the ones that signed on the complaints.
There was a new complaint filed about 20 days ago and it was backed up with a lot of verified evidence concerning the spending by Smith and others including but not limited to copies of checks through Well Fargo bank and the Corner Stone Bank in Carlsbad. Also a copy of the signature cards that were on file at these banks. We are just waiting for an answer to see if there will be a yes or no from the Grand Jury. It should't be very much longer. Just keep praying that it will be enough to get the ball rolling in our favor.
Look people, you all need to stop thinking the F.B.I. Will do anything concerning pala & pigman. Do any of you realize how much money Robert / pigman has funneled into the F.B.I. retirement fund? A large percentage of money that should be on your monthly checks goes the feds retirement fund, so why would agents who are being set up for life after they retire do anything to cut of a source of money that will have them living comfortable at your expense? The answer is simple, they won't!
At 8:26 AM according to someone close to the check writer he did not pay any taxes on that check. It was considered a bonus pay out and Smith didn't want taxes withheld and stated that he would take care of it when he files his taxes. He also claims big losses under the Pala Tub business. He always uses the laundry mat as a write off when he files his taxes. At least that's what his brother Andrew says.
I wonder why some of the Members that have lost a loved one that was enrolled doesn't question why they never received the life insurance payout from the Tribe after there loved one passes away. Some that have died didn't owe the Tribe and still no life insurance money from the Tribe. Do you think that Robert Smith or one of his followers are listed as the the one who gets the money in case that member dies. I THINK SO.
You have to sign up for the life insurance and name an heir, it is not an automatic thing. The life insurance ws set up to cover funeral/death expenses and needs to be opted in by the member. Orthwise, they get nothing.
Who sets the pay scale for the EC members, and who approves it. And also who sets the pay scale for Tribal employees ans who approves it. Why are Tribal employees started out at such o such a high pay scale for their jobs. In a normal working field employees are started out with the with the min. wage and then receive pay raises as they progress in that field. This is an area that should be brought up and let the people have a say in the pay scale of Tribal employees. Most of the jobs through the Tribe start out at between 12 to 18 dollars per hour and they earn pay raises on top of that. That's a lot to pay someone to just sit around and do nothing all day but hide and sleep.
When are you people going to wake the hell up and see what Robert Smith is doing to you and your Reservation. Can't you see what he is doing by his track record. He kicks people out of their homes, destroys families, protects criminals, steals your money, kills your relatives, blames everyone for the way people are treated except himself, rigs the elections to keep him and Nieto on the EC. Frames innocent people for crimes that he and his brother commit. I just don't understand why no one will stand up to this son of a bitch. Without the title of Chairman attached to his name he is nothing, nada, zero,00000000000. so why are you people so affraid of this no good for nothing little fat German Bastard. Get him out of the EC and out of Pala all together he does not belong and he knows it that why he won't let the elections be run on an even playing field. He is afraid that he and his brother Andrew and their kids will be kicked out of Pala for good. The only bad thing right now on the Pala Reservation that's destroying all the customs and traditions of the Band is Robert H. Smith and Theresa J. Nieto. They are totally destroying every thing that that our Ancestors built for our people. Get him and Nieto out for the good of our people before all we have left are memories of what could have been.
Today i attended a funeral for Mr. Diaz and while there i could not stop from thinking about the death of Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto and why the wrong people are dying before them. I also imagined how happy Pala would be if either of them were to die for whatever reason. That may sound a little harsh but it got me through the service and something to look forward to.
I heard that Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto have stated that by Howard Diaz marring Bonny before his death doesn't make any difference in the home where bonny lives. They said that if they want this home that they will take it and a piece of paper will not stop them.
I don't think that the EC will do anything to hurt Bonny. She is a well respected lady who has never had a bad thing to say about anyone. I do not believe that there is one single person living in Pala that would vote against Bonny Diaz living in that home that her and Howie lived in for so many years. I also can't believe that this kind of talk has been started already with Howie just being laid to rest 3 days ago. Please show a little respect for this family and let them have some peace while mending the loss of their loved one. Thank you.
I think people are upset simply because how many homes are still sitting empty that should have been torn down (the meth labs), the occupants passed away over a year ago and is STILL filled with their personal belongings....on and on....what the hell is wrong with this tribe. They take away the home from 2 elders, 1 seriously ill who did not have the capacity to make their own decisions. We need to rethink our housing department and policies because obviously it only applies to select people and families.
Very true 8:45 pm i wonder why Theresa Nieto's dad still gets to live in house after his wife passed away almost 3 years ago. Double standards indeed. The tribal employees still do word for him also. So Bonnie Diaz should be able to live there as long as she wants to. And if the EC says any different then the people should speak up and protect her home. She was with Howard for almost 50 years and that should mean something. The home in question was done through Amia and should not be included in the Pala housing project. When the leases were signed by the people moving in the lease agreement states that if a spouse of the head of household passes then the remaining spouse can live in the home as long as the remaining spouse did not remarry and have a new spouse move in. That's what the original leases state. So leave these people alone and move on to more important issues like the financial status of the Band.
You're absolutely right, the original AMIHA contracts still stand. Legally only the homeowner can change the contract. However, AMIHA has to abide by each Tribe's ordinances as to how remaining non Tribal spouses are or are not allowed to remain in the home. So in other words, it was PALA's ordinances that allowed the spouses to remain, not AMIHA.
Can Robert Smith change the the original AMIHA contracts or the Tribes original ordinance to suit his agenda? Or does it stand as binding on these original AMIHA homes.
No the original contracts are binding unless THE HOMEOWNER signs an agreement to change it, however AMIHA must comply with the Tribe's ordinances. Each Tribe's different but I would assume legally the original ordinances would apply as "grandfathered" in as it was in place at the time of the original contract signed. However the newer homes do not have this protection unless the ordinance was the old one still in place. Same thing applies as the AMIHA contracts, even if it's through the Tribe, the original contract is binding. The ONLY way the original contracts can be broken is if the HOMEOWNER, OR PERSON BUYING THE HOME changes it with a new contract.
Way back when he tried to change the contracts it was good no one fell for it. When Andrew Moro tried to have people sign a "new" contract to build onto their original AMIHA homes there could be a plausible argument he did not fully disclose the circumstances which would make those "new" contracts null and void, the original contracts still binding. No matter if it's an AMIHA or new home the original contracts are still binding.
Andrew Moro is nothing but an ass kissing ball licking punk with a questionable back ground about hurting people that worked under him. The most dangerous part about Andrew Moro is that he and Robert Smith are closely related, remember who Domingo Moro was. Two peas in a pot that way over cooked. Remember how hard Robert pushed for the Tribe to hire Andrew Moro in the beginning with all the praise and how Andrew Moro was a main reason that Walmart was a big success. it was a bullshit from the get go. Andrew is as big a liar as his cousin Robert. The family that corrupts together stays together.
You need to understand family facts. Domingo Moro the citizen Indian is Robert's grandfather. Andrew Moro was his brother (who did NOT give up his rights) was Andrew Moro's grandfather. Yes Robert and Andrew are DISTANT cousins. What Andrew did was a disgrace, his family is not happy with him. He was a product of not being raised on the reservation and no clue as to customs and traditions. Pala was duped and made some serious mistakes re-electing Robert. I understand your frustrations but you really need to get your facts right as to whom each family is descended from.
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So not only is all the economic development fund for 18 years gone, all of the surplus funds are gone, and all of the per capita saved through disenrollment is gone.
And none of it went to the members. Well, they did get a $500 per month increase, but that was after a $1000 a month decrease. Pretty good record of financial mismanagement. Going from large surplus to missing payment on the bond for the Casino.
Gotta hand it to the Pala EC. And keep handing it over and over and over again.
The EC lost the almost $150 million in surplus we had? Well actually more since I’m sure it grew a little more since then. Also $350,000 for 2 “for 2” law enforcement officers??! WTF we payed them each $175,000 a year on top of what there regular job salary was to patrol the Rez? That’s way to much for a side job. Seems to me Nieto doesn’t really know what she is doing it just seemed like it but anyone with access of millions a dollars a year can look like they know what their doing until they blow through all the money. They should have told us sooner instead of trying to hide it for so long until we were bust. Also is there a way you can find out how many enrolled member we have?? I truly believe the only way the EC keep getting re-elected and why percap is down is because rob has falsely enrolled many more people who he now has to pay percap to just to vote him back in every year. He is enrolling his supporters families and kids who don’t qualify and they know this so they vote him back in knowing that’s the only way for them to stay enrolled and any percap to them is better than no percap. The rest of us who have always been enrolled and not just the past couple years know the difference.
Also could you look into how many enrolled members we have. I know we had about 900 adults and kids and then they disenrolled around 160 people? That would make 740 members. When asked in announcements they say anywhere from 900 to 1300 members? So either they aren’t counting the disenrolled and left them on the rolls or they have enrolled another 160 people in the past six years which seems like a lot for a small tribe. For the big Pharma lawsuit announcement they stated 1300 members and for the election results announcement in November they stated 900. Which is it ?
What a joke. Your chairman is a felon and you wonder who’s steeling all your money. Are you all that gullible?
A felon indeed plus many other minor grimes like the
background report states.
I see nothing in the background report that indicates
that Robert Smith is "HONORABLE" in anyway.
He is a felon, a crook, a liar, a cheater, a drug dealer,
a rapist, a no good corrupt son of a bitch, involved in covering up Murders on the Reservation, steals the minors trust account money,buys new vehicles for his family members and friends with Tribal funds, pays for insurance
on these vehicles with Tribal funds.
Put non blood members on the Tribal roles and gives them per capita benefits, build homes for these fake Tribal members for their votes to keep him and his corrupt partner, Theresa Nieto in charge of all the financial aspects of the PBMI.
So this is the kind of Chairman that you Pala people want with this kind of track record to run your Reservation.
UNBELIEVABLE HOW SOME PEOPLE CAN BE SO STUPID AND BE BLINDED FOR SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN THEY SHOULD BE GETING RAISES INSTEAD OF DECREASES.
it couldn't be simpler. make the motion to rescind the resolution 01-07 and Resolution 01-10 and that will strip all the power away from the EC and the casino moneys and return the authority to the General Council. Please notice Resolution No. 01-10. This is a good example of one of Smiths illegal resolutions. Notice how the signature page is separate from the main resolution. This signature page has been attached to several phony resolutions allowing smith to completely ignore the General Council and do whatever he wants. Take the power away. move to rescind. IT IS THAT EASY. All the BS by RS would come to an end.
Did anyone think of adding up the amounts to see how much money is missing?
Why didnt anybody complain about "Pala Band of Mission Indian" in 2001. The above documents show that is the name of the tribe. Why complain and say its not a tribe now?
@2:22 am
In 2001 The Pala Band was still listed on the Federal Register as Pala Band of Luiseno Mission Indians.
It was not until 2014 that Pala changed its name and was put on the register as the Pala Band of Mission Indians.
The PBMI is not a tribe and has never been one.
In 1893 the Pala Band of Luisenos were granted a reservation at Pala.
In 1903 the Cupeno Tribe and other Warner Ranch Evictees had land purchased next to Pala for a reservation.
In 1961 the Pala Band of Luisenos and Warner Ranch Evictees formed an association in order to conduct business. But it was never a federally recognized tribe.
In 1978 the Pala Band of Luisenos was added to the Federal Recognized Tribes list. The Cupeno were left off by error.
The PBMI is not an historical entity whereas the Pala Luiseno is an historic band of the Luiseno Tribe and the Cupeno are an Historic Tribe as well.
https://palawatch.blogspot.com/2018/09/cupa-news-14.html
6:03am
Your interpretatiin of history is way off. The Pala Band of Mission Indians is made up of various landless Indians moved to Pala. The Luiseno at Pala were adopted into the tribe, at the chagrin of many elders. The US has recognized the Pala tribe as a federally recognized tribe since there conglomeration through removal. The Pala tribe refused the IRA in the 1930s so they remained without a federally recognized or acknowledged paper document, but they kept there traditional Cupeno leadership roles up into the 1940s. The US government still recognozed and conducted business with the tribe during these times up until the 1960s when they demanded the tribe adopt a Constitution governing document. By then, the traditional Cuoeno ledership system and religion was no longer practiced so the government to government model was used to create the Articles of Association establishing a formal paper recognition. The Old Pala Luiseno followed their traditional/religious leadership which has nothing to do with Pala Cupeno people, they are only included in the government to government formal paper leadership established in the governing documents. The name on the register has nothing to do with anything. If anything, your distorted history and back uo self written document states that the name was changed from Luiseno Band to Pala Band, which is the original name, meaning, and association established in 1903 with the removal. Today, 2019, the Pala Band of Mission Indians is a federally recognized tribe made up of individuals decended from the original rolls. That does not mean that the Old Pala Luiseno are the tribe and that the Cuoeno dont exsist. You can change the name to whatever you want, the federal government will always revert to and reference the establishing documents of the tribe and the history of how that govt to govt relatiknship was started. Since most tribes started relationship with the US government through treaty, the Court, Congress and the President have always used those first documents to resolve issues between tribes and the government. In Californias case, since the trwaties were never ratified, each tribe has to use there governing do uments and histories with the US governemnt as the reference points through which to resolve issues. The federal register was created in 1935, that does not mean every tribe peior to the establishment dont exsist. In fact, many tdibes chnage there names all the time to reflect accurate histories and trajectories. Stop trying to change histoey to suite your own needs, and keep Pala histoey accurate. The federal government courts will look at the whole story, which is linked back prior to the Treaty of Guadaluoe Hidalgo, and establish when and where the Pala tribe was established as a govt to govt entity.
@11:07 pm you must be Robert's attorney. Your post is Fake News.
It's Pala Band, not Pala Tribe. There is no "Pala Indian" except the Luiseno.
Go back to 1793, you'll find the Cupeno at Warner's (Kupa) and the San Luiseno, but you won't find a "Pala Tribe".
There are 2 reservations at Pala, there are no "Pala Indians", Pala is not a tribe.
11:07 You must have received your history lesson on Pala from Shasta Gaughns Dishitation. Back up everything you said with documentation, The BIA would love to see it since they haven't been able to find a single page supporting what you said. They would have loved to have had them for court. Can't do that since they don't exist. Have you seen the original roles. The original roles are comprised of the Warner Ranch Indians (1913) the Old Pala Indians (1895) and the adoptees. So if the BIA meant for everyone to be one big happy family then why did they distinguish the groups in the original roles. Why does Robert Smith refuse to recognize the adoptees and their heirs as legitimate members of Pala? Because Pala is not a tribe. It is a place with a Spanish name derivative. Pa-La just like Temeku-La. Pala doesn't mean water in Luiseno but Pa or Pah does. Pala is shovel in mexipino as per those Mexican citizens living across from the casino. And if you really want to get in to history then try reading the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. You will find that there is a clause in there that prevents Mexican Indian Citizens from joining up with Indians in the US and that they are banned from receiving any benefits intended for the Indians of the US. Whoops! There goes Pala's Mexican corner. Won't be difficult to reclaim those lands intended for real Cupeño people. There is case law supporting such actions. It will happen and sooner than later.
@11:07 We the natives, are so tired of idiots trying to tell us our history or who we are. Go back to the socialist university hole you crawled out of spew your retoric elsewhere. You are not welcome or at liberty to define customs, traditions, rites or ceremonies of our people. If you are native, then you are a product of non native indoctrination and are a betrayed of your relations, you are worse than some non native trying to peghole us, you are a native pretending to be a native spewing non native fake news intentionally trying to dupe your own heritage. In either case stay out because you are an outsider.
Remijo Lugo wasn’t a Landless Indian. He was a member of the Morongo reservation. It was founded in 1876. Look at their roles back in 1902 and previous. He’s on them. Why should the Warner’s ranch evictees have to be sharing with his great great grandchildren like Nieto’s kids or Dion’s kids?
Did anyone notice that the Pala EC reported allocated revenue of $204 million in 2008, but now reports $108 million? That means the Casino take is down almost half from 2008.
That also means that the money invested in the Casino actually caused the revenue to go down. So the 2012 expansion that cost $120 million, and the 2018 expansion that cost $175 million, and the RV Park and Wine Cave that cost $5.7 million actually made things worse financially.
Revenue decreased $96 million over ten years. That is not a one time loss. That is just the difference in reported numbers from 2008-2018. Each of the years between 2009 and 2018 the Pala EC reported less than $204 million. Even if you report a gradual decrease of $10 million per year, it totals out to $545 million in reduced revenue over the last 10 years.
Now look at the Economic Development fund. The Pala EC reports budget items to show how the $5.5 million will be spent, but there is never any income from the investments. It is just a pit where they toss in money and nothing ever comes out. You can see the Raceway, Robert's Ranch, the Avocado grove, and I guess the Vineyard, but they are not investments because they never generate income. They are expenses. So you can add $180 million in losses to the $545 million lost revenue.
Now add in the $120 million for the Casino remodel, and $175 million for the expansion. That makes $1,020 million, or over a billion dollars for those of you that are math challenged.
And it's all easy to see. If anything this calculation is an understatement. The real numbers are worse. And we left out the lobbying money to promote online gaming in California. We left out the contributions to the FBI retirement fund, the payouts to the San Diego Sheriff's Dept to keep Smith supporters free to harm members. We left out the money paid to the San Diego District Attorney's Office, the parties for California Legislators, the bribes to BIA officials. We left out Pala Interactive. We have no way of knowing how many Pala employees collect paychecks without working, or how many members were enrolled that don't have the blood. We know there are a lot of real estate investments and properties that Smith and Nieto bought under fake names, and mansions in Maui and Ireland.
The list goes on and on. But I just put a price tag on how much it costs the members each year to keep their pig. And this also doesn't include casino comps, and private jets, and personal vehicles, and no limit American Express card, and cash from the casino.
No wonder why the Band is broke. It is impossible to feed a pig that is so greedy.
Come on R&R, the only numbers p.b.m.i. members can comprehend is the little numbers on their monthly per cap check, your screwing them up with all the zeros in your figures, they only understand numbers with 3 zeros not 7
Maybe so. Just saying that the Casino added 500 slots but managed to lose $94 million in revenue last year. It's a head scratcher. There would have been more money without the added slots.
Or the other explanation is that the report is phony. What a surprise! The great and wonderful Chairman decided the best way out of his current message is to blame Casino management and take it out of the member's pockets.
Seems familiar. Like the $16 million settlement Dickstein owed to Rumsey Rancheria that was paid with the money saved by disenrolling the Brittens.
Or Nieto and Dion themselves, pala is full of imposters who don't belong, this is what keeps pig boy in power, people who don't belong voting him in so they and their descendants can stay in. So when you true pala members see the likes of nietos, eagletons,and maxies running around with your money in their pockets, see them for what they are, squatters, just like ancestor Remijo Lugo
One thing for sure is that the wrong people keep dying in Pala.
This morning Clarence Niejo aka Luchie, passed away at home after a long hospital stay.
He will for sure be missed by anyone that took the time to know him.
Prayers go out to his Children and his Grand children and to all of his family and friends.
REST IN PEACE MY FRIEND.
Why can Robert Smith be the one to die or Theresa Nieto.
There would not be many to morn those two ass wipes.
Hope it won't be to much longer.
It is sad but the stupid light finally went on for one Pala member. Now she is ranting about all the things Robert Smith is doing to the tribe and its members. Yet she is the one who whenever Robert wanted would make motions that allowed Robert to steal even more money, hurt more people, take away individuals per capita, ban members from tribal business and evict persons for associating with persons who have been evicted. It goes on and on. Now though the shoe is on the other foot. There is an old saying, "Everyone loves the Vikings until it is you they are coming after." Well the Viking is now coming after you and it is too late. You were told and warned and you did not listen. The final stage has been set and all the lavatopinos and lugoshits couldn't line up fast enough to vote the way Robert wanted them to vote. The casino will be bankrupt before the year is over. You have been warned and you are responsible for letting it happen. Best start worrying about what you are going to do now because tomorrow it will be too late. You didn't want to believe the truth Sayers when the truth was being spoken and people willingly sacrificed everything in attempts to protect the tribe. Instead you laughed at them, you spit on them, you threatened them, you disenrolled them, you took their money away and you took away their heritage. They are where you are going to be before the year is out. Don't even think Christmas bonus. Think bankruptcy. It is coming. Will Robert accept individual bankruptcy on his loans to tribal members? I doubt it. He will take your car and evict you. How dare you try to steal from a thief. Those of us that have already visited the bottom are climbing up. It will feel good to see you as you are going down. When you hit that bottom and you are looking up at the rest of us you will find that we are not like you. We will be reaching down to pull you up because that is who we are. See you real soon.
I don’t understand why the people of pala don’t immediately get Robert out? Why doesn’t the EC ban together and get Robert out? He is destroying everything. Anyone that has been enrolled can stay enrolled as far as I am concerned just help us get Robert out. Let the brittians back in also. They will help get Robert out. Stop being so blind. Per cap has done nothing but go down. If we don’t do something we might not have a casino soon. Please for the sake of all of us GET ROBERT OUT.
They replace any high paying machine with low paying machines or just swap out the random generator. The place is empty daytime except for maybe the bus people. And they are too busy stealing the toilet paper and getting free drinks and waters to really gamble. . I feel sorry for the employees. Their tips are shit according to them. They keep firing employees with any seniority because their pay is higher. They replace them with part timers to pay them less and save on insurance. That chief is as bad as Donakd Trump. So dumb he is bankrupting a Casino which should be a cash cow, RIP Pala Casino.....you used to be a nice place.
What do you mean as as bad as Donald Trump? I guess creating new jobs and lowest unemployment in many years plus home values going up is a bad thing,you idiot
Donald Trump is still an asshole and only cares about his stupid wall which will never stop the illegals or the drugs from coming to the United States because all the illegals are pretty smart about digging tunnels even under walls.
Its a waste of tax payers money.
Trump should quit and go work and sell big mac's or at Burger King where can eat all the fast food he wants.
@11:08 you are the fucking idiot. Trump isn't the reason for low unemployment , it's a continuation of the Obama years.Home values are actually going down in many areas and sales are slowing. But keep believing the Orange OompahLoompahnTrump.
Trump and Robert Smith were corrupted by the same people. The gaming machine industry CEO's. They take mindless idiots and teach them every trick in the book including convincing them that they are intelligent and even greater than god. Trump hides behind the sovereignty or the US and Smith hides behind tribal sovereignty. Well sovereignties fall. It is called revolution and revolution is the right of every true sovereign nation - the People. Trump and Smith will eventually see the inside of prison cells or even better they will get a Mussolini send off which is what they really deserve. So to use this site to argue about the benefits or misdeeds of Trump is below stupid. Trump is a lump of shit and Smith is a lump of shit and you want to see if you can taste test the better parts of piles of shit. Really??? Trump is coming for the Indians and you better believe it. Smith is ahead of Trump. He is already destroying his tribe and hurting anyone that gets in his way. They will both leave in their jets and try to hide but we will find them and we will search out their descendants and put on them what they have put on us. It will be over soon. Yes it will. Patience. Just a little more patience. They both know it is coming and they will bloat up like the fat pigs that they are but they have nothing left.
Let's leave politics out of this blog, only talk about Pala and its corrupt EC. Got to get rid of them. Stop trying to sidetrack people.
Let Trump take a Dump on Smiths head.
Trump is still an ASSHOLE and Smiths face is his toilet paper.
I guess that's what they mean when they say "lets have some face time".
@ 12:07
Politics is why we are in this Hell Hole to begin with.
And now on the lighter side, Pala Interactive CEO Jim Ryan says they have 90 days to comply with the Interstate Wire Transfer Act. The regulations bar interstate payments for online gaming. It is hard not to laugh. Chairman Porky sunk a $100 million into this venture for the software. Another $70 million in start up costs. The another $35 million for operating costs. And not a cent went to members. Instead they got a paycut.
The Pala EC really is expert at mismanagement.
So shifting the cost of his millions and millions mistake onto the members by making them pay for the medical insurance.
now that we have documents and evidence of misappropriating tribal funds.we can bring it to the interior department and but we need 500 votes to impeach and to throw the law into the picture finally.can we get 500 votes .he always out votes everyone .we need the people of pala to now standup and do this thing right.we can all write our signatures for the interior department to see that there is over 3/4 of our people are reporting this criminal to be removed officially by the feds due to our tribe reporting the crimes that have been committed and by whom so we better have all the evidence also to back up these claims we need real hard evidence before we can do anything. the NCAI they already know about how bad this one is...so he is known already thru out Indian tribes. all because he has a few hundred supporters..will they support him again we need 500 plus votes to remove this corrupt council whom is also the EC.who made that happen.when they corruptly formed the EC which should be made up of other tribal members not the councilman already holding a seat on the council.what stupidity!
these councilman dont even hold a degree in business nor have the education to run a multi million dollar business .let alone being paid as if they all have a phd in business.take away those huge salaries first thing we should've done.no more pay for fucking up our tribal business.all should be in jail for missappropriating tribal funds that are federal monies if they didn't know..its a felony to take even $200 from any of the accounts the tribe has.the end result is termination of our tribe.no more PALA BAND of Mission Indians
Lets get it started and do whats right for the Tribe and not what Smith and Nieto want. They are only out for their own agenda and the Members of PBMI don't matter one little bit to the current EC.
All they are good for is treating the the Members like dirt and stealing money that does not belong to them.
If 500 members can't see this then they will get what they deserve.
How will they handle waiting for that big yellow truck every month to get free government food to survive month to month.
The suicide rate will increase to its highest level ever
all because they are to scared to stand up to a little
corrupt son of a bitch aka Robert Smith.
With all the post that say Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto are stealing the Bands money what will it take to have a complaint against them through the Federal Government to have arrested?
Won't an Audit have to be done first to see if all the facts are true and then file a complaint with the FEDS.
Or how does that work with an Indian Reservation?
I know for a fact that there was a complaint filed with the FBI and the IRS, who has not acted on it as of yet.
The FBI has had many people call them and complain about there no acting on the complaints and all they ever say is that it's an on going investigation and that they can not give any information to the people even the ones that signed on the complaints.
There was a new complaint filed about 20 days ago and it was backed up with a lot of verified evidence concerning
the spending by Smith and others including but not limited to copies of checks through Well Fargo bank and the Corner Stone Bank in Carlsbad.
Also a copy of the signature cards that were on file at these banks.
We are just waiting for an answer to see if there will be
a yes or no from the Grand Jury.
It should't be very much longer.
Just keep praying that it will be enough to get the ball rolling in our favor.
So there will be a copy of the $100,000 check written to Robert by the casino. Wonder if he paid the taxes on it?
Look people, you all need to stop thinking the F.B.I. Will do anything concerning pala & pigman. Do any of you realize how much money Robert / pigman has funneled into the F.B.I. retirement fund? A large percentage of money that should be on your monthly checks goes the feds retirement fund, so why would agents who are being set up for life after they retire do anything to cut of a source of money that will have them living comfortable at your expense? The answer is simple, they won't!
At 8:26 AM according to someone close to the check writer
he did not pay any taxes on that check.
It was considered a bonus pay out and Smith didn't want taxes withheld and stated that he would take care of it when he files his taxes.
He also claims big losses under the Pala Tub business.
He always uses the laundry mat as a write off when he files his taxes.
At least that's what his brother Andrew says.
I wonder why some of the Members that have lost a loved one that was enrolled doesn't question why they never received the life insurance payout from the Tribe after there loved one passes away.
Some that have died didn't owe the Tribe and still no life insurance money from the Tribe.
Do you think that Robert Smith or one of his followers are listed as the the one who gets the money in case that member dies.
I THINK SO.
You have to sign up for the life insurance and name an heir, it is not an automatic thing. The life insurance ws set up to cover funeral/death expenses and needs to be opted in by the member. Orthwise, they get nothing.
Who sets the pay scale for the EC members, and who approves it.
And also who sets the pay scale for Tribal employees
ans who approves it.
Why are Tribal employees started out at such o such a high pay scale for their jobs.
In a normal working field employees are started out with the with the min. wage and then receive pay raises as they progress in that field.
This is an area that should be brought up and let the people have a say in the pay scale of Tribal employees.
Most of the jobs through the Tribe start out at between 12 to 18 dollars per hour and they earn pay raises on top of that.
That's a lot to pay someone to just sit around and do nothing all day but hide and sleep.
When are you people going to wake the hell up and see what Robert Smith is doing to you and your Reservation.
Can't you see what he is doing by his track record.
He kicks people out of their homes, destroys families,
protects criminals, steals your money, kills your relatives, blames everyone for the way people are treated except himself, rigs the elections to keep him and Nieto on the EC.
Frames innocent people for crimes that he and his brother commit.
I just don't understand why no one will stand up to this
son of a bitch.
Without the title of Chairman attached to his name he is nothing, nada, zero,00000000000.
so why are you people so affraid of this no good for nothing little fat German Bastard.
Get him out of the EC and out of Pala all together
he does not belong and he knows it that why he won't let
the elections be run on an even playing field.
He is afraid that he and his brother Andrew and their kids will be kicked out of Pala for good.
The only bad thing right now on the Pala Reservation
that's destroying all the customs and traditions of the Band is Robert H. Smith and Theresa J. Nieto.
They are totally destroying every thing that that our Ancestors built for our people.
Get him and Nieto out for the good of our people before all we have left are memories of what could have been.
Today i attended a funeral for Mr. Diaz and while there i could not stop from thinking about the death of Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto and why the wrong people are dying before them.
I also imagined how happy Pala would be if either of them were to die for whatever reason.
That may sound a little harsh but it got me through the service and something to look forward to.
I heard that Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto have stated that by Howard Diaz marring Bonny before his death doesn't make any difference in the home where bonny lives.
They said that if they want this home that they will take it and a piece of paper will not stop them.
I don't think that the EC will do anything to hurt
Bonny.
She is a well respected lady who has never had a bad thing to say about anyone.
I do not believe that there is one single person living in Pala that would vote against Bonny Diaz living in that home that her and Howie lived in for so many years.
I also can't believe that this kind of talk has been started already with Howie just being laid to rest 3 days ago.
Please show a little respect for this family and let
them have some peace while mending the loss of their loved one. Thank you.
I think people are upset simply because how many homes are still sitting empty that should have been torn down (the meth labs), the occupants passed away over a year ago and is STILL filled with their personal belongings....on and on....what the hell is wrong with this tribe. They take away the home from 2 elders, 1 seriously ill who did not have the capacity to make their own decisions. We need to rethink our housing department and policies because obviously it only applies to select people and families.
Very true 8:45 pm i wonder why Theresa Nieto's dad still gets to live in house after his wife passed away almost 3 years ago.
Double standards indeed.
The tribal employees still do word for him also.
So Bonnie Diaz should be able to live there as long as she wants to.
And if the EC says any different then the people should speak up and protect her home.
She was with Howard for almost 50 years and that should mean something.
The home in question was done through Amia and should not be included in the Pala housing project.
When the leases were signed by the people moving in the lease agreement states that if a spouse of the head of household passes then the remaining spouse can live in the home as long as the remaining spouse did not remarry
and have a new spouse move in.
That's what the original leases state.
So leave these people alone and move on to more important issues like the financial status of the Band.
You're absolutely right, the original AMIHA contracts still stand. Legally only the homeowner can change the contract. However, AMIHA has to abide by each Tribe's ordinances as to how remaining non Tribal spouses are or are not allowed to remain in the home. So in other words, it was PALA's ordinances that allowed the spouses to remain, not AMIHA.
Can Robert Smith change the the original AMIHA contracts
or the Tribes original ordinance to suit his agenda?
Or does it stand as binding on these original AMIHA
homes.
No the original contracts are binding unless THE HOMEOWNER signs an agreement to change it, however AMIHA must comply with the Tribe's ordinances. Each Tribe's different but I would assume legally the original ordinances would apply as "grandfathered" in as it was in place at the time of the original contract signed. However the newer homes do not have this protection unless the ordinance was the old one still in place. Same thing applies as the AMIHA contracts, even if it's through the Tribe, the original contract is binding. The ONLY way the original contracts can be broken is if the HOMEOWNER, OR PERSON BUYING THE HOME changes it with a new contract.
Way back when he tried to change the contracts it was good no one fell for it. When Andrew Moro tried to have people sign a "new" contract to build onto their original AMIHA homes there could be a plausible argument he did not fully disclose the circumstances which would make those "new" contracts null and void, the original contracts still binding. No matter if it's an AMIHA or new home the original contracts are still binding.
Andrew Moro is nothing but an ass kissing ball licking punk with a questionable back ground about hurting people
that worked under him.
The most dangerous part about Andrew Moro is that he and Robert Smith are closely related, remember who
Domingo Moro was.
Two peas in a pot that way over cooked.
Remember how hard Robert pushed for the Tribe to hire Andrew Moro in the beginning with all the praise and how Andrew Moro was a main reason that Walmart was a big success. it was a bullshit from the get go.
Andrew is as big a liar as his cousin Robert.
The family that corrupts together stays together.
You need to understand family facts. Domingo Moro the citizen Indian is Robert's grandfather. Andrew Moro was his brother (who did NOT give up his rights) was Andrew Moro's grandfather. Yes Robert and Andrew are DISTANT cousins. What Andrew did was a disgrace, his family is not happy with him. He was a product of not being raised on the reservation and no clue as to customs and traditions. Pala was duped and made some serious mistakes re-electing Robert. I understand your frustrations but you really need to get your facts right as to whom each family is descended from.
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