Thanks to the commenter who provided the news link.
cbs8.com Death under investigation at Pala Reservation
Posted: Apr 25, 2016 6:46 AM PDT
Updated: Apr 25, 2016 12:18 PM PDT
SAN DIEGO (CNS) - A shooting at the Pala Indian Reservation in the North County left a 56-year-old man dead, authorities said Monday.
San Diego County Sheriff's deputies from the Valley Center substation were called to the 11900 block of Ortega Road in a residential area of the reservation shortly after midnight, Sheriff Homicide Sgt. Todd Norton said.
The victim was found shot numerous times as he sat in a vehicle, according to Norton. Paramedics responded and attempted to save the man's life, but he died at the scene, Norton said.
The San Diego County Medical Examiner's Office was called to the scene and will release the man's name after his family is notified. No suspect
information was released.
Detectives asked anyone with information about the shooting to call the Homicide Detail at (858) 974-2321 or after hours at (858) 565-5200. Tipsters can remain anonymous and be eligible for up to a $1,000 reward for information leading to an arrest by calling Crime Stoppers at (888) 580-8477.
cbs8.com Death under investigation at Pala Reservation
151 comments:
This is a warning of the influence of corrupt and criminal leadership. People are just following the example of their leaders. The violence will most likely escalate because people are going to arm themselves for defense and when both sides are armed there is bound to be conflict.
There is a definite pattern. First Robert Smith rigged elections so he could get his people on the EC, then he duped the General Council into giving the EC complete control over the finances, then the Pala EC took control of the Casino and embezzled hundreds of millions, they hired lawyers with the Band's money that advised them on how to hurt members and get away with it, they got challenged by Brittain descendants and disenrolled the opposition, they amended ordinances to give themselves ever more power, they enrolled other criminals to support them, evict anyone they don't like, tried to mess with the land assignments, they hired thugs to beat people, run drugs and weapons, and now 2 murders in two months.
This indicates an escalating trend towards violence and I hope everyone in Pala is doing what they need to do to protect themselves. I wish they would join forces and remove the EC from office before more people get killed, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen. What will it take to wake people up and get them motivated to change things for the better?
Go to the next Tribal Meeting and don't bother to check you guns at the door,you might need them to get your motion passed.
RandR
You sound so stupid. How does the tribes political position concerNing enrollment have anything to do with this murder and the murder of Bradley. Neither one of them does, you are cold-hearted and very inconsiderate, probbably never lived in Pala until the Casino was built, to use your argument, a political opinion at that, to try and create a storyline to make yourself and your argument work, whenot their is no connection. You are dumb. Not only are you trying to make yourself sound good, but you are blaming thus tribal community as the perletrators of murder, rather than the victims. I can tell you this, these two murders have nothing to do with enrollment, these two murders are connected to Mexican gangs that exist outside of this community and to drugs. Bradley died because he fuck ed up somewhere, the same dipshit who brought outsider Mexican gangs issues to the rez, he got executed (probbably be a Mexican gang), and now tribal peogle are caught in the crossfire because some idiot does not know what, who, or when, but assumes that tribal people are to blame, sounds like your argument. Stop bullshitting and get concerned that the whole community is being targeted by outsiders and it has nothing to do with enrollment politics, get a life.
Obviously someone should forward that comment to the police. Interesting.
@8:18 PM
I already did so.
Sounds like 7:45 PM knows a lot about this gang shit. Better watch there mouth or maybe the Mexican Gang will be paying them a visit.
So it was sent to the Cop in charge of the investigation.
And this has more to do with disenrollment than you think.
Dumb.
@8:52 pm
You guys really are pathetic. I give my opinion on what criminal activity is happening on this rez and all you guys do is try to link it back to your sorry selves and your disenrollment bullshit. Wake the fuck up, these people were killed by outsiders, tribal members and community members have nothing to do with these murders, unless they are fuck ingredients involved with these bullshit outsiders. This is not about disenrollment, it would not have mattered if you were disenrolled or if you were still enrolled these murders would have happened regardless. Wake up and stop making everything about you and your money. If u out cared, you would care about the community and the shit that is going to keep happening. Look at your own families and see what kind of outsiders are ok nvolved in your families.
Well lets see how the EC handles this issue.
They will probably not do a fucken thing about it.
@11:40pm....so why was the Chiefs daughter driving around with machine guns and silencers? Did the Mexican gangs make her do it?
How can you say these murders have nothing to do with the disenrollments when one of the murders was a dissenrolled member?
You totally misunderstood what I was saying and focused on disenrollment. The point is that the criminal activities in Pala start at the top and flow downward to all the resident. If the leaders don't abide by the law, you can expect their followers to violate the law also.
So you want to blame outsiders. If Pala was a tight community of law abiding citizens it would be difficult for outsiders to come in and violate the law without plenty of people working to stop them.
The victims in this case are dead. Now the reservation is gripped in vise of corruption, crime is rampant, and you want to blame everyone else. Who's stupid now? Are people coming forward, starting neighborhood watch, raising the issue with tribal leadership, taking Pala security to task for their failure to protect them?
I am not blaming disenrollment. I am saying that people need to step up to save their community. If the Pala EC sits on the hands and lets it happen they should be removed from office.
Stop blaming and start working to improve things. I know who to blame. It's the Chairman and his henchmen. Get rid of him and watch how things change. It really isn't that difficult to see that Robert Smith is doing nothing to stop the criminal activity. He profits off it.
If you look at the trouble guns and murders happening in the village all the way back to Blackowl it's not outsiders doing this.
You are right @8:30 AM, and Robert was Chairman then too. Look what I found and notice the names involved. http://myvalleynews.com/local/man-sentenced-to-15-years-for-beating-death-of-teen-on-pala-indian-reservation/
Yup Maxcy and Molina are the names that pop up in the blackowl incident. I'm just surprised I thought Howard was a respectable guy until he started up with Robert. All it took was some money and his soul changed. Is that what we call a sell out? I guess to some people,weak people, money is more important than anything else.
The Lugo's in the council should just re-enroll and make disenrollments illegal because it can be used against them in the future. Who knows who will be in power in 5,10,20 years from now. They were dumb for opening up the idea of disenrollment to the people when they come from Cahuilla and who ever is in power can use that against them. Once a member always a member no disenrollments now or ever!
I agree. NO DISENROLLMENTS. NOW OR EVER
I guess you either have to be a killer or related to a killer to get on the EC.
Just like Roberts Grandfather, Henry Smith SR. stabbed a man and killed him, and no one was ever charged.
Then the mag light killers at the campground, no one was ever charged,
and everyone knows who did it. There were eye witnesses that have given there info to law enforcement. And yet no one has been charged.
I wonder how Bonnie Dumanis sleeps at night.
Lugos account for 200 votes in Pala, and that number is going up. 3 of the 5 executive committee are Lugos. They can elect whoever they want.They Run Pala.
The next Chairman will be a Lugo, so Smith beware. But they shouldn't be enrolled in Pala, which explains their shitty attitude.nAnd they have the majority votes, 3 out of 5, on the enrollment committee, so they can disenroll whoever they want. Enjoy the future, it belongs to the Lugos. I hear Howard Maxcy is looking into the Yaqui Lavatos and Guachinos.
Na. There are more coming. We are going to use this opportunity to straighten out the rolls.
Straighten out the rolls, to really straighten out the rolls would be very interesting to see and would mean the Lugo's would be out and as long as they have a majority in the EC it will not happen. Not sure about the Lavato's I have heard some talk here and there about them possible being on the chopping block but the Gauchinos is a lot more likely from what I've heard over the last 2 years. Even from family members of that family that said "I know Robert will disenroll us". My thing is if this family believes then why don't they stand up now while they can and are still part of the tribe? I know it's hard and seems like a losing battle but it's better now then after. What you might lose your percap well you gonna definetly lose it if your disenrolled. There are other families that will back the Gauchinos up and you know who they are. I say now is the time. Sooner is better. Strike first.
God bless all the lost souls
WRONG. LISTEN UP PEOPLE...
THE LUGOS ON THE EC CANNOT PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM A DISENROLLMENT. According to AnnaLee, The EC did NOT let AnnaLee Trujillo vote in the Margarita Brittain disenrollment because it was her family and they called it a "Conflict of Interest". Ask her. She said she was removed from the vote!
So... Wouldn't the same rule would apply??!!!. Since the Lugos are up for their turn for a Disenrollment, then the Lugos on the EC must be treated like AnnaLee Trujillo, and they must leave the room for the vote. They cannot be present for the vote!! It would come down to Sheila and T. Villa and Robert Smith and Robert has said in private that the Lugos do NOT belong on the rolls....!
Soooo many of the Lugos have fucked up attitudes, because they know they don't belong there. Instead of shutting up and being thankful for being allowed in, they run around with bad attitudes. PERCAP would go up about $4000 without the Lugos. Quick, does anyone have paperwork to give to the EC for a decision??? Someone submit the proof anonymously to Theresa Villa and let's get started.
Go say it to his face
Fuck your family and fuck your time of grief. Young Lugos like to talk shit when others hurt, so fuck the younger generation of Lugos. Glad it hurts and hopefully more pain comes that way. Disenroll them already
Go back to sleep
You're a flea, talking all that shit anonymously. You should go let your feelings be known, but you won't, you're scared of us
A flea with a long memory. A flea that will remind you of what she has seen over the years. Lugos under 50 have bad attitudes, and many should not be enrolled in Pala. Eventually the Lugos will pay the piper. Ann Trujillo wasn't allowed to vote for the Margarita disenrollment, so Nieto, Perez and Maxcy can't vote for the Lugo disenrollment. Call me a flea Fat Daddy, call me scared, but I'm spitting truth according to History you ignorant bitch
Lol
I'm not even talking about disenrollment but since you brought it up, it don't have shit to do with anything but your pockets.Stay on topic Flea
@7:35 Your simply talking the truth.
Typically enrollment committees/tribal council are made up of 5 people. If three are subject to conflict of interest then the 2 remaining members do not constitute a quorum. Hopefully council proxy's don't have "conflict of interest"
Y'all sound like some money hungry bitches.
Ha, it is only about the money for those who don't help because they are scared to lose theirs. We do not want any disenrollments, we just want everyone to understand and know the truth about our family and that we belong, we want everyone to stop talking smack and we want the community to thrive and to help the ones who have become lethargic and or drugged out and to make Pala the best Reservation where the members all sort of get along and the youth have so many promising possibilities to be great citizens of Pala and America. We all deserve it and the future of Native Americans need it. Some people only talk about other families because ours is being treated differently, which is not right and everyone knows it. May Bruce Molina rest in peace.
Can't argue with that. 👍
don't be so childish ! How dumb you try to play families against each other. Anyone who sides with you are ignorant.you speak for your sad self.
@ April 25, @7:45PM
Okay then did Mexican Gang Bangers Shove the Mag Light down a mans throat at the Camp Ground ?
Was it a Mexican Gang that hit and killed a man in the pond at the old camp ground?
Is it a Mexican Gang that is responsible for the little child that died at the hands of ? in his house?
Hell no, these are crimes that are still unsolved that happened in the presents of Robert Smith.
He and his brother were the ones fighting with the man at the camp ground with the mag light.
Robert was the one riding his seado in the pond at the old camp ground when he struck the man and killed him.
It was Robert Smith's house where that little baby died that they claimed she fell off the couch and hit her head, or was that also
related to the Mexican Gangs?
BULLSHI, BULLSHIT, AND MORE BULLSHIT.
It was there drug dealers and boyfriends because a rumour that they were talking to the cops. Already called them on these cold case murders done on the rez. Not Robert.
I was talking to RandR who keeps trying to connect Bradley's and Bruce's murder to disenrollment, this post was not about Robert and Andrew...lol
@ 7:54 PM
IT'S ALL ONE BIG CIRCLE WITH NO BEGINNING AND NO ENDING.
If a family really thinks they are next on Robert's Chopping Block, then you need to do something now before it is too late, get a petition going to have The Tribe Audited, while you are still members you have rights that the Brittains lost, and we were told over and over again by Robert that we would not be disenrolled, so we did not make any moves like a petition, had we known that it could really happen, we would have fought from within. The government listens to members before disenrollees, because leaders cut down disenrollees as being trouble makers and violent, but they can't say that about members. Get your paperwork together and fight now before it is too late.
At the casino right now a brand-new black Denali with the PBM 1 license plate really does the tribe need to spend that kind of money do they have to get a Denali they could just get a basic SUV and why is it at the casino parking in front what's Robert doing there he's tribal chairman not casino executive? Come on people it's so obvious he's robbing us blind living large spending our money it's the tribes money. And forget about the money even if there was no money look what he's doing to the people how he punishes them it doesn't give them any civil rights just does what he wants and walks all over them when they don't do what he wants or vote his way. The pot is almost boiling over it's going to be either a government agency or the people his oppressive,hateful,theiving regime is coming to an end. Let's see if anybody stand by his side when he falls and everything comes out in the open?
The General Membership doesn't really have a say in what kind of vehicles that Smith and Nieto buy.
All Smith does is tells Nieto to right a check to the dealer and that's it.
That new black vehicle was probably over $75,000.00.
I wonder what he traded in on this one and will it show on the Tribes books, I doubt it.
Yet another reason for an AUDIT.
Nieto's book keeping amounts to "KEEP ROBERT AND HER OUT OF JAIL" and fuck the General Membership.
Maybe these Murders that are happening on the Reservation will link back to Smith some how.
He doesn't do any thing about them because it takes the heat away from his Daughters crimes.
Everyone is focused on the Murders and that relieves the pressure of his Daughters drug use and weapons charges.
It seems with all the Camera's that he had installed through out the Village, they should be able to ID the suspects almost instantly.
Unless he uses the tapes for his own latter against the suspects.
Like ok guys look here I have you on tape shooting so and so.
Know I want you to do the same to so and so over there or I will turn these tapes over to the Investigators.
So then know he even has control over the Gang bangers that are coming on the Reservation and committing these acts on our Tribal Members and he LOVES CONTROL.
First of all how the fuck can u say he died cause he fucked up some where? How the fuck do you know? The only fucken people that know what the fuck happen to him is ANTHONY BOLES AND WHO EVER THE FUCK WAS AT HIS FUCKN HOUSE! So do me a fuckn favor and keep Bradley name out your fuckn mouth! Get your facts right before you start talking your fuckn shit! For the rest of these mother fuckers that want to continue to talk shit about him fuck off and get your fuckn story right! I'm tired of all this shot talking that's going on! Trust me justice will be served for both of them!
Are you all that stupid for real? The first murder was bradley all signs point back to tribal members involved .tyann got off i dont know how but she will pay . if she wasnt guilty then why was she freaking out while she was in jail ? Screaming over and over im sorry im sorry i just paniced ! Wtf GUILTY!! And yes it was confired by several people she was housed with .and anthony really nothing even needs to be said but GUILTY. ! But the GANG LEADER is the one and only CORY ALLEN !! mark my words its only at matter of time before justice is served . Then theres the murder of bruce bradleys friend . who was with bruce seconds before he was killed ? Dumb THE GANG LEADER CORY ALLEN . but did he stick around and talk to the cops ? Hell no he had just enough time time gather his murder weapon and bounce out before the sheriff got there .what a good cousin he was to poor bruce . first he shoots him then leaves him to flop around fighting for his life . fucken asshole. Why avoid the cops ? Something to hide hell yes!! Why not come forward and help catch the murderer of his cousin and his good friend bradley ? It dont take a expert investigator to figure this shit out hes guilty. But wait he trys to throw his crimes off on the trujillo family what a joke bruce was bradleys friend was he not ? Yes he was it wasnt the trujillos it was allen.
The molina family needs to check their circle of family member because there is a murderer right in from of them CORY JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED FOR SURE!!
How come the police are figuring this stuff out? Are they not privy to certain info? I know they must rely on facts and evidence, but they better catch him before he strikes again? Is this the same guy that was busted with Beano? If so they should have never let him out and whoever bailed him out is just as responsible for these murders as he is, and seriously these are murders, murders, they are not just some little (I hit you or even beat you up) they are murders, someone's life was taken away from them, ended, and all of their loved ones have been suffering their loss, while whoever pulled the trigger is walking around living and still able to pull another trigger.
@ 3:55 AM
If you think that you are so fucking smart and have knowledge of these murders, why aren't you coming forward and helping with the Investigation?
I'll tell you why, it's because you don't know what the fuck you are talking about if you had to ask if it was the same guy that was busted with Beano Smith.
Go home and get some sleep, and then wake up and commit your sorry ass into a rehab before you lose the rest of your mind.
Maybe you are the guilty one just trying to pass the buck by blaming someone else. And don't forget that your IP address shows up on the posting site for your comments.
This site is going to get blamed for the crap going on in the village. Then everyone here in Pala will have a scapegoat and be able to walk away with nothing good getting done.
We just received our AGENDA for the next Meeting, if that's what you want to call it.
Why aren't the subjects of these killings important enough to be place on the agenda for input from the General Membership?
Why has there not been a special meeting called?.
Why has there not been a warning letter sent out by Robert concerning the safety of the Members?
Why is nothing being done ?
These are some serious crimes that are happening here and Robert seems to cool calm and collected about it all.
IS HE THE GUILTY ONE THAT CALLING THE SHOTS ON WHO IS NEXT?
@ 1:51 PM, The poster at 3:55 AM is not the same as 10:11AM
@ 2:22 PM
If the Pala EC is not connected in someway to these crimes, why are
Tribal Members not able to bring these crimes up in a meeting for a
discussion and input from the Members.
Why does Robert try to cover up these crimes.
I think that the Investigator should focus on the EC and at least explore the possibility of Smith involvement.
It would either clear him or involve him.
He says that it's gang people from Escondido, but how does he know this for sure. He is hiding something somewhere.
Were the shots heard? Was there a silencer involved?
Who said I wasn't helping with the investigation ? Im not a money hungry greedy jerk. And I am most defiantly not a follower of our corupt EC. I agree with the others on this blog Mr Chairman needs to be investigated as well . Can anyone answer a question for me does Robert usually handle housing issues on his personal time ? Like does he make house calls to welcome a new housing renter by meeting with him in his car behind their house ? Can anyone answer that for me ? Or does Mr.Chairman hang out at known drug users house on his personal time just to hang out ? Huh either he's doing dope or he's paying these peps to murder people or ?? I wonder??
Even if you had an 8x10 glossy of Robert Making a Drug deal or handing a large amount of cash to someone sitting in his car, he would lie his way out of it and nothing would be done.
He says that he has the FBI and the top Cop of San Diego County Bonnie Dumanis in his rear pocket so I guess there is only one way to get rid of the unwanted trash on the Pala EC.
Why would Robert be blaming Cory Allen for these Murders?
Could it be because Cory JR. wouldn't take the hole rap for Roberts Daughter. So now he is trying to get even by putting this on Cory SR.
What do you think?.
Thought it was drey agular or something like that. Another logo anyway.
Robert says that the FBI only hires gays and people that can't Investigate shit.
You guys sound paranoid. These killings were perpetrated by outsiders. It is time to come together and try to figure out how to stop outsiders from targetting community members.
That's easy 12:36, get rid of the EC members and put people in there that care about all members and the safety of everyone living within our Community. Other wise this issues will continue to get worse.
Blaming the EC does not do anything. It is not there fault that two people were murdered.
@12:36.. If it was outsiders there would probably be arrests by now. Sounds like someone in the investigation is ignoring any tribal involvement. I wonder why?..lol.
Then why hasn't Robert turned over the tapes from the cameras in that area. Maybe it shows him being involved some how.
Or he is trying to figure out how to use them for his own personal gain. Just like he always does.
His whole attitude is fuck justice as long as he gets what he wants and doesn't care who gets hurt or blamed for it.
I hate that fat limp walking diabetes one foot in the grave fuc! For what he has done to the people and for his greed along with nieto I really hope they get what they both deserve very soon!!!!!!!!!! He's just a big baby huey that punishes people that talk bad about him or don't do what he wants..wah wah wah cry me a river you diabetic cry baby and fake as@ church lady nieto!! The shame you both have brought on your family (shakes head) disgraceful.
Turned over what tapes from where? There are no tribal cameras by the crime scene just private cameras, and those are being looked at, quit being so paranoid.
@ 6:37 PM
Go FUCK YOURSELF.
Oh, so now they are called TRIBAL CAMERAS.
What else would they be called, I don't know what cameras you are talking about. I am assuming since you think Robert Smith has cameras watching everybody that they would be funded and authorized by the tribe. But, I don't see any cameras anywhere, all I see are cameras on people's houses. Again, you guys are paranoid. Fuck you too...lol
what about the cameras that are pointed at Kings store?
Take a cue from the posters here, sit back, relax, let Robert Smith and the rest of the EC steal billions from you. Quit being so paranoid. After all, your per cap keeps going down down down even after the disenrollments, various investments, online gambling, and who knows what else. Just chillax everyone. Don't be such conspiratards. Just let the money flow out, the body count rise, and don't make a fuss. Robert's got your back...or will stab you in the back...take your pick. You can be a sycophant and come on here and kiss his ass if it makes you feel safer but it doesn't make you any more safe.
From the church, those are probbably the church cameras. Rob does not control the church has too, damn are you guys that paranoid. This crime happened behind the store.
Ok, but there are cameras at the park intersection with Pala mission rd. and Pala Temecula rd. and by the admin.so anyone entering or leaving at that time of night should be on camera. that's all I am talking about.
Who cares? Someone was killed and something has to be done. I don't believe this has anything to do with EC. We need to Belize pechNga and have security when entering the reservation. Would really cut down a lot of this murder shit. Pala is getting out of hand and a dangerous place to live.
The only problem with that is Pala Temecula is a state Hwy and we can not cut it off to the public. And 76 for sure can not be cut off.
I think that everyone should attend the Community meeting tomorrow night and see if there are other options.
The meeting is at 6pm at the Pala Admin building.
Maybe Pala should contract with the Sheriffs dept. again.
Like we used be until Robert decided that Pala Security could handle everything, which they can't. There are not supposed to stop anyone on public highways, which they do all of the time.
That is a law that was enacted by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Why can't security stop people on public roads?
because of a Supreme Court Ruling that says that Tribal Security/Police do not have the same police power to stop non Indian Drivers on public Roadways.
They only have the authority to stop Indians on Reservation Land and not on public roadways.
They can not search your vehicle or impound vehicles on public highways either.
You can look it up for your self by googling -powers of Tribal Security/ Police.
Tribes have the authority to police non-members within the boundaries of the reservation because of the US Supreme Court case Montana v. United States (1981), which states the following:
"A tribe may regulate, through taxation, licensing, or other means, the activities of nonmembers who enter consensual relationships with the tribe or its members, through commercial dealing, contracts, leases, or other arrangements. A tribe may also retain inherent power to exercise civil authority over the conduct of non-Indians on fee lands within its reservation when that conduct threatens or has some direct effect on the political integrity, the economic security, or the health or welfare of the tribe."
Which means that tribal security/tribal police can pull over, search, fine, and detainee non-members as soon as they enter the reservation boundaries.
Just heard they picked up Cory Allen . And the day before they picked up his old lady interigated her for 5 or 6 hours .bet she spilled the beans on Cory . But her gross as is still hanging around like yesterday's trash lol . Wow maybe now she can eat something and shower her as a up lol
If these murders where put together by outsiders why would they both have taken place on the rez in or on tribal members houses or property? Think about it . This was someone within the tribe that committed these murders tribal members killing tribal members wtf. Don't be blind people look at the big picture here both Bradley and Bruce must have known something about a certain someone and that certain someone didn't want it to get out . So you fill in the rest . Oh and let's not forget the bs with chairman's bean dip and little Cory Allen Jr . Lol you are all aware that beano didn't get in trouble for her drugs and gun spree right and neither did Nona Scott's daughter and to top that off neither did Cory Jr . Wtf ?? He's in a f%_Ken rehab haha .if it was anyone else that got arrested on those charges and being a second striker they would do life . Shoot for the fact of having a silencer alone is a lot of time . But he had a silencer a bulletproof vest semi automatic weapons all loaded meth herion pills . That's hard core prison time for anyone who isn't connected to fatass robert smith . All this shit that's happening in Pala leads right back to Robert you are stupid people if you don't see that . His daughter gets busted with cory Allens son rob makes a deal with big Cory to help his kid if he takes out Bradley because Bradley had a little secret about the where abouts of a certain someone that used to ride around on a bike and was Andrews little helper.and went missing .Bradley had this hanging over Roberts head cause he paid him . Rob got all sketchy thought Bradley WAs gonna rat his lumpy ass out to the feds so he has him taken out . And Bruce probably figured it out so he had to go to . How sick . And in exchange little Cory gets freedom to a rehab what a fucken joke just another example of the kind of people that are the leaders in Pala haha there never was no outsiders in on this . Both Bradley and Bruce family have chairman to thank for killing there loved ones . That man is true evil and his empire is about to fall to hell . Man you got to admit it sounds like the perfect crime to save his fatass daughter from being locked up but he just didn't realize who the hell he was really up against . So sad for him . And the added bonus is cory Allens methe'd out tweaker lady she probably sang like a bird .
If these murders where put together by outsiders why would they both have taken place on the rez in or on tribal members houses or property? Think about it . This was someone within the tribe that committed these murders tribal members killing tribal members wtf. Don't be blind people look at the big picture here both Bradley and Bruce must have known something about a certain someone and that certain someone didn't want it to get out . So you fill in the rest . Oh and let's not forget the bs with chairman's bean dip and little Cory Allen Jr . Lol you are all aware that beano didn't get in trouble for her drugs and gun spree right and neither did Nona Scott's daughter and to top that off neither did Cory Jr . Wtf ?? He's in a f%_Ken rehab haha .if it was anyone else that got arrested on those charges and being a second striker they would do life . Shoot for the fact of having a silencer alone is a lot of time . But he had a silencer a bulletproof vest semi automatic weapons all loaded meth herion pills . That's hard core prison time for anyone who isn't connected to fatass robert smith . All this shit that's happening in Pala leads right back to Robert you are stupid people if you don't see that . His daughter gets busted with cory Allens son rob makes a deal with big Cory to help his kid if he takes out Bradley because Bradley had a little secret about the where abouts of a certain someone that used to ride around on a bike and was Andrews little helper.and went missing .Bradley had this hanging over Roberts head cause he paid him . Rob got all sketchy thought Bradley WAs gonna rat his lumpy ass out to the feds so he has him taken out . And Bruce probably figured it out so he had to go to . How sick . And in exchange little Cory gets freedom to a rehab what a fucken joke just another example of the kind of people that are the leaders in Pala haha there never was no outsiders in on this . Both Bradley and Bruce family have chairman to thank for killing there loved ones . That man is true evil and his empire is about to fall to hell . Man you got to admit it sounds like the perfect crime to save his fatass daughter from being locked up but he just didn't realize who the hell he was really up against . So sad for him . And the added bonus is cory Allens methe'd out tweaker lady she probably sang like a bird .
I just checked the Sheriffs web site and they didn't arrest Cory Allen sr.
Maybe you should chance your source.
@ 4:54 PM
I found the article concerning the police powers of Tribal Security and I am going to send it to the blog owner and request that he post it.
Go ahead, Montana v United States is federal law and governs how tribal security and tribal police can regulate non-members.
The Supreme Court case you cite, Montana v. United States, does not apply to California which is a PL-280 State. That means enforcement and jurisdiction over criminal offenses on the reservation has been transferred to state authorities.
Cabazon v. Smith (1998) is a better reflection on the limits of the authority of Pala Security. The key to understanding how this decision impacts the limits of the authority of Pala Security on the Pala Reservation lies in the certification procedure for Peace Officers. "Applicants must meet respective state Peace Officer Standards and Training requirements for certification as full-time peace officers. For those officers who are not yet certified, the BIA provides training. 69 Fed.Reg. 6322"
So if Pala Security Officers have been certified under the state requirements then they do have authority to enforce laws within certain limtis.
"BIA-commissioned officers may be called upon to enforce all federal criminal laws applicable to Indian country, excluding the General Crimes Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1152, and the Major Crimes Act, 18 U.S.C. § 1153. Commissioned officers are also authorized to enforce all federal statutes applicable within Indian country in the tribe's state. When responding to a call in which there is no reason to suspect a federal offense, tribal officers are instructed to respond in accordance with local and state law, although they still maintain their federal status in certain circumstances."
Are Pala Security Officers certified as Peace Officers under state requirements?
I don't mean to make you laugh. Even Robert Smith can't cover up the felony records of Pala Security. Most of them would have a hard time qualifying for certification even if they weren't felons.
The only certification that they have is from the 3 stooges training
school of fuck ups.
If Robert Smith is involved he should be handed over to the disenrolled and let them have justice on him.
Or better yet, turn him over to King and Willy Pink.
Excuse me my bad he was detained for questioning not arrested.
I like the idea of 3:49 PM.
I bet he would cry like a little bitch. I could just hear him now,
" Help me Eric ", it wasn't me it was Theresa Nieto and Dion Perez.
Some strange people stopped at the mini mart today looking for directions on how to find the Nieto residents.
The clerk told them that she didn't know and that she was new to her job at the mini mart and for them to contact Tribal Security and maybe they could help them.
They seemed to upset about something.
If the fbi are involved do a story on the popet flat murder in the 70s also a burning of a native girl on all the reservation. And the rape of 2 innocent woman in Morongovalley. And someone will come forward. And you can keep your reward. I'm trying to stay away from one bad cop. That never comes foward. Because I wouldn't want to stay in jail for 2 years for something I didn't do right officer they send out lies and the real truth never comes out do that story cold case fuckers.
Doesn't the Theresa Nieto live on Owlinguish Rd. off of Trujillo rd.
where the big Motorhome is parked?
If what 7:20 says is remotely true then RS is a dead man walking looking for a place to fall.
He has gone way to far and he needs to be dealt with either by law
enforcement or by Lawbreakers which ever one will act first.
Don't let him get away with MURDER.
He is trying to convince everyone that it's a gang out of Escondido that's responsible for the murders.
Isn't that where Dion Perez and Theresa Nieto were raised and went to school and surely have friends that are gangbangers.
And Nieto's husband being a full blooded Mexican with gang ties in Escondido also.
JUST A THOUGHT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Watch out for all of Nieto's CAMERAS.
Rumors are going around that Dre Aguilar has been caught and arrested for one of the murders at Pala.
This is only a rumor and don't know for sure if it true or a maybe.
Y know that he was a person of interest for law enforcement.
Can anyone confirm one way or another.
They arrested him in 29 Palms.
I hope his family does not post any bail for him, it might be a hazard to his health.
I hear that the Escondido gangbangers are upset for getting blamed for something they had nothing to do with.
Mr. Smith and Mrs. Nieto.
My thoughts: the wrong 2 people were killed. Someone help Pala so we can start fixing things. The trash needs to be taken out.
How can the Members of the Pala Band of Mission Indians just sit back and let Robert Smith and Howard Maxcey and Owl Face Nieto take the home of an Elder in bad health.
I can not wait to turn the tables on them and get some satisfaction seeing them suffer for what they are doing to a once happy Tribe.
They have destroyed all the Customs and Traditions that the Tribe lived under for many years.
I want to watch each one of them suffer a live time of agony and pain
that will come upon them without any doubt.
Their sickness has no cure, and they all know what they did was wrong.
And the Members have all taken the attitude of, "fuck it I like my check every month" so I am not going to say nothing".
Just wait until he goes against another family and see what happens and who knows what kind of attitude the people will have then.
But waiting to long could have a bad outcome for the Membership that is sitting on their hands and doing nothing, and it will happen sooner than later.
They the EC are going to cut the membership by another disenrollment
very soon, they are trying to figure out which family would be the least likely to do anything and to maintain the voting power for the EC. You members better think about this and take action now before its to late and you will lose everything, even you right to belong.
So that money will not mean a damn thing, it will all be gone, your right to belong, your homes, your healthcare, everything that you cherish will become a bad memory and you will have nothing to fall back on except a big fat 000000000000000000000.
One would think that the Members would learn a lesson by seeing what the EC did to the Britten Family, which has proven their blood line with Certified Documents.
So be prepared for it and act now.
Be careful what you wish for
@3:33 so are you saying there is going to be another disenrollment?
@ your daddy @3:33 PM
No one on this Reservation is wishing for more disenrollments.
We are all wishing for the Tribe to become one again and stop all of this hate and bad things that have taken over our Reservation.
Why does there have to be so much hate, lying and cheating on the Reservation?
Why can't people just live a happy life and be done with it.
Let families take care of their own and stop the threats if you don't follow the EC guide lines.
All of this bullshit started getting worse because the leaders of the Tribe have become to much to handle and are causing to much stress and turmoil on the Reservation.
No one asked to be Disenrolled or banished from the Reservation,it was done by the so called leaders, and this should be stopped before anyone else gets hurt is all we are saying.
Everyone here in Pala used to get along just fine until a few years ago, or after the Casino was built.
Everyone had things that were nice, like homes cars and even bank accounts.
And then came the feuding between the EC and a few members of family.
And instead of trying to settle the disputes the EC took it upon them selfs to disenroll these family members.
Which should have been taken care of in another manner.
They were lied to from the start by Robert and Nieto and continue to be lied to today by the same.
And this is causing Families to turn against Families and Friends
against Friends.
How do you think that the people that support our Casino look at this type of behavior?
Please think about this with an open heart and an open mind and stop it before anything else bad happens to our Reservation.
I miss those days (pre casino) as I'm sure we all do. Gaming and everything that came with it ruined what we had.
It wasn't so much that the Casino ruined what we had, It was the EC and all of their bullshit with these disenrollments that started all the shit in Pala.
They use a scare the people tactic to keep them where they are today.
There is no reason to be afraid of Robert Smith or anyone else on the EC.
That's what gets me going is why are so many people afraid of him, he is nothing but a low life little bitch and he can't even fight to defend his self without involving others.This has been proven over the years.
Man to Man he will back down because he is chickenshit just like his half a foot brother Andrew.
If they keep cutting away at there legs and feet there will be nothing left of them which would suit me just fine.
Okay back to Bruce, what's new?
Call the Admin and ask Smith or Nieto.
People trust Nieto to much, if they only new how much she knows about
this shit they would really hate her.
Her and Smith are so close that when he farts the noise and the smell comes out of her mouth.
He was arrested on 05/6/2016 in 29 palms not for murder but for hit and run and drugs and parraphanilla (spelling) hopefully the investigators will find outthat he's in west valley and hit him up ?
Let the little punk out and just kick his ass real good. He is nothing but a want a be anyway. little bastard can't fight but I will bet he can squeal like a stuck pig.
@ 3:03 PM
Okay, but the other charges will be added once they question him.
He got thrown under the bus by the 2 that were arrested in the first place, his own cousins ratted him out to save their own asses.
Why is Robert Smith so set on blaming Cory Allen sr. for the 2 major crimes.
Sounds like RS is pissed off about something.
Be careful Cory sr. he is out to get you.
The E.C. wont give Mr. Diaz, water, sewer,electric,Mr.Diaz and his wife Bev. are very sick.
The level of cruelty that the EC has reached is disgusting and uncalled for. It is ridiculous the things they are allowed to get away with and anyone that just stands by and watches them continue their heinous actions are just as guilty. Literally they are asking for so much negativity to happen to the people of the tribe, especially their own families. The EC is an infectious crippling disease slowly destroying the tribe one family at a time.
The Pala EC are going down like it or not.
They have pushed Members way beyond the limit. And for those of you that want to support them get ready for a fight because you are going to get one.
Mr. and Mrs. Diaz are in there late 70's and are not in the greatest of health and for Robert Smith to treat them like this is not going to fly.
Bonnie Dumanis will not be able to get the EC out of this battle for sure.
That just goes to show you how much the Pala Executive Committee respects our Elders.
They do not support anyone that does not deal drugs or is corrupt like they are.
Everyone here knows the Diaz family and should stand up for them.
The new home that Sonny and Beverly built and paid for with their own money is on private land and they should be granted the services that they requested.
If need be, get a meeting together and make it happen ASAP.
This is wrong in so many ways and the EC needs to be held accountable for this outrages action against the Diaz Family.
If this property is owned by Sonny and is located off the main highway
why does the EC have to approve the electrical service?
The home is built on the same property as the old Word of God fellowship church which should have on record the original copy of the Tribes permission to install and maintain the electrical service
on said property.
If I were the Dias Family I would dig a well and install a septic system and say fuck you EC.
However the Family deserves the requested services as Mr. Diaz is a Tribal Member and an Elder of the Tribe.
Nieto, Smith and Maxcey are nothing short of Evil.
There is electrical on the property already and should not require another Tribal Resolution.
The SDG&E should be able to look up the records and grant the hookup.
As for the water and sewer hook ups, bring to the General Council for approval. I am sure the Members will vote in favor of the hookups.
The only other option is to dig a well and put in a septic system.
Do you think that's why Robert Smith has cancelled another Tribal Meeting for the month of June 2016?.
Or is he afraid that people will ask how his Daughter got away with no jail time for her crimes AGAIN.
I think that Bonnie Dumanis needs to be investigated concerning her ties with Robert Smith.
Why are the Tribal Meetings being cancelled so much?
Isn't there any Tribal Business that's important enough to be addressed for the Membership of the Tribe?
This is totally going against the Arts.of Assoc. and the fake constitution. Last month= no meeting, this month=no meeting.
What the fuck is Smith and Nieto up to.
Are they planning the Great Escape and bunching the Tribal Money for themselves.
Mr. Diaz is 83 years old,Bev is 80,they cancelled the meeting,soon there will be no more meetings,they do what they want.
Out of 5 meetings this year, is it 3 or 4 that have been cancelled? They are alway when something happens like chairmanship daughter getting arrested the. Her court date the month after that then when the EC evicted someone now when denying a tribal member power and water hookups. Isn't there something in the constitution about how many meetings we must have in a year? There must be some business that needs to be discussed by the tribe. then again the EC doesn't want to hear what we have to say anyways and they do what they want. This is getting old we need new leadership!
PALA has become nothing but a greedy corrupt Reservation.
The EC does nothing but hurt their Members.
Why aren't the FBI and other Government agencies stopping them from abusing the Elderly and letting them get away with MURDER.
The denial of these services to Sonny and his wife are so wrong and needs to be dealt with now and settled.
Just because Sonny is a man of God and a good man does not mean that he should not receive the services of the Tribe.
How about Dennis Turner and all the services that he gets from the Tribe.
He gets free pasture for his cattle and horses, uses the wells on the Ranch property to water his shit and no accounting of any money coming in for the Tribe, and Turner is not a Tribal Member he is from Rincon.
And also look at all the water and sewer hook ups at the new campsite
that will be used by all the non member campers.
And a Tribal Elder requesting services for his new home that he paid for himself, is being denied services.
I believe that there needs to be an investigation and an audit of all financial dealing by the EC, mainly Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto.
I don't understand why someone hasn't taken them out one way or another yet. They do these bad things in Pala and blame Escondido Gang Members so they can cover up their tracks.
But sooner or latter these gangs will get tired and make a move on Smith and Nieto.
Being raised in Escondido, Theresa Nieto and her husband Roy Nieto probably know a third of these gang members.
Do you think that Nieto is possibly behind some of the killings in Pala?
better investigate her and Smith for involvement with the gangs that they are accusing. Think about it, it is possible.
Robert does not like the Diaz family because of his Uncle Booty married into that family and latter divorced his wife and she remarried.
He and Nieto always talk bad about that family.
People are always bitching about these meetings and smith and nieto. Use your anger at the next meeting and motion to have them removed from office, or call for an outside firm to conduct an audit of the Tribes funds.
Roberts like that little whinny kid that everybody picked on and he vowed to get them all back one day. So now that he has the power he is getting back all the people and their families that didn't include little robert. Pathetic He looks so bad health wise why is everyone afraid to stand up to him he doesn't have the energy. He's weak and losing control that's why he cancels all the meetings it's just gonna take people to start standing up and being forceful at the meetings then others will too.
Same thing goes for that two faced little bitch Theresa Nieto,and her cousins that sit on the EC.
@ 5:08 pm
And don't forget the Goodpasture fellow that kisses Roberts ass every chance he gets.(Sorry Eric).
Can't wait for the papers on that property on Pala Temecula Rd that supposedly was bought by Goodpasture.
It is in the name of the,"Brady Trust" in care of Misty Harper which is the wife of Jimbo Goodpasture.
I know Robert Smith has something to do with this transaction.
The paper work will prove it.
Speaking of badpasture how is his stepdaughter enrolled at Pala. She is not his blood and is the daughter of his wife?? Another perk of being one of robert smiths lackeys? Why do u think some people are so hard core smith supporters? Because without him in power they will lose their tribal membership. Cindy leal?
And to top that off, Jimbo Goodpasture was adopted by his parents as
his mother Carmen could not have any children after her daughter was born.
I know this because I went to school with her and her husband Jim, and lived close to them in El Cajon Ca.
I think that I may have pictures of them the day they brought baby jim home.
If I can find them I will send them to the blog owner.
When the rolls are really cleaned up and everyone's blood degree is corrected and certain people are out, remember the EC of 11-12 are the ones who opened the door for changing enrollment for current members instead of leaving it alone.
I think the brittians should be re enrolled. Having said that I also believe there should be no more dissenrollments. Dissenrollment is a shameful act and makes a tribe look weak. Re enroll and move forward.
I agree if you were a member before the casino before there were perks of being tribal then keep enrollment the same disenrollment is shameful. If you were enrolled falsely or as a favor after the casino then that should be corrected. If Cindy has always been from Pala and grew up here and knows the ways then we should keep her as a member but don't go around trying to get others out.
@ 5:49 pm
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you.
She is the one that asked the EC to investigate the Britten blood line,along with Jimbo Goodpasture who also does not belong on the Tribal rolls as he was adopted by his parents and the proof is coming soon.
Even his step daughter is enrolled in Pala which is total bullshit.
Her father is some guy that went to school with Misty Goodpasture,
Jimbo's wife.
The EC disenrolled Members with the blood degree to be enrolled and to keep these trouble makers enrolled is not going to fly.
You can show all the proof there is about jimbo and his stepdaughter not qualifying for enrollment but it won't matter Robert will not accept it or disenroll his supporters even if the have no native blood what's so ever. At Pala being a member has nothing to do with qualifying it's a club where membership is decided by the dictator. Until smith and nieto are out we cant have a true and accurate accounting of the tribes finances and membership. All the adopted members will be looked into. Most of us know the ones who kids are enrolled when their parents were the last in line to qualify for membership. Pala has become Roberts kingdom where he does what he wants regardless of the tribes laws and punishes those that stand against him and until he is out then Pala can become a decent all inclusive/fair tribe again.
When the Pala EC turned a blind eye to the Murders in Pala they have declared open season for the Hunters.
Everyone knows that it's just a matter of time until someone gets really tired of the EC bullshit and does the unthinkable to Smith and
Nieto.
It's really sad that Smith and Nieto have pushed their luck to the breaking point, but that's their fault.
And the only losers will be the supporters of these devils children.
I hope that I could be the one who writes the obit. for these low life bastards,because I would tell the truth and not hold anything back.
There is nothing to be said that would honor their passing.
This is what I believe happened in the disenrollment of the Britten Family Members.
#1-Robert and Nieto wanted to silence Mr. Freeman and Mr. Pink, knowing that Cindy Leal did not belong on the Rolls Robert used her to make the motion to investigate the Britten bloodline.
And the EC also used Goodpasture for seconding the motion.
Their payment is to keep them on the Rolls for making these motions. After the motions were made Robert used Leroy Miranda to find a way to decrease the bloodline so Miranda came up with the other documents clause for enrollment. They then figured out that the other document showed that Margarita was only listed as Half cupeno.
So the EC lead by Smith and Miranda in as Vice Chairman knowingly
And fraudulently used this paper work to lower the bloodline of a dead ancestor to get rid of King Freeman and Willy Pink.
The EC lead by Robert Smith and backed by Theresa Nieto and now Howard Maxcey as Vice Chairman are still wanting to hurt these legit Family Tribal Members.
This Family has been run over and degraded in the worse possible way
buy the Pala EC. And to think that all of the enrolled Tribal Members are sitting back and not doing a damn thing to stop it.
So now you see why Robert is keeping Cindy and Goodpasture on the Rolls and he will defend them to the end.
The Britten Family does belong in the Pala Band of Mission Indian without any doubt.
The Britten family wasn't entirely disenrolled only a generation was when the EC cut Maragarita Brittens blood in half illegally. There are still family members in the tribe fighting because their blood degree was lowered as well even tho they were never notified as such. They will keep on fighting until their blood degree is corrected and their family members are were they belong, as members. It's only a matter of time Robert can't keep this illegal action up forever. The BIA and all other tribes that use Margarita Brittwn blood count her as FULLBLOOD Pala is the only tribe that doesn't because Robert smith is in power and can do so while he is chairman,out of jail or breathing. The disenrollments will not be fixed until one of those three things happens. He will never do the right thing and reinstate he has too much hatred. Even tho he looks like he's about to keel over especially when he's trying to walk you would think he would be trying to make amends and do the right thing and leave a good legacy. He doesn't realize after he is gone his family could be the ones paying the price for his actions and theft. Or maybe he does and just doesn't care.
If Robert Smith and his EC want to be dictators, then the people should treat them as such.
Take them out and hang their asses in the middle of the park in Pala.
They are getting worse than ever.
Kicking bad health elders out of their homes with only the vote of the EC.
Bad mouthing Members who stand up for the right things. Making threats to certain people to stay in power.
Stealing Tribal money and using it to fund their own needs.
This is bullshit and needs to be handled with or without the help of the US Government or Law enforcement.
What the fuck is it going to take to wake up the Members of this Tribe.
Doesn't peoples lives matter to anyone anymore?
Are you going to sit back and let your friends and family members be abused or even killed by these corrupt evil people?
Is ten thousand dollars a month enough for you to do nothing?
Especially when you should be getting at least fifteen to twenty thousand dollars a month.
Think about the years ahead of you and the well being of you family
and those that matter to you.
I am telling you Members that if these people are not stopped by any means possible, there will be nothing left but bad memories for the Pala Band of Mission Indians.
The Homicide Detail working the Murder investigations in Pala are over
looking a real fact in these cases and that is that Robert Smith is involved in them.
Just take a close look at what he has done to the Members of the Tribe and you can make the connection.
If he thinks that he will not be found out, he is way beyond nuts.
People on the outside are beginning to talk and all anyone has to do is listen.
The U.S.Supreme Court just made a decision that's makes "HASH" of Tribal Law.
Read it in the yahoo news section.
What the fuck is wrong with Law enforcement letting the EC continue this type of action towards these legal citizens of the United States of America.
They can take action but refuse to get involved because Pala has become a "Hands Off" Reservation as far as enforcing the Law.
Just look at the Murders that have taken place and all of the stealing of Tribal funds by Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto.
And look at all the shit that his Daughters get away with and nothing is done but a hand shake and a thank you from Bonnie Dumanis.
Please, Law enforcement do your fucken job for change and take this guy down before someone else is hurt because of his evil ways.
Here is your connection between the Pala EC and the accused Gang Members in Escondido.
#-1-Theresa (Eagleton) Nieto was raised in Escondido and attended the schools in Escondido. as did her Husband Roy Nieto.
So the chances of them knowing any of the Gang Members in Escondido are of a very high percentage.
Theresa Nieto also sits on the Pala EC and is in charge of the financial Dept. of the Pala Band.
#-2- Dion Perez was also raised in the Escondido area and attended the same schools as did his first cousin, Theresa (Eagleton)Nieto.
Dion Perez also sits on the Pala EC as a Committee Member, and also has a very high percentage of knowing some of the Gang Members that the EC are accusing of the major crimes on the Pala Reservation.
This is a very strong connection between Members of the Pala EC and The accused Gang Members in Escondido. So now do you still think that the EC is not involved with the Murders in Pala?
Also the Realty doing business with the Tribe (S.Giles) is also a friend of Nieto.
See the connection now?
I just herd Robert Smith lost his sister this morning.
She passed away from bad health problems and from being related to Robert and Andrew.
That's fuckin way out shit......LoL. You must've just met up with your "connection"..... I can see that.
No it was milton trujillio it wasnt drey aguilar that was his son and him and cory were really close milton was seen and marla is saying it was milton
Sorry it wasnt drey they have him on video somewhere else dumb asses it was milton he shot him the same way he shot carol in the face so get stories right and his own sister is putting it out their marla that was dreys dad and he had mad respect for him
No he wasnt arresed for a hit and run dumb ass
Richard maxcy is next....
Post a Comment