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Sunday, February 14, 2016
The Daughter of Pala Chairman Robert Smith Arrested
Victoria Smith along with Cory Allen Jr and Kalice Magee we arrested on multiple charges.
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1 – 200 of 264 Newer› Newest»Daddy and Bonnie Dumanis will have this cleared up and taken down soon. This is pretty scary stuff and so young, what a great parent she must have to teach her this stuff.
Bet Robert has one of the other 2 take the rap for money or perks.
With those kind of charges she should be banished from the Reservation
according to the rules set forth by RS. This is considered an immediate threat to the members of Pala and the Community.
Carrying an assault rifle with a silencer.
Was it on the Rez.
yes. I think it was.
If it was anyone else without question they would be banished from the Rez but Rob will NEVER allow someone in his family to be banished. He wouldn't even allow it on the agenda. That's how Pala works now. Rob banished 2 people from seeing their family in the Rez just for talking bad about him. One of them has an allotment so they are still there.
at least they have way more than 1/16 Pala blood. With all the threats from this blog it was more likely for self defense purposes. Protecting the family, I bet she was set up by this blogs faithful 6 bloggers.
@ 12:27am. Um the minimum blood requirement is 1/16th which means every family has 1/16th enrolled and up. So every family has 1/16th, 1/8, 1/4, and 1/2 enrolled. No family has more than any other not one family has all 1/2 natives enrolled that would mean everyone below them is enrolled as well. Do you even know Pala's history and the reason it's 1/16th?? In the 60's a group of elders almost one from each family including britten's and Smith got together and decidesd on enrolling everyone 1/16th and up because even though their grandkids had not been born yet they wanted their family in the tribe. Besides you can't really take Pala members blood quantum as fact cause Robert doesn't use the same blood as the BIA and other tribes he changes it for each family (including his own) to suit his needs. I hope you are a kid or teenager because you seem to only have insults and no facts like most EC supporters ( and those are the kinds of supporters Rob loves) dumb and obedient. Most likely your not even a member and just a wannabe that hangs around the Rez pretending and hoping they were native which means even the 1/16th enrolled members have more cupeno blood than you. In that case stay out of tribal matters they don't concern you.
BULLSHIT 12:27AM
What's good for one is good for all.
If it's a shoot out that they want then have them bring it. They are citizen Indians, and no Cupa blood.
And if anyone needs protection in Pala it's the Members. They need to arm themselves and be ready for whatever RS wants to do.
I am willing to bet that RS will have Nieto write a big check to the DA's office again to settle this shit without going to court.
Any Takers on the bet?
Well one good thing is that she will never be able to hold any office with the Tribe with a felony on her record.
I guess GOD does work in mysterious ways.
There goes your legacy Robert.
@ 12:27 am
Bullshit they are citizen Indians not Cupeno.
At 12:27. Yea and I guess that's why she had a silencer and was driving without a license.
Real quick comment before I go to work.
Robert Smith was raised by his aunt Catherine Moro Trujillo who was sister to Roberts Grandmother Annie.
She took care of Robert because his Mother was said to be unfit to raise him that's how he got her property where the laundry matt is now.
Catherine was married to Alley Trujillo who was the son of Esperanza
Trujillo, Daughter of Margarita Britten.
So now a question for RS?.
You were raised by a Trujillo family so why the ill feelings towards that Family?
Even though Ally drank a lot, he worked and put food on the table for you, bought you clothes and shoes to wear so you could go to school wearing nice clothes and took you in and raised you so you would not be abused by your parents and to show your consideration you disenroll the Trujillo Members. What the fuck is wrong with you.
Like it or mot these are true facts. If Catherine and Alley would have adopted you, your name would have been Robert H. Trujillo. How does that grab you.
Maybe the trujillo cousins picked on him when they were growing up? Kids can be cruel and this is Robs ultimate revenge. He has the power now to control everyone that hurt him growing up. He got the last laugh. I mean he is childish enough and a big baby so I wouldn't put it passed him to ruin people's lives and break tribal law over something so petty.
Catherine was Roberts Great Aunt, making Ally his great Uncle and Robert Married Trina who is Alice's daughter and Ally's granddaughter, because Vivienne adopted Alice from her brother Ally who could not take care of her. So Ally's great nephew married his (Ally's) grandaughter. Robert's family has a history of hurting their own people, they have always done things against the Cupenos. He should not even be enrolled because they became citizen Indians long ago. Looks like it is following in the family, like father like daughter, so sad really.
Pretty sure no one has threatened them from the disenrolled, because we still look at everyone as family and you just don't do that to family, even though they threaten us all of the time, we are better than that.
Looks like she is OUT of jail already...
Raymind Basquez is a felon and on the Pechanga Council. So the rules aren't the same for everyone.
Daddy probably paid for Bail with tribal funds. Maybe he should get her help before she ends up a statistic. You would think with all of the money for the tribe to improve their lives, that the Chairman's own daughters would be the first to show how this money is a good thing for the Indians, but instead they are an example of the greed and corruption that many tribes with Casinos have succumbed to.
She will be doing time with 5 felony's even if it's her first felony offense. Even if one of the other 2 is stupid enough to take the blame when they get out of prison in several years Robert won't be Chairman by then to be able to keep his promises. Her vehicle she is responsible and cannot say she wasn't aware of the weapons even if Corey takes the blame she will do a couple years at least even Daddy can't make this all go away. KARMA KARMA KARMA on the family of the man who has hurt so many with his lies and deceit and for wronging dead ancestors. It will be his family first like he has hurt so many families then it will come for him. I will not feel sorry for him or his family either until he starts to make amends and make things right while he still has the power too. Robert/Theresa now is the time to gain real supporters by doing the right thing instead of supporters through fear and money. RE-INSTATE RE-INSTATE
All of this talk is bullshit.
If Robert has a Problem with anyone from the Trujillo family, he should be man enough to confront the person one on one. But he is to chickenshit to do so.
one or more of them would probably kick his fat ass.
I know almost all members of the Trujillo family and I believe that anyone of them would stand up for what is right.
Why is this turning into a thing about the Trujillos. Get back to the post.
It looks like there is a court date tomorrow at 1:30 pm in Vista for the arraignment of these people. That's when they will plead guilty or not guilty to the charges against them.
So we will what happens then.
Rumors are that someone is trying to get this to a meeting to be brought up and voted on so they can see the effects of the EC's new rules on the immediate threat situation, but the EC is fighting it all the way.
I will try to keep you updated when I hear anything.
Wow and Vincent got kicked out of the Pala Rez for standing on his land. And being called a threat to his family Pala people. Aho
Vincents not from here and only wanted money. He should of left it alone he got what he deserved. So now you guys think they should be banned when all 3 are tribal members?
Let's be honest Palarez your not that ignorant of Roberts ways. If it was any other tribal members than his daughter and her friends who already records for similar charges even from last month Ron would use that to banish them or punish them somehow. Roberts rules/ordinances need to play across the board for everyone.
Maybe all people want is for fair laws to be applied to everyone equally. Members and non-members alike have no legal right to transport assault weapons on the reservation or off. That is why they were arrested. Is it grounds for banishment or eviction? That should be for the General Council to decide, but now it is the Pala EC's job. Will the EC conduct a hearing an evaluate the evidence? That's a laugh. Sweep it under the rug and forget about it. If it's Smith's family they can do what they want.
This is what PBMI members voted for. Actually what they voted for was to keep the checks coming. All the rest is just Robert playing games with people's lives.
As for Vincent, he is not a PBMI member, and the Band has no jurisdiction over him. If he is on his land then he is not violating any eviction order. Once again Robert is playing games. His games are hurtful. Everyone feels the pain. There will likely be more pain to come. If people don't stand up for what is right they can expect to feel the pain.
Yes they should be banded from the Rez for at least the terms of the sentence and then bring it back to a meeting for reinstatement after it is over.
http://patch.com/california/temecula/daughter-pala-tribes-chairman-arrested-assault-weapons-charges-0
It's up on Temecula Patch...make it TREND
And I always hear EC supporter talk about threats on this blog, when the real threat is obviously Robert and his family
R&R is correct. Fair laws for everybody. The brittians seem to have to show more evidence then all other families. If your on the 1913 roll it's good enough for everyone else. But somehow britians have to show more. It should be fair laws across the board.
Fuck you Cuevas nevermind worry about your own Rez, oh I forgot you don't have one you fucking wetback.
Hope it didn't happen near a school or church.
R and R,
I know you above all understands innocent until proven guilty. It does sound very bad for her and I have no doubt that the charges are correct. So the best you can do is push for her to go to jail and further discredit RS.
@5:21 PM, leave Rick alone, he is one of us, he understands and fights along side his brothers against the evil Tribal Leaders that have destroyed our tribes, so you shut the F up.
5"1" and 190lbs that's some pig.
Ya, lets see if her daddy can oink her way out of this.
@ 7:17 Come on now there's no reason to attack someone on looks. I know people are pisses off about what her dad has done to so many without a care but it's Ronert who you should be attacking even though Pala's kids are indirectly hurt by Roberts actions is not reason enough to make remarks about beano. Now her acting like her dad is the shit and is a good man or leader now that's something you can attack cuz it's straight out B.S. A good leader cares about his people and tries to help them not control them and take their money. You know Rob maybe if you were a good man and kept on leading Pala to prosper like you were in the beginning with the percap going up very few years building the admin center/fire dept..bonuses we would keep voting you in. Somewhere along the line prob when Howard Dick came I. The picture you started scheming to hold onto power at any cost. Even you and Nieto know its only a matter of time before you a brought down sovereignty can't hide you for everything you've done. If you family wants to believe you that your honest and it's all lies they should have came to the meeting last year where evidence of your corrupt dealings was exposed, they will just be more hurt when your lies come to light soon.
Silencer boom.��
You know we're to look if someone gets shot Smiths house.
And if someone gets shot at Smiths, check smith house.
Why because his Daughter is mad. and she has a trigger finger and a silencer.
I saw a comment earlier that someone thought that Cory was dating Robs oldest Daughter.
No Howard Maxey is dating his oldest daughter.
WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THEIR COURT TODAY? WHO TOOK THE BLAME?
We all love our children, Nona. And want to hold them close when we can. But you have encouraged, practically forced others to support the chairman an Executive Committee evil and cruel actions against the descendants of your own great great grandmother, Margarita Brittain. You are reaping what you've sown. The pitiful part is, it's your daughter taking the punishment. And she's also a Suvimut.
Yes that is why there should be a hearing conducted before the General Council and an opportunity for all to vote whether or not this incident is grounds for eviction. It won't happen, but it would be the right thing to do. If people don't stand up for what is right though, the wrong thing will happen every time at Pala.
Robert loves to play games with people's lives, and somebody always gets hurt. The cycle looks like it is going to repeat as his daughter carries on the family tradition.
There is much too much sadness...
Did Marika Rabago get banned for her felony hit and run with injuries from a couple of years ago?
well now a couple of years ago was a couple of year before Robert and his EC made the new rules.
So Marika Rabago has nothing to do with this arrest.
What are the "new rules" concerning criminal activity, because it seems there is a lot of speculation in regards to felony charges, misdemeanor charges, felony convictions, misdemeanor convictions, where the crime took place, if the perpetrators are tribal members or non-members, and if the victims are tribal members or non-members. A lot of this becomes subject matter jurisdiction in federal law cases, but since California is a PL280 state, all criminal cases are state jurisdiction. What seems to be discussed right now is tribal law, buthe if the federal level is complicated in regards to the above questions, the answers in regards to tribal law need to be answered or else their are going to be multiple applications and multiple interpretations of the law, unless it has already been discussed, decided, and voted upon. So, whatever are the "new rules?"
What are the "new rules" concerning criminal activity, because it seems there is a lot of speculation in regards to felony charges, misdemeanor charges, felony convictions, misdemeanor convictions, where the crime took place, if the perpetrators are tribal members or non-members, and if the victims are tribal members or non-members. A lot of this becomes subject matter jurisdiction in federal law cases, but since California is a PL280 state, all criminal cases are state jurisdiction. What seems to be discussed right now is tribal law, buthe if the federal level is complicated in regards to the above questions, the answers in regards to tribal law need to be answered or else their are going to be multiple applications and multiple interpretations of the law, unless it has already been discussed, decided, and voted upon. So, whatever are the "new rules?"
Palarez
Vincent is a descendant of Sylvario Nolasquez and is much from there as any of the Nolasquez descendants. Vincent and his family have allotted land there that PBMI's EC constantly trespasses on and has dumped raw sewage on.
And also Vincent's ggg is Maria Nahwultte Cupa Maria Lugo.
It looks as if Cory Allen jr. is setting up to take the hit for these girls. According to the jail website he is still locked up with no release.
I'll bet that cost a pretty penny from the Tribe, to pay him to take the hit.
I don't care who Vincent claims to be. Why weren't his parents enrolled if there supposedly from here? He has no roll number he didn't grow up here so he can stay in hemet with his wannabe native wife who thinks she's somebody.
PalaRez no one gives a shit that you don't care.
So go do another line and post again.
I hope that Cory jr. realizes that he will lose his girl friend veronica if he takes the rap for them.
Wait a minute I thought that Cory was dating one of Walda's daughters.
I saw them kissing on face book.
Cory that's life in prison
You dishonor our ancestors and our people. By they way you speak about our people.Are you the Holy grail of family's Your ancestors or your people made it back from the removal of the children,and the atrocities of the assimilation in the boarding schools. That's if any of your people were ever removed. We all came from Cupa Village unless your from the ancestors of the great people of Pala Luiseno tribe old Pala no matter what you think or feel Vincent Marruffo is part of our people and from the removal of Cupa village. Have respect for our people who are still out there and never mad it back. May the Great Spirit and the Creator give you peace and take away all the hate in your heart seek him and he will draw near to you. Aho~
Will Cory be going for life on the three strike law so sad.
Palarez, where you from? San Felipe? Or are you Old Pala Luiseno? Perhaps Cahuilla from Morongo? You don't act like a Cupeno. Are you Yaqui?
Corey may be a f-up but he doesn't deserve life because of the stupid decisions he continues to make . I mean look at his role models he has to look up to. 15-20yrs is good and 5-10 for beano to learn here lesson and straighten her up. By the time she gets out dear ol' dad won't be running things anymore. Also Palarez will never let it be known who they are because they are a coward. Uneducated and scared of the truth. Lies are and sovereignty to protect those lies is all people like Palarez and Robert Smtih have to keep them going. Theresa cooks the books and hides behind sovereignty to keep those books closed to outside eyes. BY THE ASK YOURSELF HOW MUCH THE EC PAYS THEMSLEVES IN SALARY & BONUSES EVERY YEAR. You would be surprised. I remember voting years ago for a salary for the EC it was 60k for chairman 40k for the rest. IS IT STILL THAT BECAUSE I DONT REMEBER VOTING ON RAISING IT DO YOU?? ALSO GIVING THEMSELVES HUGE BONUSES AND SALARIES IS NOT ILLEGAL IF ITS IN THE ORDINANCE, THEY CAN GIVE THEMSELVES QUARTERLY 25,000 BONUSES AND 250,000 SALARIES. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE PERCAP NOT GOING UP??
Go to HELL Palarez!!
LOL. Don't you know the PBMI General Council gave the Pala Casino Resort and Spa to the Pala EC? They can use the money anyway they want. The salaries are nothing to them. It's just a fraction of the money they get from being the Pala Gaming Authority, the Board of Directors of Pala Interactive, and all the other pots they have their hands in.
Sad Cory is doing life thanks warriors
@ 2:17PM
I did a little checking and this is what I was told.
Robert gets $200,000 per year for being Chairman.
Maxey ?? vice 85,000 per year for vice chair.
Sect. supposed to get 85,000 per year.
Committee members get $35,000 per year.
This is just totally unfair. And they still get per cap on top of this salary.
And let not forget all the comps at the casino, plus the use of the jet. Tribal Credit cards, petty cash accounts, and all the vendor bribes, contract award bribes, grease the pockets bribes.
Just this shit alone is well over a Million Dollars that the members never see. Plus add in all the bad investments that the EC says they made without the Membership approval, another couple of MILLION DOLLARS.
Plus all the Vehicles bought that are not needed, and all the tractors and equipment that members can not use.
Another 2-3 Million Dollars.
All of this shit with no checks and balances for the EC.
We are all victims of theft by the EC.
And by giving the EC your power it's all our faults.
Better take the power back before everything is transferred over to RS
and there is nothing left except Gov. handouts.
And all of the above is plus the budget that the EC request every year. Another 25 million. So that's over 50,000,000.00 Million Dollars that should be given as per capita to the members.
now I see why people say that we should be getting double what we get now/Thank you to whom ever found this info.
So our the other to doin life
So our the other to doin life
I think each should take 2 felony
So they
Don't all do life
Unless one has😰😤😴🗿
If these girls throw Cory under the bus on these charges that would be fucked up for him, he already has 2 strikes on him and thius would be # 3 which could land him in prison for life.
Don't leave out the federal funds that PBMI receives and uses for programs and services and does not include as part of the budget. This money gets spent and the budget money gets misappropriated.
@ 6PM
I hope you use it and not just sit back and say oh well.
Just give me my check every month and I'm happy.
This is all facts and no bullshit.
And this is for just 1 year, add this up for say 5 years and you get
250 MILLION DOLLARS unaccounted for.
Now can you see why a forensic audit is so important.
It's for the benefit of the whole Tribe, and not just a few chosen ones.
Cory were here for you do what you think is right Real Pala Rez ignore the blogger. It is a hacker for our tribe. Pala Rez wouldn't do that your our family. Robert is a Smith.
Prison is not for you
Family means nothing to Pala members anymore. Disenrollees are family and look what happened to them, Joe Scott was family and look what happened to him, where is his family, why are they not speaking out? What is more important? Don't trade your life so some loser can still lead the tribe, even if he threatens your family, stand up against him. If you do not deserve to go to jail for life, but what has your family done for you, have they allowed you to continue on a violent or criminal path? Why don't you use your huge Christmas bonus to get some help? See what your Casino and Corrupt leader has done for you. Where did the meth come from? Who really controls the Pala youth? Praying for you to all see the light, and do something positive with your gift!
Cory were here for you do what you think is right Real Pala Rez ignore the blogger. It is a hacker for our tribe. Pala Rez wouldn't do that your our family. Robert is a Smith.
Just want to thank all our family from Pala we love you all so much were here for you warriors of Pala long fight were battling sickness we are here on the side lines may the great spirit guide you
YOu all stay together always and Peace be with our family always. MAY God be with the leaders of this tribe. forever.
@10:56 The EC thanks you.
may God bring justice to the Pala Band of Mission Indians. May he also heal the sick and heal all the minds and Hearts of those that have caused evil to the Cupeno People.
May he also bring happiness back to where it belongs, with all of our People, Thank you Lord for hearing prayers, and healing our Reservation.
@ 10:56PM
You forgot to ask GOD to condem the evil and to give him praise for the good.
Shut up Jill
No you shut the fuck up.I am getting tired of your bullshit.
May God have mercy on your soul Palarez. God knows the truth and you know the truth, you cannot escape it. It will haunt you in your sleep until you ask for forgiveness.
No I sleep just fine at night. The truth is you and your husband need to mind your own business. Sewer rats.
You know PalaRez you act real tuff behind your key board.
Why don't ever talk like that to me in person. Are you afraid you might get you ass handed to you.
Palarez, where you from? Are uou Old Pala Luiseno? Or are you from San Felipe? Cahuilla from Mornongo? Yaqui? You don't act like a Cupeno.
How come only Kalice and Ciry have court php ointments on the 29th?
Cory and court appointments
Palarez claims to be old Pala, but really their family is from Rincon and their ancestor wormed his way into Pala back when allotments were being handed out.
Just out of curiosity - what is a 'Citizen Indian"?
Tribal member? What are the "new rules" regarding evictions from tribal land?
A citizen Indian is an Indian who gave up their rights as an Indian for rights as a citizen of the United States and able to vote. You can check this by seeing if an individual native is on register of voters for any year in the past as was a certain person who's family claims membership in Pala today using his Indian ancestry when he gave it up.
@ 6:03PM
The new rules are, that the EC makes them up per incident and it all depends who is involved as to who gets fined or banished.
Just keep tabs on the arrest of V.Smith and the other girl you will see what I mean.
I bet you if the topic of his daughter is still around next month Rob will cancel the meeting so people can't bring it up. He has done it before.
Many members do not know she got arrested, because Rob does not let the Reservation receive certain websites through their ISP. Of course someone like Palarez will come on here and say that is not so, but it is. Just like he tries to check the ISP #s of those who comment, because if they are from Pala and he finds out, he will hit them with some kind of sanctions. Hail to the mighty Dick-tater.
I don't claim old pala obviously you can't read.
It's just a matter of time before someone catches him doing this and he will get arrested for it. And if his little I-T thinks he is sovereign he is mistaken, he is not a Tribal Member. He is Asian or some kind of slant eyed dude.
see what this web blog is doing it is scarring our kids to the point they are in fear of these bloggers who threaten their families with terror and words of killing of their loved ones and who wouldn't be scared,the way this blogg keeps the threats going it is a scary thing for these families. id fucken roll around deep too fuckers..you and this bloggg sight should have been shut down along time ago right when the first person used the words of physical harming of our tribal members..see what this blog has done it is a tool of terror ism torture and deceit…nothing good at all just blasting of these kids parents of people wanting to harm them..i don't even blame these kids they are acting in the best way when it comes to blogging to the general public of killing and harming their families ..all this blog sight has done is have negative impact on my tribe i say we fucken throw all you fuckers out who don't belong here walking around stood and drunk I'm suppressed we don't throw out anyone who walks around the village drunk and huffy and obscene..beware we are all watching out for our tribes safety..especially the radicalized nothing good about this palawatch blog sight used as a terrorism tool..and fuck you too..
just know all my kids and myself are packing too legally..when shit pops off your the ones who will be fucken fucked..in the asshole..yeah thats right i said it..fuck you too..
fuck this palawatch blog and fuck you too fuckers..
So Palarez, you claim to be palarez, what does that mean? Are you Luiseno? Cahuilla? Digueno? Yaqui? Other? You don't act like a Cupeno.
Um @ 8:44, yeah good try, we have not threatened anyone or anyone's family, we are the ones being threatened and taunted on a daily basis. If we were violent, something would have went down long time ago. I guess we forced them to do Meth too, huh? You are just trying to justify a crime, or scare the youth that they are being threatened. If anyone has threatened anyone it was not us. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying the things you just did. This whole blog would not even exist if it was not for the evil and corrupt EC, that is who you need to blame. We never harmed anyone or wanted anyone disenrolled, we just want our due process and equal rights. The way that the EC and it's loyal supporters have acted towards the disenrolled is appalling and the things that we have had to endure from our own people is heartbraking, so awful and heinous that we would not wish this on anyone. You know that you are wrong and we have proven it over and over, but you continue to hate, why? Did we take away your heritage? Did we take away your tribal rights? Did we take your heart out and squeeze the life out of it? Did we make it so that we had to have security everywhere we go? Did we take advantage of your money? Did we tell you who you could visit or who could visit you? Did we lower your per-capita and use a bogus reason? Did we cheat in the elections? Your threats to us that you need to carry a weapon because you feel threatened by people who have committed no crime is dumbfounding, yet you defend youth on Meth with assault weapons and silencers? What is wrong with that picture? I won't use curse words towards you because I have more respect for you and myself than that.
@ Palarez, who can't read? Obviously you cannot read, nor can you spell. Read our proof instead of just posting your hate. If you can read then you would know, which you do. Truth. We belong, always have, always will.
If 8:36 tried this as a defense, won't that open a Pandora's box of issues involving the band.
To Palarez..why do you keep saying our tribal members and our village?? Some of us including me are tribal members too. Thirst problems on our Rez between members all stems from the lies and deceit of our current leadership. They don't answer questions at the meetings and won't allow me or anyone to put things on the agenda to be discussed by the people that they don't want brought up. Palarez stop making it look like its a bunch of outsiders attacking tribal members. Even the disenrolled/family are members as far as I'm concerned. They have the blood degree to be enrolled as says all the document the BIA and several other tribes that's us MB blood degree for their members. This is an internal tribal matter between members and members who are not currently on the rolls. Key word currently but will be again at some point. If the gov't may it be the IRS,FBI,BIA,DEA doesn't intervene in our tribes problem with being run under a dictatorship then the people will. If it does come to that I don't want to see the gov't coming in after trying to prosecute tribal members when they left it alone as an internal tribal dispute. YOU EITHER STEP IN NOW OR STAY OUT COMPLETELY U.S. GOV'T!!
Well said 9:49. The problems in pala only exist because the EC has divided our Rez. Come on people, the EC is full of corruption.
Yet another example of the strange twisted logic of the Pala EC and their supporters. The scary people who post on the blog are threatening the members of Pala. The good and sweet kids who drive around with assault weapons while under the influence of meth need everyone's support. The Pala EC is really stepping up in this matter. Look how well they handled the entire affair.
First thing to do is get the Chairman's daughter off the hook. Then blame the disenrollees and the bloggers because that is the source of the problems.
Stand up leadership from the Chairman Smith. He knows what is best for Pala. Everyone look to his example of what a PBMI member should be. Protect the crime and corruption. Lie about the wrongdoings. Blame innocent persons. Then have a big party because Borgata is switching over to Pala Interactive licensed software and that means his shares of stock will skyrocket in value.
Way to go Chairman Smith.
@ 8:36 AM
If you are so concerned about the safety of your Tribe and it's members then don't you start with the real trouble makers,Robert Smith
and Theresa Nieto. They are the one that push people around like they are nothing.They are the ones that think their shit does not stink.
They are the ones that have had cameras installed through out the Reservation spying on the members and using any means possible to make lives a living hell in Pala.
Also it may help the Children if they were told the truth about how the EC is destroying the Reservation, instead of filling there minds full of lies.Tell them how Robert and Theresa Nieto took their trust funds and no one knows where they hid the money. Try the TRUTH and SET YOURSELF FREE.
END ALL OF THIS HATE AND GET RID OF THESE CITIZEN INDIANS FOR GOOD.
Do you know why the EC is so corrupt? Because the general membership does nothing to stop them. Until the tribal members come together and put a stop to the ECs bullying, they will continue to do it. As long as they keep getting away with it, it will progressively get worse.
@ 8:36AM
Maybe someone should have taken action to end Mr. Smith and Mr. Perez and Theresa Nieto in the beginning and none of this would be happening today.
They get away with everything including violating the rights of Tribal Members, disenrolling Tribal Members, Banishing Tribal Members,
Taking money for Tribal Members, bad Mouthing Tribal Members,
threating Tribal Members abusing Tribal Elders, and you see nothing wrong with that. These corrupt people are the root of all that is happening in Pala today. And that seems to be OK with you. Just wait and see when your EC is arrested because it will happen sooner than anyone thinks.
And Smith even gets help from the County's top cop, Bonnie Dumanis.
She hides shit from the public that is open info for the public.
She removes names and charges from the DA's web page.
No one else has this privilege from the DA's office except for Robert Smith who openly backed her for Mayor with a large donation.
And who still donates to the DA's fund when his family or friends get in trouble.
So people, who do we turn to for help?
Even if we arm ourselves with weapons in case something goes down, GUESS who will be in trouble with the County Top Cop, for sure it will not be her personal banker.
I don't know who to really trust anymore because RS has bought off everyone who could help us.
So what do we do?
Sit back and take his bullshit, arm our self and our family and take action or take the chance that one or more of us will be shot because of all the hate that the EC has spread to protect them from be put in prison.
Well I don't know about any of you but I am going to make sure that my Family members are safe and ready for their next move.
I will make sure that my family is armed to the hilt, and make sure that they know how to use the weapons if needed.
This has gone far enough and needs to be settled one way or another.
The way RS and his supporters want this is to get rid of as many members as possible and to make sure no one gets in there way.
So do want ever it takes to keep your loved one safe from these EVIL fuckers.
There's not one day that goes by when I don't think about Robert dying or getting arrested and putting all this behind us.
Hahaha what makes you think that RS can get his daughter off the hook if she breaks the law there's consequences just like anybody else.and they weren't her guns,she just got caught up with someone who had guns with them ,nobody's trying to put the blame on anyone or taking the fall for anyone.and nobody's trying to shoot anybody or there family so calm down.but u wouldn't believe that because u idiots think RS is evil and so is the EC and they're out to get u.let me just tell u this u guys are out of it and make ur selfs look dumb as fuck on this blog but if it makes ur selfs feel better By all means have at it
@5:03
If they aren't out to shoot anyone then why are they driving around with a assault weapon and silencer?
@February 24, 2016 at 5:03 PM
Anyone else in the State of California driving around with an assault riffle, unregistered hand gun, drugs, and a silencer would still be in jail.
You can shill all you want for whatever advantage you think it gives you with the Robert Smith Crime Organization. But eventually common sense takes over and no amount of turd polishing you Smith Supporters engage in will be able to cover up the stench.
Maybe Bonnie Dumanis would like another investigation into her dealings with Robert Smith.
Any banking transactions that are done are not safe from viewing. An electronic transaction is done when ever someone uses a ATM or goes into the bank and uses the Teller at any window you are asked to swipe either you California ID or bank card before any transaction takes place.
By doing this this creates an electronic transaction and can not be erased.
@5:00PM
What good is it if he dies.We want justice for what he, Nieto, and Perez did to the people in Pala.
They should all feel the effects of their actions.
I not saying that if either of the 3 fell over dead that I would morn for them, I would probably piss on their graves.
I guess it's time to head out to Arizona and get some equalizers for the Family to protect themselves from the EC.
I'll let you all know what is a good deal when I return in a day or so.
Just herd that Howard Dickstien is on life support after wrecking his new red sport scar.
@ 5:03, You are the one who is delusional about Robert, he might e nice to you, but just like some serial killers have families that have no idea what they are doing or how evil they are, so to Robert is sneaky, manipulative, arrogant, threatening, some say murderous, many say he is a rapist, and he thinks he can do whatever he wants and treat people any way he wants. If he is such a good leader then why are people scared of being disenrolled by him if they speak up? If he is such a good leader then why do so many members hate him. Why does he have cameras planted around the rez? Why do his daughters think they can do anything they want? Why do people say he and Andrew killed a man in the campgrounds, Andrew's baby, a jet skiier, and Joe Scott? An innocent person might get blamed once, but 4 times? If he is so good then why is he not sharing the truth with the tribe about his dealings and the finances of the tribe? Name one of his followers from the tribe that has done something to better the tribe, the area, or Indian Country with their gift of Casino profits.
The truth to Robert Smith means to lie.
Even if he walked into a room soaking wet and said it was raining like hell outside, I would have to go outside and see for myself.
#-1,baby died at the hands of Rs & brother Andrew.
#-2,Man died because of Maglite shoved down his throat at camp ground.
#-man found dead in pond at camp ground after RS riding seado in pond.
#-Joe Scott missing after Smith brothers argument.
This is a sad and sorry excuse for a so called man.
And everyone kisses his shit filled ass, even the county's top cop,
Bonnie Dumanis.
# And lets not forget Amy D. the Regional Director for the BIA. Plus many others that are just as guilty by association.
I honestly think ur a fuckin weak ass motherfucker,talkin all this shit over the internet about some shit that u made up,like for real I give u props u should write a damn fairy tail cuz ur imagination is unbelievable.u got a lot to say about Robert and Andrew how come u don't tell them how u feel in person instead of writing it on this weak ass Blog.ur too fuckin pussy that's why u write shit on here anonymously because ur too pussy to let anyone know who u r
Yep, just like you. You chicken shit mother fucker, Anonymous asshole.
These are facts that are all over the place. So before you go calling people down check your facts.
And I am not a pussy but I like pussy.
Shut up your know your a pussy. All you can do is attack the Chairman or EC behind a keyboard because obviously court is working for you guys.
What do mean the Court is working for you guys?
Maybe the Court will lock up the Ones charged with the weapons and silencer charges.
And as far as attacking the Chairman or the EC, fuck it tell them to bring one on one, and then we will who you label as a pussy.
No weapons and no sovereignty.
Palarez, you claim to be of Palarez but you refuse to answer what you are. What are you? Luiseno? Cupeno? Cahuilla? Yaqui? Digueno? What are you?
Yeah but u still don't know who u R ?? @8:33pm so who are u ,I wanna know who the fuck is talking all this heavy shit !! I bet ur too pussy to let ur self b known !
Why do you want to know who is posting on here. So you can disenroll them, or kick them out of Pala?
@4:49 PM. Don't tell PalaRez who you are palarez is fishing for sure.
yup I knew u were too pussy ,all u can do is talk shit over the internet,pussy ass shit .keep making up more shit to put on this blog that's all your good at.and whoever the fuck keeps posting shit about Robert and Andrews family that has passed away alls I gotta say is u must be a weak ass bitch to bring them into it.i don't care how much I don't like the person I would never stoop that low it just shows u ain't shit and if I ever find out who u are I'm gonna make sure u know the fuck I am .
Innocent people do not need to worry about people catching them in their lies, they do not not need cameras watching who is doing what, they don't need to get rid of people who ask questions, they do not need to threaten others, they do not need security from people who are pissed at them, they do not need to have others help them post on the blogs and find out who is posting. An innocent person answers questions, treats people with respect, does not have people pissed at them, smiles and talks to others honestly, is not shifty or sneaky, and spreads goodness not evil or hate.
Don't fuckin try and change it up like ur all innocent and shit now hahaha I'm over it fuck all you Guys on this bitch made blog just keep people's family members who aren't with us anymore out of ur posts .
Like Margarita Brittain?
@10:14 you know who I am we talk almost every day.
And for sure you better watch your threats because you know reputation
and you also know I will not put up with you threats.
No we don't know who u r @3:42am and nobody was threatening u they simply told u .fuck this weak ass blog anyways ,nothing but a bunch of big mouths on here who make up stories to make themselves feel better.
@ 5:41PM
Sorry, but do you mean PalaRez also.
Here is a good one.
Sources are saying that the FBI wants to take over the case involving
the chairmans daughter and the others that were involved because it happened on the Reservation and that makes it a Federal Case also.
That would be something if they pull this off.
Because the Federal Courts would for sure make them do some time for the charges that they are accused of.
Even Homeland security wants in on the charges.
Karma's a bitch.
So anonymous is complaining about anonymous posters not having the courage to say who they are? Does anyone else think this is hilarious? It is so easy to get a rise out of these idiots. Just say something about RS dead relatives and watch the smoke come out of their ears.
I say may their souls rest in peace. They are free of the tyranny of the sick Chairman. The problem with this blog is that people are speaking freely without concern for the evil tyrant throwing them off the reservation. Must be giving him a hissy fit and he is telling his lackeys to come on the blog and talk trash.
Once again the great leader shows his leadership skills by taunting about the court cases and how he wins because cases get dismissed. Soon enough the court will actually review the evidence instead of dismissing. What do you think will happen then? will the judge think lies, corruption, fraud, theft, and silencing opposition reflects a leader properly abiding by tribal law and his vows of office? Will the court respect a Chairman who has usurped the power of the General Council, dishonored the elders, evicted innocent people without due process, and bribed the sheriffs department and the district attorney?
We will see when that day comes. Until then go ahead an talk your moronic trash. It is obvious that you are getting paid to say awful things. It is worth a few laughs to see how the Chairman defends his evil actions.
And to top that off, when Andrew Smiths got raided RS and the EC knocked down his old house and approved building him a brand new home.
If they are not stopped and continue on this path the Reservation will no longer be.
Their goal is to destroy as many lives as possible.
AGAIN PEOPLE this is what happens when you give the EC all the say so and the power to do so.
This is a result of the latest power grab by the EC that you Members gave them. there is no due process in the Pala Tribe.
There for at the next meeting a motion needs to be made to banish Victoria Smith from the Reservation and all boundaries with in.
Bernie never got the chance to explain what happened at her house.
The cops were looking for a wanted person from Vista who was dating one of her daughters and this is the end result.
Look at Melissa Smiths house, the gang bangers from O'side are always there.
They block the roadway with their vehicles so no one can get through.
Then even stay for 2-3 days at a time in the trailer that's parked in her yard.
But I guess that doesn't matter to the EC.
Theresa Nieto knows this also because she lives next door.
But will she complain? FUCK no.
And Howard the Duck is going to do as his Godfather wants him to do.
Howard sure fooled a lot of Tribal Members when he wanted their votes to replace Leroy Miranda. He is turning out to be a real asshole, just like the rest of them.
And Bernie Trujillo is up to date on her house payment and was never late one time. She has lived on the property for over 30 years.
I say Robert Smith needs to be thrown out of office, a long with Theresa Nieto and her 1st cousins Howard Maxey and Dion Perez.
The Pala EC has taken another home from a 65 year old Elder in bad health. Bernie Trujillo Duro was given 60 days to vacate her home on the Reservation.
This is what the 6:23 PM comment is about.
Seems the Pala EC is taking the home of a 65 year old Tribal Elder in bad health. SEE COMMENT ABOVE @ 6:23 PM
Was there any assault weapons or a SILENCER involved?
6:33 Duro Trujillo JUST TALKED TO THE FAMILY. You can stay on the Nolasques land talk to one of the elders
Court tomorrow for Kalcie and cory
Why just two?.... Does Robert already have his piglet off the hook?
what about Court for Victoria Smith.
Or will it be held in Bonnie Dumanis's office like before.
fucken nieto doesn't know when to quit.
I think it's time to start the Morongo transfer for her.
Looks like Victoria Smith is on calendar for tomorrow morning at 8:30
for felony readiness.
Pala Members should bring up the matter of a hearing for Bernie. She has not been convicted of any crime. Harboring a suspected criminal is not against tribal law. The individual must be a fugitive from the law, and the person must knowingly aid or abet them, and that is state law. Is there a similar provision in tribal law? It is hard to tell because the Pala Ordinances are moving targets. The EC can amend them at will so you never know if they change the law and don't tell anyone.
If the Members would only take the time to read and understand these posts, then they would see the importance of getting Smith and his gang
out of office.
But they listen to the EC backers and are afraid of loosing their monthly check, so they sit back and let people get abused and kicked around by the EC.
What they should be thinking about is that the EC could very well do the same to them.
And then they will be crying foul, and it will be to late to do anything about it.
I don't think that a hearing request would help Bernie in this case because Maxcey and Nieto have already made up their minds that they want her home.
The real remedy would be to impeach the EC members that want this to go forward, Maxcey and Nieto, and Robert Smith.
Smith is putting it all on Nieto and Maxcey as the ones that are pushing for this eviction, but he as Chairman has the final say.
Heroin was being sold out of this house and Bernie did nothing to stop it, willingly allowed that to happen.
Hasn't the FBI and Homeland security been meeting with Tribal councils in California about Rezs being used by ISIS and terrorists to bring in weapons and recruit. Don't know the details but something about sovereignty and law enforcement not being able to investigate on reservations.
lugo family should clean their own houses of heroin users before they go after others.
The EC should then go to every house that deals some kind of drug and evict everyone in the house! They know who deals.
Even Andrew Smiths house and Chairman Whippets.
It's called eliminating the competition and cornering the market.
@3:56 AM
Do you have any proof.
There are at least 5 homes in Pala where you can buy meth and 4 where you can buy pot. Did you buy heroin at this house? or is that what you were told.
There was nothing said about sales of heroin in that house in the report. So you are either a user or were set up to make this post.
Sounds like an undercover post @11:29 AM.
Are you trying to trick someone into admitting that they have bought drugs?
Probably keeping an eye on who is posting what concerning drugs.
@7:50 am
Robert is not going to give permission for the FBI or any other agency to investigate any thing on the Pala Reservation in fear of getting caught.
NO FBI= (full blooded Indians)in Pala.
Shut up Jill its not your land
PALAREZ, wrong again.
My name is not Jill.
Did you know that Jack and Jill went up the hill, each had a dollar and a quarter. But when they came down Jill had $2.50.
I bet they didn't go up there for water.
Why are you picking on this Jill person.
WRONG AGAIN PAPAREZ.
@7:50 am and 11:42 am
You are both wrong. The State of California is a Public Law 280 state, meaning all criminal jurisdiction and all civil jurisdiction (if the tribe does not have a tribal court) are under the jurisdiction of the State of California. No tribal council in California can stop a State and/or Fedreal jurisdiction no matter what, the State (represented by the Sheriff, CHP) and the Federal government can do whatever they want jurisdictionally on an Indian Reservation in California.Stop lying.
Seems that someone is breaking into homes again in Pala.
Someone kicked in the door of Kathy Machado and took items.
Word is that they are Black Residents who may live close by.
Better check the Tribal Rolls or Tribal ID's for a photo line up.
If they are caught will they lose their per capita checks.
Or will Smith and Nieto cover it up.
At 6:02 homeland security has been warning tribal leaders about weapons.
@8:09pm
What does that mean? Warning tribal leaders about weapons?
Or check lee bar ranch there's a lot of black people who live there
It's better to have guns handy when these outsiders come around trying to break into our homes ,especially if ur an elder ,or have young children.
Word has it that they hit another home in Pala Today on Cactus rd.
Took Indian jewelry and other Items.
If they come to my house they will be shot before they knock.
Ok so Meth and whip hits ok, heroin bad.
If kids or family members of the EC get busted for drugs charges get reduced and nothing happens. If others get busted they get evicted.
Sound about right?
any kind of drugs are bad and if they are not a tribal member they should get evicted from the reservation they are non members (outsiders) ,now I think that sounds about right..
So tribal members can drive around with assault rifles, drugs, and silencers? But non-tribal members can't? Who gets evicted? Only non-tribal members? tribal members can do anything they want? Or only tribal members with close ties to the EC?
non tribal members should be evicted and just because one of the tribes daughters gets arrested,and is a TRIBAL MEMBER doesn't automatically mean she should get evicted,as a matter of fact all 3 of them were tribal members ,now if they weren't tribal members I would want them evicted.and nobody has special ties with anyone,reality is non members get evicted it makes sense why would you evict your own tribal member from the reservation
So 3 tribal members driving around the Rez high on meth with a assault rifle and silencer should not be evicted, but a 65 year old tribal elder should be evicted cuz a druggy stayed at her house?
I was referring to eviction from the reservation.
and I believe the elder was never staying in her home in the first place her children were
@9:33
You should evict tribal members from the Rez if they are found to be a threat to other tribal members
OK,what about what we voted on.
The EC wanted the power to handle problems which cause an immediate threat.
If assault weapons and drugs, and a silencer are not considered here
then what is?
No problem, just take their per cap away for 1 year, until they complete a rehab program with proof and bring it back to the Members for reconsideration.
To let this go unpunished is not a good idea.
Due the right thing or revise the ordinance AGAIN.
Didn't the EC evict a young man from the Reservation not long ago.
RS stated at a meeting that this man was not a Tribal member.
However a Federal Court Ruling by the 4th district Judge Hayes Ruled
that these people were to remain Federally enrolled Tribal Members.
But 2 Members of a family motioned to banish this man from the Reservation and a loaded meeting vote was passed.
AGAIN no DUE process and only a statement by a man who is considered a liar of all liars, Chairman Smith.
This banishment should have never taken place and should be reversed
Because of this Federal Court ruling.
It was done because of false statements by the Chairman and the EC.
Robert Smith and the EC seem to be focused on the wrong things in Pala.
With as many security persons employed in Pala they can't catch the ones that are breaking into peoples houses.
But when it comes to evicting Tribal members from their homes and not allowing them to visit family members on the Reservation their on it like flies on shit.
So maybe it's time that the Members turn the tables on the EC and make them obey the rules that they requested the power to enforce from the General Membership and apply to all, equal.
Or sit back and due nothing as always until it happens to you.
I think everybody has different opinions concerning tribal law and crime. The tribe makes policy, through GC meetings, that you as members vote on, once these become finalized they become tribal law and are governed by the tribe, not the feds, not the state of California. As far as drug use, alcohol use, weapons possession, harboring get known drug dealers, and non-member trouble makers, these all lie within an intersection of tribal and state law. If you know drugs are being sold prove it and call the,Sheriff. If you want to control how the tribe deals with the above issues, go to a meeting and exercise your rights as a tribal member. Stop blaming and making excuses.
Very well said ...@3:28pm
I love to go meeting. but that fat fuck and the fake holy woman,along with those other bitches on the EC,have made sure of that for are family.Your time will come enjoy yourself here because someday you will have to answer for your wrong doings.You must not care about your family because karma is a Bitch
@3:28PM
Do you mean that when the EC approved the enrollment of the disenrolled back in the 80's, it became Tribal Law?
Yes, and just like any other ordinance and policy, it can be changed and still be tribal law. Change it if you don't like it, but that change needs to come from within not from without, not the feds, the state, or anybody else.
Unless the tribal leaders are corrupt and a threat to the well being of their members, then the BIA has a duty to step in. They don't need to solve the enrollment issues, all they need to do is solve the way to rid tribes of their evil leaders or to refuse federal recognition to those who disenroll without verifiable proof.
The EC may propose an ordinance and the General Council may approve it with a vote at a duly called General Council meeting. But after that the EC can change the ordinances as they see fit without General Council approval.
The EC amended the enrollment ordinance twice without General Council approval so they could disenroll people. They can amend any ordinance they want for any reason.
omgee bradly trujillio ,just found out my cuzzin omgee
Maybe that's why Beano and friends had guns with silencers, they were giving them to someone who needed them to do something quietly but after they were caught the person had to resort to other means. Just a thought. Hopefully DA Dumanis doesn't get in the way of a proper investigation to help her donations from Beanos father Robert Smith of Pala to keep coming in. Just saying there's no reason for a silencer other than to shoot a gun secretly. Where did they get the silencer? The Feds should get involved and take a good look into the case so Dumanis who is state cannot interfere. Pull the thread see what unravels. If another tribal member did this to Bradley they should be banished and disenrolled while their in prison the rest of their lives with no support from the tribe. It's a far better reason than asking too many questions and not voting the way The chairman wants you to vote.nThat seems to get you banished and disenrolled at Pala.
@12:02pm have some respect for the family and please keep your assumptions to yourself
@12:26pm As a Pala tribal member I was taught by my leaders respect doesn't matter and neither does family it's all about punishing your enemies and taking from your cousins or neighbors to get more for yourself. Also to just accept the way things are and keep your mouth shut so you can get a free buck$ I lost my respect for much of Pala over the past few years. Things are just not the same anymore I think and feel different as a tribal member but that's from what I see happening around me. It's sad but even the pride is not what it used to be. PERCAP is nice but it's not everything and it's not worth our souls. It was nice the first few years the casino opened and thought things are gonna be great everyone was happy and had money to do things and go places and then somewhere along the line things changed when Robert and Theresa starting trying to control things too much and stay in power. They started turning us against each other for their benefit. Creating family fueds. It's sad but things including respect have changed in Pala.
Another person was shot and killed in Pala This morning. Word has it
that Anthony Boles and Richard Molina were arrested for murder after they tied up Mr. Trujillo and shot him in the back of the head, gang style. Maybe Robert Smith can get them probation and time served.
Any connection with Corey Allen being arrested with weapons and silencer then another Allen being arrested for shooting someone??? Wonder if the 2 are connected? Pala people think they are above the law..well that's what Robert teaches them. He does what ever he wants and nobody touches him.
WARNING TO PALA MEMBERS.
YOU BETTER GO AND ARM YOURSELFS TO THE HILT.WE TOLD YOU THERE WOULD BE MORE VIOLENCE IN PALA AND HERE IS THE STARTING POINT.
@5:12 Yea if no one heard the shots. Are tyanna and Cory cousins. And Lugos?
These things are not connected, just a bunch of crazy people jumping to conclusions.
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