I'm sure most of you have already heard all the news you need to hear...but just in case
OC Register - Pala Casino, Spa & Resort and Cahuilla Casino temporarily close amid coronavirus concerns
Pala Casino, Spa & Resort in northern San Diego County and Cahuilla Casino in Anza are the most recent casino properties to close their doors temporarily amid concerns over the novel coronavirus, officials for each of the casinos announced Wednesday, March 18.
The Pala Band of Mission Indians announced on Wednesday morning that it would temporarily shutter Pala Casino, Spa and Resort in northern San Diego County by Friday, March 20 due to the novel coronavirus pandemic.
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However Pala tribal members received a letter today in the mail that states the following.
"LETTER"
Dear Pala Band Members,
We are fighting to stay open so we can provide for our Tribe and Employees.
We will stay open unless there is a case, or the National Indian Gaming commission,NIGC requires us to temporarily
close. We are taking things one day at a time.
If you have any questions or concerns do not hesitate to contact Chairman Smith's office @ (760)891-3500.
Thanks. Robert H. Smith Chairman
On behalf of the Executive Committee
Pala Band of Mission Indians.
Can anyone verify Pala Casino closure?
@ R&R yes it is closed up as of tonight 3/20/20.
Thank you 😊
If Pala Casino is closed then why was Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto escorted in this morning by Casino Security
around 11:30.
I am sure that they weren't there for lunch.
A photo will be sent to the blogs soon showing them being escorted into the side entrance as soon as i can send it to the blogs.
saw a armored truck (the kind that hauls money) pulling into the hotel parking entrance around 12:30 p.m. Thought it was a little odd but now it makes sense.
Someone should have capped both of those greedy bastards.
They are just protecting the tribe's money. Never know who might try to steal it.
Their motto is it is better to receive than to give.
Now we will all see the lies that were told to tribal members a meetings about our investments.
At one meeting i remembers the members asked what would happen if the Casino ever had to close down for some unexpected reason and Nieto response was that there was enough money in reserve and in investments that the members would still get paid each month for at least a year.
So we will see what happens when they say all per capita to its members will stop until the Casino reopens.
Are all of you Smith and Nieto backers going to still think that they are your gods.
Remember this coming year is election year for Smith and Nieto's seats.
If they were smart they would liquidate some assets now before its to late.
Sell the Roberts Ranch property, sell the Pala Gateway property near the freeway.
These properties are not making any money for the tribe.
Stop all investing for at least 18 months now before it to late.
I am willing to bet that they will cancel the meeting for
the 14th of April because they are afraid that they won't be able to answer these question.
You say these assets aren't making money for the tribe, but Smith and Nieto are profiting and reporting them as an expense. They will suspend per-capita before selling the assets.
People always ask questions, but if they aren't on the agenda, and they never are, the EC won't answer them. They will probably cancel the meeting just because it is the right thing to do when social distancing is recommended. Funny to say the Pala EC will do the right thing. It's okay. They are sure to do the wrong thing behind the scenes.
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To say that Trump doesn't like Native Americans was confirmed in today's news.
He has ordered the Sect. of the Interior to take away the status of being a reservation from the Mashpee
wampanoag tribe. He ordered the Interior Sect. to
disestablish the Tribe and to take their land out of trust.
He doesn't like the idea of them building a Casino near
where his has interest in a couple of Casino's near their
reservation so he has ordered the Sect. of the Interior to disestablish their reservation which they have been a tribe for over 400 years.
Thank You EC! $
Everyone needs to remember and speak up. The per cap we get paid for March is from revenues earned in December. Remember that we are always three months behind on per cap. This was said at several meetings by both Robert and nieto. If they don't have the money then where did it go. Also, if there is no money for per cap then all services must shut down. You can't have money for one part of the distribution plan and no money for the other parts. time to hold the hold the EC's feet to the fire.
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BREAKING NEWS IN PALA
THE SHERIFFS SWAT TEAM IS AT ROB SMITHS DAUGHTERS HOUSE
ON CHUTNICUT RD AND JUST THROUGH A SMOKE BOMB THROUGH HER WINDOW.
THIS IS THE SAME DAUGHTER THAT WAS INVESTIGATED BEFORE AND THE ONE THAT HAD THE WEAPONS AND DRUGS IN HER CAR.
I saw her getting handcuffed by the swat some sheriffs outside her house.
Now this is a direct threat to the Reservation and its members and action should be taken against her for her actions and it doesn't matter if she is Robert Smiths daughter or not.
I think she is Mike Lucio's daughter.
Banish her from Pala and take her home away along with her per capita payments.
That's what Rob did to other members who have done less
harm.
Heard she was harboring some bad people in her "TRIBAL HOME".
Robert will probably bulldoze it and build her a new one
so there won't be any trace of bad people .
You know like he did Boles house that had evidence of his daughter being involved with that crime done there.
I doubt that she will ever learn her lesion as long as big daddy Rob is in charge.
Hopefully after Smith is dead and gone a new chairman will remembers these action being done by Robs daughter and disenroll her and banish her for life from Pala.
I dont know about U guys but I'm scared ! This Covid 19 is getting too close too home ! We need every single one of us to start praying. If you haven't taught your kids how to Pray, now would be a good time !
Can I get an AMEN from 1 person in Pala or do I need to say something ugly about someone or Bitch about something ?
unknown 5:51pm: AMEN AND GOD BLESS YOU!
ROBERT SMITH AND THERESA NIETO ARE STILL ASSHOLES.
AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN.
@5:51 PM
IT'S NOT SAYING UGLY, IT'S TELLING THE TRUTH. AMEN.
Fuck pala.i hope it shuts down for good.the worse fucking tribe ever.greedy and can careless about pala casino employees.The casino is a mess with horrible managers its the blind leading the blind.suffer go back to having nothing.
SPECIAL PRAYERS FOR 12:06.🙏
@ 12:06 AM
It's not Pala as a whole it's the people running the Tribe that are causing all the problems in Pala.
You may know them, Mr. Robert "pig face" Smith and
Theresa "owl face" Nieto.
Get rid of these two and things will be good again for all.
Maybe rethink that. Pala has lost its conscience. Tribal members have participated in the corruption. Who can say now that they opposed the Pala EC and worked to make things good again? No stand up people in Pala. The money now supersedes honesty, ethics, and decency.
Who can say differently?
Exactly, there are so many Tribal members who participated right along with Robert and Theresa because of the "perks" they received. Some used their advantage to enroll children who don't have the required blood quantum, use tribal equipment for personal reasons, the list is ridiculous. The sad part is that it's a couple families involved. Hopefully we can get those 2 out of office (as long as the voting isn't rigged like usual). First thing is get rid of the property we've been consistently losing money on, get rid of those damn jets , the online gambling site, make a motion that the EC is NOT allowed to make any investments without GC approval, do dna on ALL enrolled Tribal members to ensure that they do have the blood to be enrolled, last but not least make a motion that Robert Smith, Theresa Nieto can NEVER run for office again, nor their children. And if they are proven they stole money and/or property from the Tribe, be banned permanently from Pala and disenrolled for not protecting their Tribal members and Tribe.
That sounds very good.
However i think we have a better chance at surviving the coronavirus than we do getting these two corrupt virus holders out.
Our only hope is that Karma will get them infected with
Corona, and i don't mean beer.
Just think of all the guy's that Smith will infect by kissing them on the lips.
And Nieto is so good at spreading lies that she should not have any trouble spreading CoronaVirus to her loved ones and her friends that kiss her ass.
Get off this site effen troll.
Yes please get your fucken ass off of this site you asshole.
Go have a bowl of Covid stew at Macarro's Cafe.
Now is a good time to sit and think about the Pala children who have been taken from their native families and placed in non native families by our Social Service Director a non native, marriage and family therapist in charge of the children of Pala, our future as a tribe. Chairman put Season Goodpasture (Lattin) (Brown) in charge of our future. She places the children with her "friends" as foster parents and allows them to adopt our kids in adoptions that allow them to still benefit from enrollment but without any actual family ties to our tribe. Chairman and Season are heavily involved with ICWA groups yet do not follow the rules and requirements involved with following the laws of ICWA because Chairman does what Chairman wants.
9:40AM is right. I was reading my letter from Theresa Nieto and she says there will be no income to fund per capita. Yes we are paid from the earnings of the previous quarter so what happened to the money? Because of the virus we cant even have a tribal meeting to ask Smith and Nieto what happened to our money. Think about it. A full quarter of per capita is missing. That is more than $24 million dollars that is missing. $24 MILLION DOLLARS IS MISSING FROM OUR TRIBAL ACCOUNT.
I am going to talk to someone with the IRS tomorrow afternoon on the phone and give them a copy of the plan and ask what we should do.
Or better yet what they are going to do.
I have a 1:45 phone appointment for the call with an agent and a 15 minute time to give my concerns.
I will let the people know what was said if the IRS allows me to do so.
Too 6:57.
I'm sad to say that some of our kids are better off living with someone other than there families ! Think about it and be true to your feelings.
Why the IRS? They deal with taxes. Per Capita distribution is regulated by the NIGC and the BIA. Just don't hold your breath waiting for either of these agencies to enforce regulations.
The NIGC has little power to enforce gaming regulations. It exists mostly to approve tribal gaming ordinances and make sure that gaming establishments file audited financial reports.
The BIA is owned by Robert Smith. They report to him. You will be told that you lack standing as an individual Indian to challenge any Pala EC decisions. Only the General Council has the authority to challenge EC decisions, but then the BIA only has relations with elected officials.
This Catch-22 comes to you all through the caring and concerned US federal government that cares a lot about tribal termination and is concerned that it isn't happening fast enough.
Thank You again E.C. and Tribal Employees for the Care Package and for keeping us safe on the road. GOD BLESS all of you! HAPPY EASTER!
@ 1:15 PM
It's more like a "WE DON'T CARE PACKAGE".
And keeping us safe on the road you say, shit we can't even get out Pala for food or medical supplies.
We go through this about every other year of rain.
The EC should have made a deal with the state and local governments to have bridges built at these same flooded locations in Pala.
But no they will spend thousands of dollars trying to fix non fixable dips in the roads that keep us confined to the reservation.
So yes thank you EC for turning your backs on the reservation people that you are supposed to keep safe and out of harms way AGAIN.
Stop donating to these fake county and federal governments and watch how fast they start doing their jobs for the better.
Don't eat the Turkey lunch meat It's expired months ago! Thank God I rinsed the meat off before freezing it.
Dont let the door hit you where the Good lord split you ! In other words " Go, Please Go "
So quit blaming others for your stupidity. If this happens all the time LEAVE! Quit nursing off the tribe and expecting them to take care of your Dumb Ass. Dont let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
Your the one with a stupidity problem by supporting an EC that has proven without doubt that they are full of shit.
From buying houses boats and cars to waiting in food lines. Yes be ever grateful to smith and nieto. After all think of all the expenses they have in order to maintain all the property they bought with money they have stolen. I'm so glad I don't have that problem. Thank you smith and Nieto for sparing us from enjoying our money. A special thanks for distributing the casino food before it spoiled and not just throwing it in the trash. Must have been really difficult for you guys to finally decide to help the tribe. Or is it that you couldn't sell the food on ebay.
Time to go back to the Government cheese,All who did not speak up about the diserollmemts Karma is a bitch!
Yes it is and all the ugly you are spewing out is not helping you get reenrolled. The evil that you send out into the world comes right back at you. No wonder you haven’t had success.
The reason that we have no had any success is because smith and nieto are afraid that they will be exposed for what they are.
They have proven that they have spent the reserve money that was supposed to a invested for the people in case of an emergency like we are going through right now.
Where is the reserve funds? Where is the interest that was paid by bank accounts, where is the money from the house payments made by members for their homes.
Where is the money that has been collected for rental properties owned by PBMI.
Where is the money that was taken for the Warner Springs
purchase, it was twenty million dollars.
Where is the money collected for the sold vehicles that we owned.
Really people are you that trusting of the EC not to answer these question with proof and not lies.
How many repo's will there be in the near future because members can't meet their obligations to the financial institutions for their homes and cars/trucks.
The list goes on and on, but who cares right.
Should have listened before when votes actually counted.
P/S,
Why is the GM at the Casino still being paid if he is not working.
Why is the EC still getting paid through this virus shut down including their full per capita checks.
Why are Smiths daughters still getting their full per capita amount.
Why is smiths daughter still able to live in her home after being a direct threat to the reservation.
I tell you why, because you all are to chickenshit to stand up to them and that why they continue to do as they please.
HAPPY EASTER TOO EVERYONE ! HE HAS RISEN !🙏
@9:21pm it's sad to think you believe our kids are better off living off the reservation with white families in foster care.
7:36 why single out the Smith daughters still getting their per cap check.
So has the EC announced their contingency plan? Will the administration budget be reduced, will there be some layoffs of Pala employees, or maybe a reduction in per capita payments? Will the private jets be grounded? Will Pala Interactive be forced to operate without supplemental funds from the PBMI?
A responsible leader would prepare a plan for downsizing in a time of extreme circumstances. Nearly all of the tribe's revenue comes from the Casino which is shut down. How will it possible to do the same thing after the closure as before the closure?
The house of cards built by Smith and Nieto is about to tumble down. How will they keep up with the bribes that enables their corruption without consequences? The officials of the BIA Pacific Regional Office and Southern California Agency depend on the flow of income from Smith to prop up their own high lifestyles. Will they have to go without for a time?
There are payments that have to made to financial institutions for the loans guaranteed by casino revenue. Hope those institutions are willing to forgive some payments because of the pandemic.
As the Chinese curse says: "May you live through interesting times."
@ 2:15
Because no other members are getting their full amount
and what makes them so special.
May it is because they need the extra money to harbor bad people and for their drug habits.
Kick their asses off the reservation before someone else get killed because of them.
@2:13am You need to read my post again or better yet get someone to read it to you. Some families can't take care of them selves much less take care of someone else. Like you who cant read and be honest.
But you have the blood. Not like the disenrolled. Chairman Porky will provide. Right? I mean all good things for Pala come from the EC. They have money set aside so all the true people will not suffer. That is why all support them.
@2:13 is correct. Some of the families can barely take care of themselves, they have kids yet have others raise them.
it's sad how so many blame the EC for not having money and for overspending. How many of you complaining have actually saved up and are prepared for this pandemic? We've all seen how you have all thrown your money away on alcohol, drugs, expensive cars, brand name clothes and so forth. There are very few who are still humble but most. Most of the younger generation does not know what work is and were depending on that monthly precap check and they act like they own the world. They don't even go to school to further their education. There is a saying "You can get everything taken away, but one thing no one can ever take away is your education"
Hey, it's all good. Tribal members should have saved some money just in case. I know I am a terrible person because I got disenrolled, but my savings carried me through three years. I even got a job, heaven forbid, and learned new skills so I could survive.
Anyway, blaming tribal members because the Pala EC didn't have the foresight to prepare for hard times seems somewhat ignorant. Robert Smith sent a letter to the BIA in 2008 bragging about a $141 million dollar surplus invested in high yield securities. I think he was letting the BIA know there was plenty of bribe money available, but what do I know?
All I can say is that the surplus is gone, the casino is closed, there is no plan in place to get through the pandemic, and the EC is handing out care packages.
What is wrong with this picture?
All about the government cheeze for you idiots who did not stand up for the disenrolled,or thats right you all can claim tribal sovereignty like you fearless leaders have done and the path they have lead you down.Karma is a bitch
We have survived and have jobs will you?
Does anyone know how the Native Stimulas checks are being handled?
The economic stimulus package earmarks $2.2 billion for tribes, of which $1 billion is intended for health care and medical services. Some of the money provided is supposed to pay essential tribal employees, and some is reimbursement for funds already spent due to the pandemic. There is also money provided for unemployment benefits, and housing.
No native stimulus checks are mentioned in the bill. Indians will be eligible for the $1200 per person stimulus checks being sent out to taxpayers who filed in 2018 and 2019 and earned less than $75,000 a year as reported on their income tax statement. Or if married filing jointly $2400 for those earning less than $150,000 per year.
So in other words you sheep, are shit out of luck!should have learn to budget,it's strange that you are asking for a stimulus check from us government,when you always seem to be claiming Tribal Soverignity.Ask your Ec for help!
Many tribal members forgot what it is to have an actual job and have depended on precap for so many years. If they do not have savings it is there own fault. Where is this pandemic going to lead all of those who only have precap as a source of income? Is it going to go back to the old days where people were at the Pala Store asking for change? This is the time for everyone to think about that saying "Money not earned can be taken away easily, where as money earned will not be able to be taken as easily"
I invite all to come to my blog...I've put posts up on those who may suffer from loss of per capita:
https://www.originalpechanga.com/2020/04/pechanga-casino-shutdown-threatens.html
and another to the BIA and government...
https://www.originalpechanga.com/2020/03/open-letter-to-bia-senate-and-house-of.html
Too10:27 !
I asked if anyone knew how it was being handled DUMBASS ! I'm not even a Native just like you. I can tell your not Native because you would be concerned for your Family and Elders like a true native would. So go back too the hole you crawled out from. What an IDIOT !
Maybe this will show how big a liars that Smith and Nieto are.
Can't wait to hear the lies that they will tell at the next meeting,whenever that will be.
If they cancel one more meeting then they are all out.
I think that the tribes constitution says something about missing 3 meetings in a row and your out.
Does anyone know how Pala Interactive is doing ?
This is called karma. Any of you inbred fools familiar with the term?
It's what happens after years of harboring rapists, pedophiles, drug dealers, murderers, and thieves. You received all of that money for almost 20 years and what do you all have to show for it? A casino with locked doors and a dusty ass Escalade parked in front of your trailer. You're leader is a rapist who married his cousin. His brother is a drug dealer and his children are all inbred. Don't believe me? Try to have an intelligent conversation with them, you'll immediately see that something just ain't right.
His VC beat the hell out of his wife and kids and now one of them is locked in a cage somewhere in Arizona while he sleeps next to his dead brother's wife. He barely had a high school education yet he was given the fire department to run as he saw fit. He hired ex junkies to be his staff yet they aren't qualified to lead the people who do all the work. Look around you. None of us are perfect, but Pala has a long history of embracing morally corrupt people, and you wonder why the reservation is in the state that it's in. While other tribes, like Viejas barona and sycuan, contribute to the surrounding communities,greedy pala wanted to horde all of that loot for a select few. So much so that you started to eat your own. People you grew up with and went to school with were thrown out of their homes because they apparently didn't meet a fictional standard that was invented by the white man. After all of those years you all grew accustomed to money every month that you didn't have to lift a finger for. Now it's gone and no one cares. Can't say I blame them. Enjoy the grave you all dug for yourselves. Maybe the government will show pity once again on the poor uneducated savages of pala.
Hold you Chairman and your Tribal treasurer accountable
for your per capita cut.
After all it was your Chairman that stated that there was enough money in a reserve account to pay the members in case something happened and the Casino had to shut down for some reason.
Ask them about all the other money that was coming in from other investments and interest accounts on the tribes banking accounts.
Only ask them if you want to see and hear them lie to your faces AGAIN.
According to some good info from a good source Nieto and Smith both said that the members don't need their full per capita right now because they couldn't spend it anyway with the lock down in place.and they also said get a job to the cry babies.
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Pala now has 2 confirmed cases of the corona virus.
No it's not Smith or Nieto YET.
But with any kind of luck!!!!!!!!!!!
When will pala open back up?also will there be layoffs?
i heard that they are planning a reopening date of
May 20th.
But you know how rumors are.
Well, whomever "they" are, they are clearly idiots. Think of all the people that come to Pala Casino and that you may come across. It takes one person to spread the virus, and if you are lucky enough to not come across that person, perhaps a staff member will come across him. Patient zero will then spread it to lucky recipient number one, and that person will maybe serve you food or give you change or hug you, welcoming you back. Or, someone will spit, you will step on that spittle and bring it home. Your kids or grandkids will run across the floor barefoot and then maybe touch their feet and face. Just think of it. No, this cant happen in Pala! Well the WHO just announced yesterday was the deadliest day in the United States, so is the curve trending downward? Not yet. Additionally, taking care of the community means keeping it safe. If the Chairman decides to allow the casino to reopen, it would be very irresponsible. But if money is your number one concern, and not the safety of your family, friends and community, then I understand why he will make this choice, especially since it's an election year! Got to keep your members who are money dependent happy, money, money, money! That's all Pala cares about. Why else would that pig continue to be elected each time he runs! Well, I hope it's just a rumor.
I agree with the above poster. Yes, I enjoyed a night out once in a while to play or go out to dinner, and yes socialize, however....mine and my loved ones health and safety comes first. A casino is a breeding ground for this damn virus. Your bored or need money, plenty of places are hiring right now.
I hope no one thinks that the casino reopening means it will instantly have large crowds, lots of gambling, and lots of money to distribute to members. Many people are hurting because of business closures, layoffs, and reduced income. Hiring back all the laid off staff will take time. The restaurants will have to restock food and supplies that were tossed due to spoilage. There may actually be restrictions like social distancing that limit the number of people allowed in the casino.
Then of course there is Smith and Nieto who will most likely milk the reopening for all its worth to make up for the lost skimming during the closure. And the Pala EC may delay restoring full per capita as long as possible thinking that the members will be happy just to hear that the casino is reopening and they will get full per capita soon.
Hey, it is an election year. The lies will be flowing, the pandemic will be the scapegoat, and Pala members can rest assured that Chairman Porky has had his best interests at heart throughout the time of turbulence.
Sounds like you know EVERYTHING!
Sounds like you know NOTHING!
Will there be lay offs once pala opens?
NO way
No way?less people coming in plus the fact restaurants cant seat full capacity.how will there be no lay offs?
A third of the employees at Pala are fake names so Smith and Nieto can collect wages as employees at Pala.
Pechanga is set to open up the Casino next Friday and so is one other in the east county of san diego.
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I doubt Pechanga will reopen Casino next Friday. They did open Journey and their RV Park, but employees haven't been recalled yet.
several other casinos have posted re-open info on their web sites, already..
I heard pala cant afford to open.lay-off if they do.
1207 had it right. PECHANGA isn't opening next Friday, but instead they a announced they would open June 1st. In your face 807!
We should hear something later this week...0ther local casinos have posted opening dates and safety procedures for employees & guests ...
Word is that Pala will open the week of the 20th.
Word is 5-22
Good, I have 2 dollars and 55 cents burning a hole in my pocket!!! Can't wait to play the 55 cents and have a 2 dollar happy hour beer with Robert Smith at the bar
Will I need a mask?
Yes you will need a mask, you don't want to catch swine flu on top of the corona virus
NO secret now
employee training on 5.20
Why so soon?will people even come.
Gamblers cant help it
They MUST come
only variable is: how many at first ...
Here we go!
tomorrow is the big day..
YEEEAAAHHH🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
WELL? who was there for re-opening today ?
any thoughts IF pala employees will get xmas gift this year?
The cat is out of the bag, now
several departments at the casino have people out with covid. NO covering this up ..
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