In 1903 the Agua Caleinte Cupeno were removed from their ancestral tribal home, the Village of Kupa also known as Warner's Hot Springs. The Cupeno were forced onto the Pala Indian Reservation. This is known as the Cupeno Trail of Tears.
On June 1st, 2011 and February 1st, 2012 162 Warner Ranch Evictee Agua Caliente Cupeno were removed from the PBMI Association by the Pala Enrollment Committee. This is our Second Trail of Tears.
It's going to get more confusing before it gets clearer. Most of these documents have been posted over and over. We will continue to post more.
You have to go back to 1994 when the first vote to amend the Articles to the Constitution actually did not garner enough votes. I don't remember all the BIA rules but basically to Amend the Articles required 50% of the tribe to participate in the election with I think 2/3 required to vote in favor in order to pass. I could be wrong on that percentage, I don't recall off-hand.
In 1994 the vote actually failed to pass even though soon after Pala started using the word Constitution instead of Articles.
From 1995 to 1997 Pala worked with the BIA to draft a Constitution.
Somewhere along the line rather than have the people vote on it in a General Election they just called a meeting and passed it 27 to 0. But you have to check the dates.
I'll post more documents in the coming days. It is very confusing even to me and we have been looking at this stuff for years. A lot of it has been submitted as evidence in various courts as well as to the BIA.
"Robert Smith you are so busted. Your constitution is not approved and therefore Pala is still under the Articles of Association. The real truth is that the special meeting on November 19, 1997 was the budget meeting not a meeting called to approve the constitution. Special meetings have to be a single item agenda and the item for the 19th was the budget. "
Yes, 50% participation, 2/3 majority required as specified in the Articles of Association to pass an amendment. BIA responded that each amendment required a vote and Secretarial approval. BIA recommended a revised governing document. This is not what the GC voted for. A Constitution was drafted and submitted. BIA made recommendations in the technical review, retype the draft and incorporated the changes. This revised Constitution was never submitted to the GC for review. That is the document RS said was approved in 1994, and again in NOV 1997.
I'm telling you Robert Smith and his two partners, Theresa J Nieto and Amy Duschke are 3 of the rottenest apples in the barrel. They just got caught with their hands in each others pants on this one concerning the fake CONSTITUTION of PBMI. Three pies in the oven. I wonder what the Department of Justice thinks of the Honorable Robert Smith now after they received the latest evidence on the fake Constitution that was sent to them certified mail and signed for today at 1:37 pm.
The old EC stated that the Articles of Assoc. were not amended in any way then why does the fake Constitution have so many changes. These is what I was talking about earlier about the EC getting the people at the meetings to approve their so called and never bringing the final wording back to the General Membership for a final vote. They always add or delete shit because this is one way that they get away with screwing the people.
If this so called Constitution was valid then why did Robert Smith and the EC sign the first Tribal compact for the Casino stating that the Tribe was Governed by the ARTICLES of ASOCIATION instead of TRIBAL CONSTITUTION ?
Letter sent by Robert Smith to Francis Muncy on July 18, 2000
We have received the fax from the Bureau, of the Pala Constitution that was passed in 1997. We received comments from the Area Office and now the Pacific Regional Office. We decided not to incorporate those comments; we voted and passed the Constitution, which was submitted to the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Southern California Agency. We would like to have it approved immediately, since it bas been 2 years or more.
So if you are not confused yet let me help make it worse. All the 1997 Resolution did was reaffirm the approval of the constitution that was voted on in 1994.
Here is the language from the 1997 resolution:
WHEREAS, on November 22, 1994 the Pala General Council· in the General Election of the Tribe voted to revise the Pala Tribal Articles of Association into the Pala Tribal Constitution.
Now then what does this really mean. It means that the revised constitution that was approved by the BIA is not the 1994 constitution and also realize that Robert Smith, without tribal consultation, rejected the revisions and demanded that the 1994 constitution be approved.
So what is the 1994 constitution? If you take the language of the 1997 resolution the 1994 constitution is the Articles of Association with the name simply changed to read constitution. So the reality is we are still operating under the Articles of Association and Robert Smith and his cronies have nor had any authority to disenroll anyone. So, take it to the meeting, the BIA, Congress, the Secretary of the Interior and let the world know what is going on here. Remember again the BIA has already determined that Margarita Britten is full blood and the disnerollees should have not been disenrolled. The authority to approve the tribes membership role is back ind the hands of the BIA. The opportunity is now to get this mess straightened out. Don't blow it.
The EC should just automatically put the brittians back on the rolls. It is ridiculous that they were taken off. Puta end to this. This constitution stuff is the icing on the cake. Put the 1/16th brittians back on the rolls
Are you not listening? The BIA said the diserollments are an internal tribal matter and that they won't intervene. The Court agreed that membership decisions are protected by Santa Clara Pueblo v Martinez and that the BIA was correct not to intervene. The Court also ruled that the statute of limitations expired on appeal to the approval of the Pala Constitution, and that the Court would not overturn the Constitution because it would mean interfering with internal trial affairs.
At this point it is very clear that the Pala Constitution was never approved by the General Council. The so-called General Council meeting of NOV 1997 where there was a vote to approve the Constitution by 27 to 0 was not valid. It requires a General Election with over 50% of the enrolled members voting and a 2/3 majority vote to approve amendments to the governing document.
The BIA retyped the draft of the Pala Constitution and incorporated their recommendations. The General Council never saw this document. We don't even know if the Nov 1997 meeting ever happened because there was no agenda and no minutes of the meeting. At this point it appears that Robert Smith submitted a resolution to the BIA that the General Council had no part in.
He has spent the last 20 years perpetrating lies and fraud so it is not some kind of false allegation to say that this resolution is fraudulent. The General Council has allowed itself to be stripped of power. They let RS control the agenda, ban members from meetings, holding office, or voting. He decides who gets enrolled. He makes all financial decisions. He disenrolled the Brittain descendants who clearly have the blood, and keeps Lugo and Lavato descendants on the roll when they do no meet the blood degree standard.
PBMI is Robert Smith's sock puppet. The Pala Resort and Casino is his piggy bank. The BIA is his bitch. The San Diego Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office are in his pocket. The local newspapers won't print the truth because RS threatens to pull advertisement if the say bad things about PBMI.
This is the current state of affairs. Look at the glorious pig you Pala members bow to.
You are the one not listening. If the Constitution is not valid then the original enrollment ordinance is still in effect as well as the Articles of Association. So yes the BIA can get involved because the Articles and the ordinance require BIA approval of the roles.
The big question is what triggered the necessity for the 1997 resolution to be amended and why. The why is simple. The only reason this action is necessary means that the BIA is not recognizing the approval of the constitution. If this is true and it is then the statute of limitations clock should begin to run again and a new case brought before the court but first all other remedies have to be satisfied. So even if smith gets the people to amend the resolution the BIA should be challenged and all the facts brought forth and if the BIA decides in the negative then the door should be wide open for the courts to get involved.
It really provides an opportunity to provide all of the facts and we do have the facts. There is a new BIA and they might listen this time. So it is time for you to start listening and climb out of the hole you have dug for yourself. Look out and see the sun for a change. This is a gift horse and I intend to ride it.
The statute of limitations is on the BIA approval of the Pala Constitution, not on PBMI approval. The BIA would have to revoke the approval of the Pala Constitution in order to revert to the Articles. If that were to happen there would be lots of actions taken by the EC under authority of the Constitution that would have to be reviewed. BIA is better at avoiding work than at helping tribes fix problems. A very unlikely turn of events in my estimation.
A faster way to fix things is for the General Membership to somehow get on the Agenda and fix the disenrollment issue and then vote to fix the Constitution issue. And do not let the EC bully anyone into believing that this is just a mistake in the dates on the so called Constitution. I believe that the EC has been aware of this issue for a long time and has never acted on a fix because the disenrollments would be null and void and they were trying to find a way to keep the disenrolled members from being able to vote on any of these issues because with these extra votes the out come would be different. So instead of living in limbo just demand your rights as tribal members and move forward.
Remember when the tribes website which was downloaded by the Attorney stated that the Tribes was governed by the Articles of Association and then the EC discovered their mistake by not changing their web page suddenly took the website down until they could try to find a way to cover their fuckup. This was after the disenrollments took place. And also the EC along with Smith signed the new Gamming Compact stating that the Tribe was governed by the Articles of Association and there was no mention of a Constitution.
What a fucking "RETARD" Robert Smith is, who's real last name is actually Schmitt according to some of his Ancestors background. Like his full blooded Grandfather Henry Smith as documented in the Sherman Indian School. Even his Grandmother used the name Annie Smith while in Sherman instead of Morro. Were his Grandparents actually brother and sister ????????????????????
His mother can't have the bloodline that he claims either because she didn't know who her father was. Which means his blood degree is not enough to be enrolled in Pala along with his kids. I think that his mothers dad was Frank Lacusa aka as the Rubber Man. Also aka Frankie Joe. Ay least that's what I remembers as a young man growing up in Pala for nearly 75 years ago.Frank was from either Rincon or Mesa Grande.
It is unreal how much coverage this Royal Wedding shit gets. How about the "ROYAL FUCKING" that we are getting from the Royal ASSHOLES that are supposed to protect us from corruption and using us for their own greed. No coverage at all, people just don't give a shit about these rouge so called leaders that kill off true Native American people for there own personal gain. That is really sad, but who cares just cover all this Royal wedding bullshit and turn a blind eye to the real problems. I personally would like to stick a Royal Sword up their Royal Asses and see how they would like it.
If in fact this so called Constitution is not valid then wouldn't the BIA have the power to put the Britten's back on the Pala Rolls whether the EC likes it or not? By the tribes not having a valid Constitution means that they are still governed by the Articles of Associations and therefore all enrollment or disenrollments are in the hands of the BIA. Give up the straight answers.
The Court already ruled that despite some irregularities in the approval process, the Court could not overturn the Constitution because it is an internal tribal matter and protected by Santa Clara Pueblo v Martinez. The only way the Constitution gets overturned is if an appeal is filed with the IBIA by PBMI members, or if the General Council votes to revoke it.
I am talking about the BIA, they are the ones that were getting sued not the tribe. They stated under oath that the tribes Constitution was adopted on certain dates and that was one of the reasons that the court ruled against the defendants. The PBMI were not a party to the suit, only the BIA.
I agree. The members should revoke the Constitution. Normally it would be a repeal, but since it is invalid it should be revoked. Don't get confused over the BIA approval vs. The PBMI approval. BIA approved the Pala Constitution once and made it retroactive. PBMI never approved the Constitution, but issued a resolution saying it was approved in 1994, and adopted in 1997.
I am glad to see this continue in the court system. However I agree with 9:59. You need to go to a meeting and not ask but demand that your relatives get put back on the rolls. Robert does not own pala. You are cupeno no matter what Robert says. Same with the BIA you don't ask them anything. You tell them. It doesn't matter what Robert does or says he can't change who you are.
I guess no one is paying attention. PBMI is a Luiseno tribe. It is listed on the Federal Register as the Pala Band of Mission Indians, formerly listed as the Pala Band of Luiseno Mission Indians. The Pala General Council voted for this name change according to the resolution filed by the Pala EC. So those PBMI members who used to be Cupeno are now Luiseno, and so are the Cahuilla members and Diegueno members, as well as the members who really don't have much Indian blood but were enrolled in PBMI by Robert Smith because he wanted enough votes to win elections and just about anything else in Pala.
So all the talk about Cupenos in the PBMI is moot. There are no Cupenos in the PBMI. The Agua Caliente Cupeno Tribe has withdrawn from the PBMI, the GC banned the Cupeno leaders, and the Pala EC disenrolled the Britten descendants. Actually it might end up being a good thing. Now the Cupeno people can move forward without the harassment of the Lavatos, Lugos, and Old Pala descendants.
The Warner's Ranch Indians, so long the majority in Pala, the people who led, governed, and brought everyone together, now must go their own way. The Pala EC felt threatened by King Freeman and Wille Pink's efforts to expose their corruption and weak PBMI members believed their lies. The fear that they will be the next to lose everything if they don't kowtow to Smith has made them all weak. Change is in the wind, and it has very little to do with the Pala Constitution.
Fuck Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto we are ready to fight your no win battle. Just try and fuck with my family and you will be history. Everyone is so sick of your bullshit and controlling the members of Pala with your sneaky no vote needed agenda. I will never understand why the Feds are allowing this kind of treatment on people that they are supposed to protect. Why hasn't the Sheriffs Dept. investigated any of the crimes that have been made against the Pala EC members. Why are the FBI turning a blind eye to the civil abuses that the EC is inflecting on these people. There has to be some kind of justice before someone snaps and does something to settle this in the wrong way but there seems to be no help seen in the near future.
Looks like Robert or one of his daughters has a Tesla now. It’s parked at his old house in Pala. WoW how do they keep getting so many new cars all the time? Well when you have access to all the tribes money.
Wait until you see what he has hidden in that big garage that he had built in his yard. How many cars and motorcycle he has stored in there along with Tribal records that prove his guilt of corruption over the years. He will set it on fire if he suspects any kind of snooping going on. I remember about 2-3 years ago a transporter truck carrying about 4-5 cars unloaded those vehicles at his house and are more than likely in that garage along with a couple of Harley motorcycles that used to on display at the Casino. But fuck it right it's okay, it's only tribal funds just like the property that Goodpasture was supposedly bought before the Tribe had a chance to buy it that used to belong bin part to Victor Smith, Roberts dad. It was passed at a meeting that any property that was being offered for sale with in the Reservation was supposed to offered to the Tribe first before any sale to anyone else. But screw it it's okay because it's Robert Smith. Well just fuck you Robert Smith you big tub of SHIT.
At least now we know that Willy Pink and King Freeman were telling the truth about Robert Smith and his corruption. I hope that there is a way to get them back at the meetings because they both have the best interest of the entire Tribe at hand. Not like Smith and Nieto and Perez who only are out to screw the members for their own agenda. And they are not even part of the CUPENO bloodline. We need new leadership in the Tribe, someone that can be a real leader and has the best interest of the entire Tribe and not just thugs.
Also someone that is not afraid to clean house on tribal employees also because some of the employees are just there to collect a paycheck and don't work. They sign in and find a place to sleep the rest of the day. Or use the Tribal vehicles to do things for them self's. And patrol areas that have nothing to do with the Reservation, unless they are protecting someone that has something to hide, like a dead body or ????????????????.
I have been in several stores where when they learn I am a Pala member start talking about Robert Smith. Temecula Motorsports for one. "Oh,do you know Robert Smith? He is in here all the time. He uses his black credit card and has bought several ATV's. Another one was the car restoration center next to Smog Star in Murrietta. I was asking about a 60's-ish pick up and they told me it belonged to Robert Smith and that they had restored several cars for him. Again they mentioned the black credit card. So what is the black credit card? A black credit card has no spending limit and is like paying cash straight up. So Robert Smith goes around using the tribe's black credit card paying for all of his expensive habits. I gave to you two names or locations to verify this story but you won't because no one really cares what Robert thief does anymore. So if you happen to venture in to a shop anywhere, go ahead and ask if Robert Smith shops there and see whether or not he has purchased the most expensive item in the store. so your right 11:34 AM. There is a lot of tribal property bought with the tribes black credit card stored in that garage. If you think casinos cant go broke just ask trump, ask AVI, ask Trump 29. Casinos can go broke and they do and pala is next. If you don't do something now all your dreams of a perfect future will be gone. I am sure Robert thief smiles every time he uses that black credit card because he knows the tribe will pay and if there is not enough money to support his habits he will just cut per capita. You own those things, those treasures in his garage, not him. But you won't do anything about it. You won't.
The tribe needs to get him out and have an audit of the tribe done. The FBI could easily go into those businesses and check the records to see if Robert purchased those items with a tribal credit card but who knows if they care enough that he is embezzling from Pala. By the way in order to have an American Express Black card you have to spend at least $250 thousand a year and we all know percap is not enough to spend that much per year. So he must be getting extra money from another source? The Pala accounts probably. Think of we had an honest chairman who didn’t steal Pala’s money then percap would be higher.
@ 8:25 PM I did just checkout your claim about Robert Smith in your statement and found it to be true about his using the Tribes credit card at these locations and also discovered that there is another couple of shops in Escondido that say the same thing about his spending habits. They say that all it takes is for him to call and say that he needs certain cars or bikes delivered and gives the card no and boom its done. It seems that he owns a lot more vehicles than we thought. Aren't these considered Tribal assets because they were purchased with tribal funds and under the Pala Band of Mission Indians?
I heard that the Feds were at the Casino this morning taking pictures of the Tribes/Smiths Monster truck for some reason. Maybe they are still investigating the misuse of Tribal funds and conversion of the Tribes assets. I truly wonder how much of the property purchased by the Tribe really went into trust for the PBMI and how much went into trust for Smith. It's and easy thing to do being that he has his twin sister working as the Regional Director aka Amy Dumbshit. It might be worth looking into.
That so called Constitution means nothing, it's just a smoke screen to fool the membership into thinking that there are rules in place. We the PBMI are still under the Articles of Association and the EC has used the so called Constitution for grounds for disenrollment. The entire membership is at risk if they let the EC get away with this kind of bullshit. Sooner or later it will be used against another family that goes against the rules of Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto. Do something about it now while its still fresh in your mind and don't let the EC change anything about the Customs and Traditions of the PBMI. Our Ancestors built this Reservation for the good of all the people and not just a few chosen ones like Smith and Nieto. The BIA even says that the Articles are still the Governing Doc's of the Pala Band of Mission Indians because they know that the documents that were submitted by the EC were forged by Smith and his crew. They are aware that there was not a special election for the adoption of a Tribal Constitution and that there was only a name change with some added rules submitted for the EC to have more power over the membership. Vote the so called Constitution down and revert back to the Articles of Association that put in place by our ANCESTORS. Take the power from the EC and put it back in the hands of the GENERAL MEMBERSHIP where it is supposed be. This move will take care of all the corruption and fraud that is spreading like cancer in our Reservation and killing off real and true Cupeno people.
Is there going to be a vote on the Constitution? Not a likely prospect. There would have to be a referendum first to call a General Election so that is two votes. The political machine at Pala is designed to prevent a referendum. The General Council would have to issue the order and the EC would have to carry out the order. Good luck on getting their cooperation.
@4:28 pm Well then make it happen. These posts are just wishful thinking and not real threats and rob and nieto know that so they could care less. Until they see action by the tribe or law it’s business as usual for them. The only time rob got scared was when a bunch of tribal members had a meeting at the church next to the Admin (since rob locked the gates early that day) and the tribe picked 1 person from each family represented to act as a interim EC until all the mess rob and nieto made was cleared up and a new council was voted in. That following Monday he called the BIA to make sure they were gonna back him and had 12 sheriff vehicles on standby by the fire station in case we did what we should have done is follow through and take over the Admin. That’s where the meeting failed was with no follow through by taking over the Admin.
So Resolution 97-36 says the Pala Constitution was adopted on 11/12/97, and that the GC voted for it on 11/19/97. This Resolution is void on its face due to this error. Robert Smith bypassed the GC and asked for a correction on the approval date from the BIA. The BIA cooperated with the Pala EC to conceal this error from the Band. Just so you all know about this ongoing collusion between the BIA and Robert Smith.
With this being found out the disenrollments are also void and should be corrected asap. Smith and Nieto have no authority to disenroll anyone from the Pala Membership rolls. They are very corrupt and need to be dealt with asap before they have a chance to fool the members yet again by saying that this is all a big misunderstanding and have one of their puppets make a motion to approve the fake date that they want and pass yet another scam by Robert Smith and his non CUPENO BLOOD EC. Keep your hands in your pockets at the meetings, Kyle Felt and Eric Garcia/ Ortega. These are the two main puppets that profit from Smith for their motion making skills.
The so-called Constitution for Pala is as fake and a fraud as there Tribal Chairman, Robert Smith. When he is finally out either by vote or death you all should do something about his Daughters not having the blood of the Band to be enrolled in the Pala Reservation. Just kick them to the curb and take everything from them that they received from Pala by fraud. Including their homes there cars and their income and healthcare. Turnabout is fair play. They can blame their beloved Dad for the outcome.
I think that the General Membership should request that the following should be brought to a meeting and explain what they signed and what their belief was concerning this document. #1- Stanley Mcgarr #2- LeeAnn Hayes #3- King Freeman #4- Marcus Mojado Or have the U.S. Government depose each of them under oath to see who is lying.
It would do no good to have them deposed because everyone knows what the EC did to the Britten Family and that Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto should be prosecuted to the fullest extent for what they did on purpose to the Britten family members. They have had ample time to reverse what they did but instead have chosen to ignore the truth. So may they rot in hell for their crimes against that family and others that they purposely hurt because of their greed and hate. They can't say that they weren't warned.
This so called Constitution for the PBMI is nothing more than a smoke screen by Smith and Nieto to cover up their corruption against the mentioned family. The Britten family has done nothing to deserve this kind of punishment from the EC. Smith is just pissed off because the truth about his Mother being a thief is true. And Nieto is backing him up because she is afraid about the truth that she does not belong on the Pala Tribal Rolls, she is from Sulfar Springs / Morongo Tribe. So in order to protect her Family from being disenrolled she backs Smith and Smith backs her. They are two of the biggest frauds that ever walked this earth. Her Grandfather Stephen Lugo was always willing to tell that story of being Morongo to whom ever would listen.
If the above post is true then something needs to be done about it. I remember years ago when Steve Lugo used to tell that story and his brother Numeso Lugo used to say the same thing. Numeso was the man that was killed by Jimbo Goodpasture's Grandfather Shadow Ayala who kicked him in the head until he was gone, this took place at Irene Koles back yard next door the Harvey Ortega's house, Right behind where John Chutnicut lived. Yet Nieto still kisses Goodpastures ass.
Maybe that's why Goodpasture thinks that he can get away with the shit that he does on the Reservation. Like stealing vehicles and chopping them up for parts and using the parts to build other vehicles. That's why he has so many cargo containers on the property that he has on Pala Temecula Rd. Probably full of stolen parts. Maybe the Sheriffs Dept should talk to his ex wife being that he cheated on her with Season Brown that woman he just married. His ex wife probably knows a lot of shit about what he has gotten away with in Pala.
? Here is a question for Jimbo Goodpasture. Hey Jimbo HOW DOES KILMA TASTE. Didn't you just marry his ex old lady ? How could you do such a nasty thing like that. Don't worry she will be looking else where soon.
Someone just me that one of Goodpastures daughters wants to run for committee member this year. Neither one of his daughters even belong on the Tribal Roles. And to add more even their kids are enrolled in Pala and have Tribal ID's to prove it. How in the hell did they get enrolled in Pala.
No that’s a lie, I used to be friendly with their family and jimbo’s grandkids do not qualify for enrollment in Pala. I know for a fact cause even he would say that his grandkids couldn’t be enrolled only his kids. So if they are in fact enrolled then rob either allowed the tribe to adopt them as members or used bogus documents to make them qualify for enrollment. That’s why these people like goodpasture and others support Robert so hard core cause he keeps their family enrolled when they shouldn’t be and they know with Robert out they will lose their enrollment once we get an honest and separate enrollment committee to go through the rolls and see what the current regime has done. Also like Cindy Leal and nieto’s grandkids if they are enrolled they shouldn’t be. Nieto is 1/8 and her kids 1/16 so her grandkids do not qualify for Pala membership. I
Its not a lie, I have seen their Tribal ID's of his grandkids and it clearly states that they are enrolled members of PBMI. Someone needs to get an updated version of the PBMI roles and go through it with a fine tooth comb. But good luck on that because Smith has advised the BIA not to give any info regarding enrollment or disenrollment to anyone without the permission of the EC. The BIA also will not issue any CIBD's to any Pala Members unless approved by Smith and the EC.
Letter dated/received July 13, 2011 Robert Smith received a letter from Dept of Interior per his** requesting information for enrollment applications for the following individuals on 1928. Agency receipt of this letter was June 27,2011. The individuals for this request were named as follows: 1. Vivian Trujillo Banks 2. Esperanza Brittain Trujillo 3. Fildeo and Defredia Trujillo Magee Enclosed are copies of the 1928 applications from the 1928 California roll of Indians. Please be advised these applications do not denote tribal membership of enrollment. “That’s because Pala cannot use the 1928 California Indian rolls for enrollment purposes and the dept of Interior reminded smith of this. He requested these June 2011 and had the first disenrollment July 2011. There is also a ducument between Stan Mcgarr “Pala Secretary at the time” and Barbara Gonzales-Lyons Vice-Chair of Cahuilla where Barbara was requesting Margarita Brittain and her children’s blood degree for enrollment of their members that have Brittain blood. **The Pala Allotment Roll (PAR) approved by the secretary of Interior November 3, 1913 and the Pala census (PC) for the year 1919, show Margarita Britten to be of the following: 1. Female, (PAR), (PC) 2. Village, Kupa (PC) 3. 4/4 Degree Indian Blood (PAR) 4. All children to be 1/2 Degree Indian Blood (PAR) The (PAR) and (PC) are acknowledged by the Pala Band of Mission Indian Tribe to be true and the tribe agrees with the degree of Indian blood in these records.
No Goodpasture’s Great-Grandma was 4/4 meaning he would be 1/8 and his kids 1/16 so his grandkids 1/32 not enough to be enrolled. If you don’t believe the rumors his wife already had a daughter or kids when they hooked up so that means they have zero Cupeno blood. Hey smith/nieto opened this can of disenrollments when they changed Margarita Brittain’s blood degree from 4/4 to 1/2 and her kids 1/2 to 1/4. Both their correct blood degree is documented everywhere even on documents from Robert himself declaring MB to be 4/4 Cupeno or her kids listed as 1/2 Cupeno. Correct MB blood degree and her descendants and leave every Pala family alone. If you attack one family and lie to change their history all to disenroll a couple of them to show King and Willy who has the power you open the doors for others to question every family. Remeber there will eventually be other members in power on the EC. It may go your way for now but who knows a couple years from now??? Fix this and close this disenrollment chapter of Pala history for good so it doesn’t come after you or your family when others are on the EC.
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I'm confused? Isn't this document saying that Pala wants sovereignty and not to be under the BIA's decision?
It's going to get more confusing before it gets clearer. Most of these documents have been posted over and over. We will continue to post more.
You have to go back to 1994 when the first vote to amend the Articles to the Constitution actually did not garner enough votes. I don't remember all the BIA rules but basically to Amend the Articles required 50% of the tribe to participate in the election with I think 2/3 required to vote in favor in order to pass. I could be wrong on that percentage, I don't recall off-hand.
In 1994 the vote actually failed to pass even though soon after Pala started using the word Constitution instead of Articles.
From 1995 to 1997 Pala worked with the BIA to draft a Constitution.
Somewhere along the line rather than have the people vote on it in a General Election they just called a meeting and passed it 27 to 0. But you have to check the dates.
I'll post more documents in the coming days. It is very confusing even to me and we have been looking at this stuff for years. A lot of it has been submitted as evidence in various courts as well as to the BIA.
Also, to quote a previous commenter:
"Robert Smith you are so busted. Your constitution is not approved and therefore Pala is still under the Articles of Association. The real truth is that the special meeting on November 19, 1997 was the budget meeting not a meeting called to approve the constitution. Special meetings have to be a single item agenda and the item for the 19th was the budget. "
Yes, 50% participation, 2/3 majority required as specified in the Articles of Association to pass an amendment. BIA responded that each amendment required a vote and Secretarial approval. BIA recommended a revised governing document. This is not what the GC voted for. A Constitution was drafted and submitted. BIA made recommendations in the technical review, retype the draft and incorporated the changes. This revised Constitution was never submitted to the GC for review. That is the document RS said was approved in 1994, and again in NOV 1997.
I'm telling you Robert Smith and his two partners, Theresa J Nieto and Amy Duschke are 3 of the rottenest apples in the barrel.
They just got caught with their hands in each others pants on this one concerning the fake CONSTITUTION of PBMI.
Three pies in the oven.
I wonder what the Department of Justice thinks of the Honorable
Robert Smith now after they received the latest evidence on the fake
Constitution that was sent to them certified mail and signed for
today at 1:37 pm.
The old EC stated that the Articles of Assoc. were not amended in any way then why does the fake Constitution have so many changes.
These is what I was talking about earlier about the EC getting the people at the meetings to approve their so called and never bringing the final wording back to the General Membership for a final vote.
They always add or delete shit because this is one way that they get away with screwing the people.
Sorry I meant their so called drafts. Above post.
Thank you for explanations. :)
If this so called Constitution was valid then why did Robert Smith and the EC sign the first Tribal compact for the Casino stating that the Tribe was Governed by the ARTICLES of ASOCIATION instead of TRIBAL CONSTITUTION ?
Letter sent by Robert Smith to Francis Muncy on July 18, 2000
We have received the fax from the Bureau, of the Pala Constitution that was passed in 1997. We received comments from the Area Office and now the Pacific Regional Office. We decided not to incorporate those comments; we voted and passed the Constitution, which was submitted to the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Southern California Agency. We would like to have it approved immediately, since it bas been 2 years or more.
So if you are not confused yet let me help make it worse. All the 1997 Resolution did was reaffirm the approval of the constitution that was voted on in 1994.
Here is the language from the 1997 resolution:
WHEREAS, on November 22, 1994 the Pala General Council· in the General Election of the Tribe voted to revise the Pala Tribal Articles of Association into the Pala Tribal Constitution.
Now then what does this really mean. It means that the revised constitution that was approved by the BIA is not the 1994 constitution and also realize that Robert Smith, without tribal consultation, rejected the revisions and demanded that the 1994 constitution be approved.
So what is the 1994 constitution? If you take the language of the 1997 resolution the 1994 constitution is the Articles of Association with the name simply changed to read constitution. So the reality is we are still operating under the Articles of Association and Robert Smith and his cronies have nor had any authority to disenroll anyone. So, take it to the meeting, the BIA, Congress, the Secretary of the Interior and let the world know what is going on here. Remember again the BIA has already determined that Margarita Britten is full blood and the disnerollees should have not been disenrolled. The authority to approve the tribes membership role is back ind the hands of the BIA. The opportunity is now to get this mess straightened out. Don't blow it.
Does the BIA know about this? They should just automatically put the brittians back on the rolls.
The EC should just automatically put the brittians back on the rolls. It is ridiculous that they were taken off. Puta end to this. This constitution stuff is the icing on the cake. Put the 1/16th brittians back on the rolls
Are you not listening? The BIA said the diserollments are an internal tribal matter and that they won't intervene. The Court agreed that membership decisions are protected by Santa Clara Pueblo v Martinez and that the BIA was correct not to intervene. The Court also ruled that the statute of limitations expired on appeal to the approval of the Pala Constitution, and that the Court would not overturn the Constitution because it would mean interfering with internal trial affairs.
At this point it is very clear that the Pala Constitution was never approved by the General Council. The so-called General Council meeting of NOV 1997 where there was a vote to approve the Constitution by 27 to 0 was not valid. It requires a General Election with over 50% of the enrolled members voting and a 2/3 majority vote to approve amendments to the governing document.
The BIA retyped the draft of the Pala Constitution and incorporated their recommendations. The General Council never saw this document. We don't even know if the Nov 1997 meeting ever happened because there was no agenda and no minutes of the meeting. At this point it appears that Robert Smith submitted a resolution to the BIA that the General Council had no part in.
He has spent the last 20 years perpetrating lies and fraud so it is not some kind of false allegation to say that this resolution is fraudulent. The General Council has allowed itself to be stripped of power. They let RS control the agenda, ban members from meetings, holding office, or voting. He decides who gets enrolled. He makes all financial decisions. He disenrolled the Brittain descendants who clearly have the blood, and keeps Lugo and Lavato descendants on the roll when they do no meet the blood degree standard.
PBMI is Robert Smith's sock puppet. The Pala Resort and Casino is his piggy bank. The BIA is his bitch. The San Diego Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's office are in his pocket. The local newspapers won't print the truth because RS threatens to pull advertisement if the say bad things about PBMI.
This is the current state of affairs. Look at the glorious pig you Pala members bow to.
You are the one not listening. If the Constitution is not valid then the original enrollment ordinance is still in effect as well as the Articles of Association. So yes the BIA can get involved because the Articles and the ordinance require BIA approval of the roles.
The big question is what triggered the necessity for the 1997 resolution to be amended and why. The why is simple. The only reason this action is necessary means that the BIA is not recognizing the approval of the constitution. If this is true and it is then the statute of limitations clock should begin to run again and a new case brought before the court but first all other remedies have to be satisfied. So even if smith gets the people to amend the resolution the BIA should be challenged and all the facts brought forth and if the BIA decides in the negative then the door should be wide open for the courts to get involved.
It really provides an opportunity to provide all of the facts and we do have the facts. There is a new BIA and they might listen this time. So it is time for you to start listening and climb out of the hole you have dug for yourself. Look out and see the sun for a change. This is a gift horse and I intend to ride it.
The statute of limitations is on the BIA approval of the Pala Constitution, not on PBMI approval. The BIA would have to revoke the approval of the Pala Constitution in order to revert to the Articles. If that were to happen there would be lots of actions taken by the EC under authority of the Constitution that would have to be reviewed. BIA is better at avoiding work than at helping tribes fix problems. A very unlikely turn of events in my estimation.
A faster way to fix things is for the General Membership to somehow get on the Agenda and fix the disenrollment issue and then vote to fix the Constitution issue. And do not let the EC bully anyone into believing that this is just a mistake in the dates on the so called
Constitution.
I believe that the EC has been aware of this issue for a long time and has never acted on a fix because the disenrollments would be null and void and they were trying to find a way to keep the disenrolled members from being able to vote on any of these issues because with these extra votes the out come would be different.
So instead of living in limbo just demand your rights as tribal members and move forward.
Remember when the tribes website which was downloaded by the Attorney stated that the Tribes was governed by the Articles of Association and then the EC discovered their mistake by not changing their web page suddenly took the website down until they could try to find a way to cover their fuckup.
This was after the disenrollments took place.
And also the EC along with Smith signed the new Gamming Compact stating that the Tribe was governed by the Articles of Association and there was no mention of a Constitution.
@ 10:28pm We are saddled and ready to ride along side of you anytime you are ready.
What a fucking "RETARD" Robert Smith is, who's real last name is actually Schmitt according to some of his Ancestors background.
Like his full blooded Grandfather Henry Smith as documented in the Sherman Indian School.
Even his Grandmother used the name Annie Smith while in Sherman instead of Morro.
Were his Grandparents actually brother and sister ????????????????????
His mother can't have the bloodline that he claims either because she didn't know who her father was. Which means his blood degree is not enough to be enrolled in Pala along with his kids.
I think that his mothers dad was Frank Lacusa aka as the Rubber Man.
Also aka Frankie Joe.
Ay least that's what I remembers as a young man growing up in Pala for nearly 75 years ago.Frank was from either Rincon or Mesa Grande.
It is unreal how much coverage this Royal Wedding shit gets.
How about the "ROYAL FUCKING" that we are getting from the Royal
ASSHOLES that are supposed to protect us from corruption and using us for their own greed.
No coverage at all, people just don't give a shit about these rouge so called leaders that kill off true Native American people for there own personal gain.
That is really sad, but who cares just cover all this Royal wedding bullshit and turn a blind eye to the real problems. I personally would like to stick a Royal Sword up their Royal Asses and see how they would like it.
Also wondering who said the BIA asked for an amendment to Resolution 97-36?Better check that source on the liar meter.
If in fact this so called Constitution is not valid then wouldn't the BIA have the power to put the Britten's back on the Pala Rolls whether the EC likes it or not?
By the tribes not having a valid Constitution means that they are still governed by the Articles of Associations and therefore all enrollment or disenrollments are in the hands of the BIA.
Give up the straight answers.
The Court already ruled that despite some irregularities in the approval process, the Court could not overturn the Constitution because it is an internal tribal matter and protected by Santa Clara Pueblo v Martinez. The only way the Constitution gets overturned is if an appeal is filed with the IBIA by PBMI members, or if the General Council votes to revoke it.
I am talking about the BIA, they are the ones that were getting sued not the tribe.
They stated under oath that the tribes Constitution was adopted on certain dates and that was one of the reasons that the court ruled against the defendants.
The PBMI were not a party to the suit, only the BIA.
Custom and Tradition supersedes all. From time immemorial the adult members of the Cupeno Tribe have governed themselves orally and verbally.
It's in the Articles and the so-called Constitution.
Custom and Tradition Supersedes All! Including Robert Smith!
All The Cupeno need to do is go to a damn meeting and stand up and take back what is rightfully theirs.
We don't "appeal" to the BIA. We TELL the BIA how it is.
That is Sovereignty.
Hey Cupeno, It's Now or Never.
Stay tuned for another Court action filed in Federal Court against the BIA.
I agree. The members should revoke the Constitution. Normally it would be a repeal, but since it is invalid it should be revoked. Don't get confused over the BIA approval vs. The PBMI approval. BIA approved the Pala Constitution once and made it retroactive. PBMI never approved the Constitution, but issued a resolution saying it was approved in 1994, and adopted in 1997.
I am glad to see this continue in the court system. However I agree with 9:59. You need to go to a meeting and not ask but demand that your relatives get put back on the rolls. Robert does not own pala. You are cupeno no matter what Robert says. Same with the BIA you don't ask them anything. You tell them. It doesn't matter what Robert does or says he can't change who you are.
It's what sovereignty is all about. That's what the courts and BIA want us to do.
I guess no one is paying attention. PBMI is a Luiseno tribe. It is listed on the Federal Register as the Pala Band of Mission Indians, formerly listed as the Pala Band of Luiseno Mission Indians. The Pala General Council voted for this name change according to the resolution filed by the Pala EC. So those PBMI members who used to be Cupeno are now Luiseno, and so are the Cahuilla members and Diegueno members, as well as the members who really don't have much Indian blood but were enrolled in PBMI by Robert Smith because he wanted enough votes to win elections and just about anything else in Pala.
So all the talk about Cupenos in the PBMI is moot. There are no Cupenos in the PBMI. The Agua Caliente Cupeno Tribe has withdrawn from the PBMI, the GC banned the Cupeno leaders, and the Pala EC disenrolled the Britten descendants. Actually it might end up being a good thing. Now the Cupeno people can move forward without the harassment of the Lavatos, Lugos, and Old Pala descendants.
The Warner's Ranch Indians, so long the majority in Pala, the people who led, governed, and brought everyone together, now must go their own way. The Pala EC felt threatened by King Freeman and Wille Pink's efforts to expose their corruption and weak PBMI members believed their lies. The fear that they will be the next to lose everything if they don't kowtow to Smith has made them all weak. Change is in the wind, and it has very little to do with the Pala Constitution.
Fuck Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto we are ready to fight your no win battle.
Just try and fuck with my family and you will be history.
Everyone is so sick of your bullshit and controlling the members of Pala with your sneaky no vote needed agenda.
I will never understand why the Feds are allowing this kind of treatment on people that they are supposed to protect.
Why hasn't the Sheriffs Dept. investigated any of the crimes that have been made against the Pala EC members.
Why are the FBI turning a blind eye to the civil abuses that the EC is inflecting on these people.
There has to be some kind of justice before someone snaps and does something to settle this in the wrong way but there seems to be no help seen in the near future.
Looks like Robert or one of his daughters has a Tesla now. It’s parked at his old house in Pala. WoW how do they keep getting so many new cars all the time? Well when you have access to all the tribes money.
Wait until you see what he has hidden in that big garage that he had built in his yard. How many cars and motorcycle he has stored in there along with Tribal records that prove his guilt of corruption
over the years.
He will set it on fire if he suspects any kind of snooping going on.
I remember about 2-3 years ago a transporter truck carrying about 4-5 cars unloaded those vehicles at his house and are more than likely in that garage along with a couple of Harley motorcycles that used to on display at the Casino.
But fuck it right it's okay, it's only tribal funds just like the property that Goodpasture was supposedly bought before the Tribe had a chance to buy it that used to belong bin part to Victor Smith, Roberts dad.
It was passed at a meeting that any property that was being offered for sale with in the Reservation was supposed to offered to the Tribe first before any sale to anyone else. But screw it it's okay because it's Robert Smith.
Well just fuck you Robert Smith you big tub of SHIT.
At least now we know that Willy Pink and King Freeman were telling the truth about Robert Smith and his corruption.
I hope that there is a way to get them back at the meetings because they both have the best interest of the entire Tribe at hand.
Not like Smith and Nieto and Perez who only are out to screw the members for their own agenda.
And they are not even part of the CUPENO bloodline.
We need new leadership in the Tribe, someone that can be a real leader
and has the best interest of the entire Tribe and not just thugs.
Also someone that is not afraid to clean house on tribal employees also because some of the employees are just there to collect a paycheck and don't work.
They sign in and find a place to sleep the rest of the day.
Or use the Tribal vehicles to do things for them self's.
And patrol areas that have nothing to do with the Reservation, unless
they are protecting someone that has something to hide, like a dead body or ????????????????.
I have been in several stores where when they learn I am a Pala member start talking about Robert Smith. Temecula Motorsports for one. "Oh,do you know Robert Smith? He is in here all the time. He uses his black credit card and has bought several ATV's. Another one was the car restoration center next to Smog Star in Murrietta. I was asking about a 60's-ish pick up and they told me it belonged to Robert Smith and that they had restored several cars for him. Again they mentioned the black credit card. So what is the black credit card? A black credit card has no spending limit and is like paying cash straight up. So Robert Smith goes around using the tribe's black credit card paying for all of his expensive habits. I gave to you two names or locations to verify this story but you won't because no one really cares what Robert thief does anymore. So if you happen to venture in to a shop anywhere, go ahead and ask if Robert Smith shops there and see whether or not he has purchased the most expensive item in the store. so your right 11:34 AM. There is a lot of tribal property bought with the tribes black credit card stored in that garage. If you think casinos cant go broke just ask trump, ask AVI, ask Trump 29. Casinos can go broke and they do and pala is next. If you don't do something now all your dreams of a perfect future will be gone. I am sure Robert thief smiles every time he uses that black credit card because he knows the tribe will pay and if there is not enough money to support his habits he will just cut per capita. You own those things, those treasures in his garage, not him. But you won't do anything about it. You won't.
The tribe needs to get him out and have an audit of the tribe done. The FBI could easily go into those businesses and check the records to see if Robert purchased those items with a tribal credit card but who knows if they care enough that he is embezzling from Pala. By the way in order to have an American Express Black card you have to spend at least $250 thousand a year and we all know percap is not enough to spend that much per year. So he must be getting extra money from another source? The Pala accounts probably. Think of we had an honest chairman who didn’t steal Pala’s money then percap would be higher.
The paper that the so called Constitution was written on is more valuable than the words that it contains.
I guess none of the Pala Members want to receive $25,000 a month they must be happy with the 10,000 that Robert gives them.
What a bunch of dummies.
@ 8:25 PM
I did just checkout your claim about Robert Smith in your statement and found it to be true about his using the Tribes credit card at these locations and also discovered that there is another couple of shops in Escondido that say the same thing about his spending habits.
They say that all it takes is for him to call and say that he needs certain cars or bikes delivered and gives the card no and boom its done.
It seems that he owns a lot more vehicles than we thought.
Aren't these considered Tribal assets because they were purchased with tribal funds and under the Pala Band of Mission Indians?
I heard that the Feds were at the Casino this morning taking pictures of the Tribes/Smiths Monster truck for some reason.
Maybe they are still investigating the misuse of Tribal funds and conversion of the Tribes assets.
I truly wonder how much of the property purchased by the Tribe really
went into trust for the PBMI and how much went into trust for Smith.
It's and easy thing to do being that he has his twin sister working as the Regional Director aka Amy Dumbshit.
It might be worth looking into.
That so called Constitution means nothing, it's just a smoke screen to fool the membership into thinking that there are rules in place.
We the PBMI are still under the Articles of Association and the EC has used the so called Constitution for grounds for disenrollment.
The entire membership is at risk if they let the EC get away with this kind of bullshit.
Sooner or later it will be used against another family that goes against the rules of Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto.
Do something about it now while its still fresh in your mind and don't let the EC change anything about the Customs and Traditions of the PBMI.
Our Ancestors built this Reservation for the good of all the people and not just a few chosen ones like Smith and Nieto.
The BIA even says that the Articles are still the Governing Doc's of the Pala Band of Mission Indians because they know that the documents that were submitted by the EC were forged by Smith and his crew.
They are aware that there was not a special election for the adoption of a Tribal Constitution and that there was only a name change with some added rules submitted for the EC to have more power over the membership.
Vote the so called Constitution down and revert back to the Articles of Association that put in place by our ANCESTORS.
Take the power from the EC and put it back in the hands of the GENERAL MEMBERSHIP where it is supposed be.
This move will take care of all the corruption and fraud that is spreading like cancer in our Reservation and killing off real and true Cupeno people.
Is there going to be a vote on the Constitution? Not a likely prospect. There would have to be a referendum first to call a General Election so that is two votes. The political machine at Pala is designed to prevent a referendum. The General Council would have to issue the order and the EC would have to carry out the order. Good luck on getting their cooperation.
Can you picture how nice it would be to attend a double funeral for
Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto all paid for with yet again, Tribal Funds.
@4:28 pm Well then make it happen. These posts are just wishful thinking and not real threats and rob and nieto know that so they could care less. Until they see action by the tribe or law it’s business as usual for them. The only time rob got scared was when a bunch of tribal members had a meeting at the church next to the Admin (since rob locked the gates early that day) and the tribe picked 1 person from each family represented to act as a interim EC until all the mess rob and nieto made was cleared up and a new council was voted in. That following Monday he called the BIA to make sure they were gonna back him and had 12 sheriff vehicles on standby by the fire station in case we did what we should have done is follow through and take over the Admin. That’s where the meeting failed was with no follow through by taking over the Admin.
@ 5:19 pm
What is your take on the treats that Smith make against people that go against him or Nieto?
So Resolution 97-36 says the Pala Constitution was adopted on 11/12/97, and that the GC voted for it on 11/19/97. This Resolution is void on its face due to this error. Robert Smith bypassed the GC and asked for a correction on the approval date from the BIA. The BIA cooperated with the Pala EC to conceal this error from the Band. Just so you all know about this ongoing collusion between the BIA and Robert Smith.
With this being found out the disenrollments are also void and should be corrected asap.
Smith and Nieto have no authority to disenroll anyone from the Pala
Membership rolls.
They are very corrupt and need to be dealt with asap before they have a chance to fool the members yet again by saying that this is all a big misunderstanding and have one of their puppets make a motion to approve the fake date that they want and pass yet another scam by Robert Smith and his non CUPENO BLOOD EC.
Keep your hands in your pockets at the meetings, Kyle Felt and Eric Garcia/ Ortega.
These are the two main puppets that profit from Smith for their motion making skills.
The so-called Constitution for Pala is as fake and a fraud as there
Tribal Chairman, Robert Smith.
When he is finally out either by vote or death you all should do something about his Daughters not having the blood of the Band to be enrolled in the Pala Reservation.
Just kick them to the curb and take everything from them that they received from Pala by fraud.
Including their homes there cars and their income and healthcare.
Turnabout is fair play.
They can blame their beloved Dad for the outcome.
I think that the General Membership should request that the following
should be brought to a meeting and explain what they signed and what their belief was concerning this document.
#1- Stanley Mcgarr
#2- LeeAnn Hayes
#3- King Freeman
#4- Marcus Mojado
Or have the U.S. Government depose each of them under oath to see who is lying.
It would do no good to have them deposed because everyone knows what the EC did to the Britten Family and that Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto should be prosecuted to the fullest extent for what they did on purpose to the Britten family members.
They have had ample time to reverse what they did but instead have chosen to ignore the truth.
So may they rot in hell for their crimes against that family and others that they purposely hurt because of their greed and hate.
They can't say that they weren't warned.
This so called Constitution for the PBMI is nothing more than a smoke screen by Smith and Nieto to cover up their corruption against the mentioned family.
The Britten family has done nothing to deserve this kind of punishment from the EC.
Smith is just pissed off because the truth about his Mother being a thief is true.
And Nieto is backing him up because she is afraid about the truth that she does not belong on the Pala Tribal Rolls, she is from
Sulfar Springs / Morongo Tribe.
So in order to protect her Family from being disenrolled she backs Smith and Smith backs her.
They are two of the biggest frauds that ever walked this earth.
Her Grandfather Stephen Lugo was always willing to tell that story of being Morongo to whom ever would listen.
If the above post is true then something needs to be done about it.
I remember years ago when Steve Lugo used to tell that story and his brother Numeso Lugo used to say the same thing.
Numeso was the man that was killed by Jimbo Goodpasture's Grandfather
Shadow Ayala who kicked him in the head until he was gone, this took place at Irene Koles back yard next door the Harvey Ortega's house,
Right behind where John Chutnicut lived.
Yet Nieto still kisses Goodpastures ass.
Maybe that's why Goodpasture thinks that he can get away with the shit that he does on the Reservation.
Like stealing vehicles and chopping them up for parts and using the parts to build other vehicles.
That's why he has so many cargo containers on the property that he has on Pala Temecula Rd.
Probably full of stolen parts.
Maybe the Sheriffs Dept should talk to his ex wife being that he cheated on her with Season Brown that woman he just married.
His ex wife probably knows a lot of shit about what he has gotten away with in Pala.
? Here is a question for Jimbo Goodpasture.
Hey Jimbo HOW DOES KILMA TASTE.
Didn't you just marry his ex old lady ?
How could you do such a nasty thing like that.
Don't worry she will be looking else where soon.
Yeh, taking to much Viagra will give you a heart attack.
She will leave Goodpasture as soon as she sleeps with a real man for sure instead of an old limp dick like Jimbo and Kilma.
Someone just me that one of Goodpastures daughters wants to run for committee member this year.
Neither one of his daughters even belong on the Tribal Roles.
And to add more even their kids are enrolled in Pala and have Tribal ID's to prove it.
How in the hell did they get enrolled in Pala.
I think its the one that's whoring around up in on the LaJolla rez.
No that’s a lie, I used to be friendly with their family and jimbo’s grandkids do not qualify for enrollment in Pala. I know for a fact cause even he would say that his grandkids couldn’t be enrolled only his kids. So if they are in fact enrolled then rob either allowed the tribe to adopt them as members or used bogus documents to make them qualify for enrollment. That’s why these people like goodpasture and others support Robert so hard core cause he keeps their family enrolled when they shouldn’t be and they know with Robert out they will lose their enrollment once we get an honest and separate enrollment committee to go through the rolls and see what the current regime has done. Also like Cindy Leal and nieto’s grandkids if they are enrolled they shouldn’t be. Nieto is 1/8 and her kids 1/16 so her grandkids do not qualify for Pala membership. I
Its not a lie, I have seen their Tribal ID's of his grandkids and it clearly states that they are enrolled members of PBMI.
Someone needs to get an updated version of the PBMI roles and go through it with a fine tooth comb.
But good luck on that because Smith has advised the BIA not to give any info regarding enrollment or disenrollment to anyone without the permission of the EC.
The BIA also will not issue any CIBD's to any Pala Members unless approved by Smith and the EC.
Goodpasture's Grandmother is 4/4. That makes him 1/4, and his grand-kids 1/16th, which allows for enrollment.
Letter dated/received July 13, 2011 Robert Smith received a letter from Dept of Interior per his** requesting information for enrollment applications for the following individuals on 1928. Agency receipt of this letter was June 27,2011.
The individuals for this request were named as follows:
1. Vivian Trujillo Banks
2. Esperanza Brittain Trujillo
3. Fildeo and Defredia Trujillo Magee
Enclosed are copies of the 1928 applications from the 1928 California roll of Indians. Please be advised these applications do not denote tribal membership of enrollment. “That’s because Pala cannot use the 1928 California Indian rolls for enrollment purposes and the dept of Interior reminded smith of this. He requested these June 2011 and had the first disenrollment July 2011.
There is also a ducument between Stan Mcgarr “Pala Secretary at the time” and Barbara Gonzales-Lyons Vice-Chair of Cahuilla where Barbara was requesting Margarita Brittain and her children’s blood degree for enrollment of their members that have Brittain blood.
**The Pala Allotment Roll (PAR) approved by the secretary of Interior November 3, 1913 and the Pala census (PC) for the year 1919, show Margarita Britten to be of the following:
1. Female, (PAR), (PC)
2. Village, Kupa (PC)
3. 4/4 Degree Indian Blood (PAR)
4. All children to be 1/2 Degree Indian Blood (PAR)
The (PAR) and (PC) are acknowledged by the Pala Band of Mission Indian Tribe to be true and the tribe agrees with the degree of Indian blood in these records.
No Goodpasture’s Great-Grandma was 4/4 meaning he would be 1/8 and his kids 1/16 so his grandkids 1/32 not enough to be enrolled. If you don’t believe the rumors his wife already had a daughter or kids when they hooked up so that means they have zero Cupeno blood. Hey smith/nieto opened this can of disenrollments when they changed Margarita Brittain’s blood degree from 4/4 to 1/2 and her kids 1/2 to 1/4. Both their correct blood degree is documented everywhere even on documents from Robert himself declaring MB to be 4/4 Cupeno or her kids listed as 1/2 Cupeno. Correct MB blood degree and her descendants and leave every Pala family alone. If you attack one family and lie to change their history all to disenroll a couple of them to show King and Willy who has the power you open the doors for others to question every family. Remeber there will eventually be other members in power on the EC. It may go your way for now but who knows a couple years from now??? Fix this and close this disenrollment chapter of Pala history for good so it doesn’t come after you or your family when others are on the EC.
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