In 1903 the Agua Caleinte Cupeno were removed from their ancestral tribal home, the Village of Kupa also known as Warner's Hot Springs. The Cupeno were forced onto the Pala Indian Reservation. This is known as the Cupeno Trail of Tears.
On June 1st, 2011 and February 1st, 2012 162 Warner Ranch Evictee Agua Caliente Cupeno were removed from the PBMI Association by the Pala Enrollment Committee. This is our Second Trail of Tears.
I guess Robert Smith is also calling his Mother a liar, because she was on the enrollment Committee when the 1989 final decision was made and the enrollment committee never appealed that decision. They accepted it as it was written.
Damn Smith, ole boy, is that your moms name on the enrollment committee. Well I'll be, it is her name sure as shit. And if your problem with King is about your mom, then you just lost the battle big time by calling your mom a liar, because she signed the docs for the enrollment and they did not appeal the 89 decision from the BIA. If you are the real man that you say you are, You need to have King attend the next Tribal meeting and APPOLIGIZE to him. Because he WON and you LOST.
Well according to this Pala Tribal Document MB is to considered a Full blood along with her children that were on the wagons from Warners. I know that Esperanza was on the wagon. So that makes her also a flood blood, so put that Family back on the Rolls. It states so on the Document here for everyone to witness. Or are you going to call this enrollment committee liars. Look at the names of the committee members for the enrollment. They never appealed the 1989 final decision from the BIA. So what is the problem.
I am Retired Federal Judge(Recently), and I have to say that according to all the evidence (documents)posted here in black and white, the Pala EC was certainly wrong to disenroll the family members of M.Britten. There is not a Judge on any panel of the Circuit System that will see it any other way if all of these documents are marked as evidence when they are presented to the (the circuit for review. Also I have seen nothing to dispute any of these documents in anyway shape or form, except for the 1928 California judgement rolls, and these cannot be used as a guide for enrollment in your Tribe, according to your Tribal running documents that are on file with the United Stated Government, Dept of the Interior BIA. I wish all of you the best of luck and hope that you get what you are looking for, but as far as this so called inter Tribal Dispute it will be easily settled by the 9 circuit.
I wonder what R.Smiths daughters think about their father badmouthing all of the people that were disenrolled with no just cause. And how they feel when their Grandmother Marie was part of the committee that approved these enrollments in the first place. They have got to be very hurt by his actions. And if not they should be. How about the fact that there Father is accused of MURDER, OMG.
So t5hen now comes Robert Smith, and he doesn't like that so he disenrolled my kids. He must feel high and mighty for doing this and getting away with it.SO FAR ANY WAY.
Hey Smith is the RUBBERMAN aka Frank Laschusa your Grandpa? Is this Frankie Joe from the B52 Bomber squad. The guy that used to live at the Black Castle.
Wow, I wish that that retired Federal Judge was on 9th circuit and was reviewing the evidence in the Pala Issue. But I believe that he knows what he is talking about. I am positive that the 9th circuit will decide in favor of the Trujillo case anyway. Thank you Mr. Retired Judge for your opinion anyway as it means a lot to my Family that you have taken the time to voice your opinion in this matter.
OK, we have all of these Documents and Testimonies as to the blood degree of MB, and we have the 1989 Final Decision made by the US Government. And Robert Smith and the EC still refuse to play by the rules and not except these official Documents as proof of Blood degree for MB. My big question is WHO DO WE TURN TO FOR THIS ISSUE,AND FORCE THE EC TO EXCEPT THESE DOCUMENTS? The BIA is letting the Pala EC get away this and they should be held accountable for this CRIME that they are responsible for causing great harm to these true Native People. And yet they sit there on their over paid asses and do nothing. If the BIA would due their job and step up and take control of these Corrupt Councils this would not have happened. But I guess that the BIA is to chicken shit, and it really shows who they support. I wonder how they can sit back and do nothing and watch the lives of these native American Indians be destroyed. I truly hope that the Pala case that is before the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals forces the BIA to action against these Tribal Councils and force them to do the right thing and stop all of this abuse. If this fails then I think that there is nothing left to do except take into our own hands and vote these people out and banish them for life from the Reservations that they were supposed to protect , and not Destroy.
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I guess Robert Smith is also calling his Mother a liar, because she was on the enrollment Committee when the 1989 final decision was made and the enrollment committee never appealed that decision. They accepted it as it was written.
Mark Orassco is PALA REZ POSTER.
Damn Smith, ole boy,
is that your moms name on the enrollment committee.
Well I'll be, it is her name sure as shit.
And if your problem with King is about your mom, then you just lost the battle big time by calling your mom a liar, because she signed the docs for the enrollment and they did not appeal the 89 decision from the BIA. If you are the real man that you say you are, You need to have King attend the next Tribal meeting and APPOLIGIZE to him.
Because he WON and you LOST.
Looks like Robert has learned nothing watching Leroy call his ancestors liars. Maybe we'll get to see him pulling a Leroy soon!
Well according to this Pala Tribal Document MB is to considered a Full blood along with her children that were on the wagons from Warners. I know that Esperanza was on the wagon. So that makes her also a flood blood, so put that Family back on the Rolls. It states so on the Document here for everyone to witness. Or are you going to call this enrollment committee liars. Look at the names of the committee members for the enrollment. They never appealed the 1989 final decision from the BIA. So what is the problem.
I am Retired Federal Judge(Recently), and I have to say that according to all the evidence (documents)posted here in black and white, the Pala EC was certainly wrong to disenroll the family members of M.Britten. There is not a Judge on any panel of the Circuit System that will see it any other way if all of these documents are marked as evidence when they are presented to the (the circuit for review. Also I have seen nothing to dispute any of these documents in anyway shape or form, except for the 1928 California judgement rolls, and these cannot be used as a guide for enrollment in your Tribe, according to your Tribal running documents that are on file with the United Stated Government, Dept of the Interior BIA.
I wish all of you the best of luck and hope that you get what you are looking for, but as far as this so called inter Tribal Dispute it will be easily settled by the 9 circuit.
I wonder what R.Smiths daughters think about their father badmouthing all of the people that were disenrolled with no just cause. And how they feel when their Grandmother Marie was part of the committee that approved these enrollments in the first place. They have got to be very hurt by his actions. And if not they should be. How about the fact that there Father is accused of MURDER, OMG.
Robert Lavato sr. signed and submitted my enrollment papers amd they were witnessed and signed by Mrs.,Lavato which was Robert Lavatos WIFE.
So t5hen now comes Robert Smith, and he doesn't like that so he disenrolled my kids. He must feel high and mighty for doing this and getting away with it.SO FAR ANY WAY.
So the Morongo Cahuilla Indian Howard Lugo wants the Luiseno and Cupeno off their own land.
Hey Smith is the RUBBERMAN aka Frank Laschusa your Grandpa?
Is this Frankie Joe from the B52 Bomber squad. The guy that used to live at the Black Castle.
Wow, I wish that that retired Federal Judge was on 9th circuit and was reviewing the evidence in the Pala Issue. But I believe that he knows what he is talking about.
I am positive that the 9th circuit will decide in favor of the Trujillo case anyway. Thank you Mr. Retired Judge for your opinion anyway as it means a lot to my Family that you have taken the time to voice your opinion in this matter.
OK, we have all of these Documents and Testimonies as to the blood degree of MB, and we have the 1989 Final Decision made by the US
Government. And Robert Smith and the EC still refuse to play by the rules and not except these official Documents as proof of Blood degree for MB. My big question is WHO DO WE TURN TO FOR THIS ISSUE,AND FORCE THE EC TO EXCEPT THESE DOCUMENTS?
The BIA is letting the Pala EC get away this and they should be held accountable for this CRIME that they are responsible for causing great harm to these true Native People.
And yet they sit there on their over paid asses and do nothing. If the BIA would due their job and step up and take control of these Corrupt Councils this would not have happened. But I guess that the BIA is to chicken shit, and it really shows who they support.
I wonder how they can sit back and do nothing and watch the lives of these native American Indians be destroyed.
I truly hope that the Pala case that is before the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals forces the BIA to action against these Tribal Councils and force them to do the right thing and stop all of this abuse.
If this fails then I think that there is nothing left to do except take into our own hands and vote these people out and banish them for life from the Reservations that they were supposed to protect , and not Destroy.
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