Friday, May 15, 2020

But Tribal Sovereignty?


County Vows To Fight Plans By Tribal Casinos To Reopen Next Week

Wednesday, May 13, 2020 By Amita Sharma KPBS

Excerpts:

But county health officials aren’t happy with the plan and are asking the federal government to help keep the casinos closed.

”We want to make it perfectly clear that we do not agree with reopening casinos on May 18,” County Public Health Officer Dr. Wilma Wooten said. “We feel that the health officers’ order does extend to our tribal nations in this particular situation and we’re working with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to try to address this issue further.”

Casinos are owned by Native American tribes that are considered sovereign nations and are not subject to state and county laws.

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Steinberg and others are especially concerned about seniors, who are some of the most avid casino patrons. He said he will tell his elderly patients to “stay the heck out of casinos.”

Barona and Pala casino operators say they’ve not made a decision yet on when to reopen

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I guess we'll find out just how sovereign tribes are soon.

Also:

Sycuan, Valley View Casinos Announce Reopening Dates

69 comments:

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

Sovereignty is permission to put people in danger with the protection of the federal government. Isn't that what disenrollment is all about? Also look at percentage of crimes per population. It is not a pretty picture and that says nothing about all the crimes that go unreported because certain leaders benefit from harming others.

Anonymous said...

Governor asks tribes to reconsider opening until it is safe. Falls on deaf ears. Tribes resoundingly say we don't care about the community, give us our welfare! CHA-CHING! And away we go! Willing to send desperate workers onto the front lines, but will they put themselves in the line of fire? Is this the return of the "small pox infected blanket," but in reverse? Stay tuned, more to come. See link for the story:

link to San Diego union Tribune story

Anonymous said...

Link to uniontribe story:

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/communities/san-diego/story/2020-05-16/governor-appeals-to-tribes-to-reconsider-their-decisions-to-reopen-casinos

Anonymous said...

Chairman Smith's comment to the Gov. of Calif is:
I tell you what to do not you telling me what to do.

Anonymous said...

Why are there no protest like the George Floyd protest happening on the Reservations that are killing off real Native American people.
The corrupt leasers are doing the same thing as that cop did to Floyd.
They are choking the life out of real members of their tribes and no one seems to care.
NATIVE AMERICAN LIVES ALSO MATTER.

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Unknown said...

Hey 2:15. SHUT UP !!!

Anonymous said...

@ 11:39 PM
That will never happen.

Anonymous said...

These protest seem to be working forcing the States and Cities to help with the problems which they are protesting for.
So maybe the Native Americans being ousted by the corruption of their leaders should start protesting against them and start blocking the roads that run through there reservation until the Government does something to stop the corruption on these reservations and hold these leaders accountable for there actions.
Those leaders are guilty of chocking the life out of real Native American people just like the cop that was was kneeling on the neck of George Floyd.
If that what it will take to get the attention of the U.S.Government then so be it.

Unknown said...

Sounds good. So you 1st. Go stand on Pala Mission Rd. with a sign and we will all join you.

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

Showing your brave face @ 10:38am.

Anonymous said...

Where were you 10:38.I parked at the corner in my car with a sign that said "STOP TRIBAL CORRUPTION" for 45 minutes and not one person showed up and even asked why i was there.
when you said that you would back me up did you mean that you would be way back there, like maybe 1-2 miles back?

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

Sorry, I am over 800 miles away. Not able to get to Pala these days. S*** happens.

Anonymous said...

10:38 AM has no balls, just a big mouth.

Anonymous said...

does anyone know when there having services for mr diaz.

Anonymous said...

Haven't heard anything yet.
I hope they have it in Pala because that's where he was from, not Palm Springs.
They should have the service in Pala and then bury him in Palm Springs with his wife.
It would be to hard for his family and friends to travel
to Palm Springs in view of the virus.

Anonymous said...

Services for Sonny Diaz will be Friday the 26th with viewing from 4-7 pm to be held in Palm Springs.
Address for the viewing Agua Caliente Tribal Building
64250 Old Rincon Village RD.Pala Springs, Ca.92264.
Burial -June 27th at 10:00AM At Jane Augustine Patencio Cemetery 1095 Tahquitz Canyon Way, Palm Springs
,
92262.

Anonymous said...

THAT'S 64250 OLD RINCON VILLAGE RD. IN PALM SPRINGS.
92264. SORRY.

Anonymous said...

Another tribal member has passed away in Pala.
Dorthy Blacktooth passed away in a resting home yesterday according to rumors.

Unknown said...

Who where the boys that wrecked today ? How are they ?

Anonymous said...

One dead and 3 in serious condition.

Anonymous said...

1 passed, 1 critical, 1 with broken arm, 1 minor injuries. Good lesson learned, keep your vehicle maintained, teach your kids about safety driving. This could have been avoided.

Anonymous said...

What do you mean? How could it have been avoided?

Anonymous said...

Teach your children that pot and driving doesn't mix, speeding and not paying attention, there is little skid marks. It's called defensive driving. And keep their cars maintained, like brakes, tires, etc.

Anonymous said...

The driver has been arrested for DUI, manslaughter,and
endangerment in the accident.
The vehicle he was driving belonged to his sister who died a few months ago.
The driver is only 17 years old and will face these charges in the very near future.
He has destroyed his life and the lives of his friends that were in the vehicle with him.
He could possibly spend decades in prison if convicted of these charges.
He was traveling at almost 80 miles per hour when he hit a large oak tree and there were no skid marks seen at the site of the crash.

Anonymous said...

My heart and prayers go out for all of them. The driver is 18, not 17. His life as he knows is gone, hopefully it is a wakeup call not just for him but our young (almost) adults. Pot is a drug, period... It interferes with your perception of everything and not an entertainment while driving. He's been told several times to slow down and chose not to. Now he's lost his friend and permanently hurt 3 others. He's going to be paying a big price simply because drugs and speeding was "cool".

Anonymous said...

I understand that the 18 year old driver had a few traffic tickets that he never took care of for speeding
and unsafe driving and one prior DUI in Temecula.Sounds like he didn't care about his life or the lives of his friends.
Only time will tell if this wake up call will wake him up or not.

Unknown said...

Get a life !

Anonymous said...

I have one and that's more than i can say about the driver who thought that smoking weed and huffing whippets was a cool move.

Anonymous said...

I hope someone is able to track down the good people who helped pull the victims from the white jeep that hit a tree on pala temecula rd last week because all 4 victims have tested positive for the covid 19 virus.

Anonymous said...

And who have they infected?

Anonymous said...

Are you serious?

Anonymous said...

Very serious, PALA now has 11 confirmed cases of the COVID 19.

Unknown said...

That's what happens when you all smoke out of the same BONG !

Anonymous said...


The CHP did find a Bong at the crash site and took it in for evidence.

Anonymous said...

This shit is happening on all the reservations, not just Pala. The younger generations think they are invincible and immune to the virus. They have no respect as to the people who they are infecting. I don't want to wish bad, don't be surprised if there are more deaths because the damn whippets, joints, bongs, etc are more important than people's lives.

Anonymous said...

I am not proud but i just kicked my son out of the house because he refused to live here by my rule which includes no pot smoking and having friends over durning this virus bullshit.
Sorry but my grand children's lives are way more important to me than some ass sucking bong.

Anonymous said...

This is my feeling about whats going on in Pala.
This virus will probably kill a few more tribal members before the government finds a cure for it.
However i feel that the biggest threat to the life's of the tribal members is Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto.
Sooner or later there will be a way to control the virus
but Smith and Nieto are so out of control that there is no stopping them and all the lives of the members are in danger.
BUT WHO CARES RIGHT?.

Anonymous said...

According to the San Diego union news paper Pala now has
19 covid 19 cases.because people are having parties at their homes.
There was a party at Lisa Molina's house last week when we only had 3 cases and now we have 19 cases.
Why isn't Pala's leaders doing something to stop these gatherings and where is the the Tribal Security.
I forgot the security officers are hired to sleep while on duty and have no contact with tribal members having parties while this virus is killing people.
This tribal member should lose her per capita for this
but we all know she will probably get a raise instead.
People need to call the Sheriffs on people when they see these parties going on because they are mostly minors
who are drinking and smoking weed and other drugs.
However Robert Smith is to chicken shit to do anything to them in fear of losing votes in the coming election.

Anonymous said...

Having these parties should not be happening during this
this virus and violators should be sited as being a direct threat to the members of PBMI and community.
If they are guilty of this they should be fined at least
50% of their per capita for a period of 3 months and if they continue to have them then they should be evicted
from the area for a period of at least one year and fined
a years worth of their per capita.
This is total disregard for the safety of the reservation
and its members. NO EXCEPTIONS.

Anonymous said...

Darlene Bow is just as bad. Apparently she consistently has young kids over at her house drinking, smoking pot and God knows what else. Disgusting behavior of a 59 year old woman.

Anonymous said...

So Leroy admits in Facebook he’s been out of it for years. Even 10 years according to him. So when did he make the motion to disenroll? Think about it.

Anonymous said...

Theresa Nieto was the one that made the motion to disenroll according to Leroy Miranda and he was just a smith puppet bribed with money and drugs.

Anonymous said...

Darlene Bow doesn't live in Pala.
She lives on the Pauma reservation.

Anonymous said...

3 weeks ago pala only had 2 cases of covid 19 and now there is over 20 cases and rising.
So if you see your neighbors having these parties don't call pala security call the Sheriffs department.
Then go to the next Tribal meeting and ask Smith why they are allowing this to go on with the virus getting worse.
And see what lie he will tell you.
Number one answer, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
But this is a direct threat to members of the community
and the Elders with underlying medical conditions.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter, it's a problem on all the reservations. You have supposed adults having young kids over during a time when a horrific virus is spreading rapidly giving them alcohol and drugs.

Anonymous said...

Damn women having parties for mostly young males to come over and get high and drink haven't your heard of buying a DILDO.

Anonymous said...

But he was the real instigator. And for someone else’s benefit. And he voted yes.

Anonymous said...

He and Robs two nephews should be evicted from Pala
because they are a direct threat to the community of pala
because of they way they conduct themselves in public areas.
The nephews break into homes and steal from the people,
they stand at the corner of park and beg for money.
they pass out drunk on the benches in front of the mission with no shirt or shoes.
they hang around the charter school and bother the students.
And for Leroy Miranda, how is he able to keep his tribal built house while he has nothing but white boys over for drug parties and who knows else.
Tribal members have been ousted from their tribal homes
for less than that.
Also he is a disgrace to the tribe concerning his actions.
He looks like shit and probably smells like too.

Anonymous said...

P.S. to above post.
The two nephews are also able to live in a tribal home
that was built for Roberts sister who passed away a few years ago.
That is really messed up and not rite.
And tribe more than likely pays for the light bill and
non member fees for water and sewer.
But no one seems to care.

Anonymous said...

That's right they were adopted by Roberts sister Deborah
so they are "NOT" tribal members.

Anonymous said...

PS to the 2 above posts. Leroy's house is on Tribal allotment, not Tribal land. The ONLY way the Tribe has any say is if his house is not paid off. Then the Tribe can actually kick him out, rent the home for as long as they want to. There is another home never questioned, Germain's. Denna is NOT a Tribal member yet he is living in a Tribal home on Tribal land, same as Debra's adopted sons.

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone want to go to pala, virus or no virus? There's always a group of fat disgusting thugs getting drunk and harassing people, and that's just the exacting committee.

Anonymous said...

Look at all you inbred fat trash arguing over the blood lines like you're royalty. It's like a race to the bottom. Sad

Unknown said...

Sounds like you LUV IT !

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

NORTH COUNTY (CNS) – A man died after he was believed to have been in a fight in the parking lot at Pala Casino Spa & Resort, San Diego County Sheriff’s officials said Saturday.

The man was taken by ambulance from the 4700 block of State Route 76 to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 7:50 a.m. Friday.

Upon further investigation, the victim was believed to have been in a fight with another man in the parking lot of the casino at about 6:30 a.m., according to Lt. Thomas Seiver of the Sheriff’s Homicide Unit. The victim apparently left the scene and deputies found him about six miles west of the casino.


Homicide detectives responded and assumed the investigation.

Anyone with information about the incident was asked to call the Sheriff’s Homicide Unit at 858-285-6330. Tipsters can also remain anonymous by calling Crime Stoppers at 888-580-8477

Anonymous said...

The best witness to the killing are the camera's at the Casino and they don't lie.
So whats taking so long to arrest the killer.
Or did someone erase the tapes before law enforcement could review them.
Or maybe the poster on the other site is right maybe Vern was beaten at another site and driven to where he was found.

Anonymous said...

The family should contact the FBI office in Carlsbad and request that they investigate what really happened to Vern Linton before it gets swept under the rug like the other deaths in Pala.
The FBI has jurisdiction over major crime the happened on Federal land.

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

Well the FBI will go do everything in their power to bring Justice no to the perpetrator. You can trust them. They really care about Indians.

Anonymous said...

I trust them more than i trust the tribal security and the sheriffs dept.

Anonymous said...

I guess we will just have to wait and see who's house gets bulldozed and the lot is cleared of any evidence.

Anonymous said...

This is another reason that we need to stand as one and vote in new leadership in November.
With the current EC everything gets pushed back, way back
because the leaders refuse to let the general membership
know the truth about anything that is important as a whole tribe
The only true thing that they care about is their own agenda and they consider the general membership their
puppets.

Anonymous said...

I heard that Vern Linton was lured to the 4th level parking structure to talk with his ex's boyfriend.
And when Vern got out of his car the man starting fighting with him and didn't stop hitting Vern until he was almost knocked out.
Vern then got into his car so he could drive away when the man opened the drivers door and started hitting Vern
again until he was out cold.
This 25 year old man that beat up Vern needs some old school justice served on him if he is not arrested for the death of this 52 year old tribal member.

Anonymous said...

How many deaths need to happen before the FBI says enough is enough and investigate these deaths and the people that are glad that deaths are not being investigated.
The FBI is supposed to be the best law enforcement the world but yet they haven't done so well on the Federal Indian Reservations. WHY????????????????????????????????.

Anonymous said...

I just heard that Luke Bow Banks has passed away.
Prayers got out to Robert and Lucille Banks.

Anonymous said...

Luke Bow Banks used to be a PBMI member until Rob and Nieto disenrolled him.
Can't wait for a new EC that is run by leaders that will look at the Tribal Roles and make everything right and re-enroll the ones that were targets by Smith and Nieto
for some kind of bullshit and the fact that these two bastards used another form of lies to disenroll these real PBMI members.
And when a new set of leaders go through the roles and make the legal changes then we will see how smith and nieto like the outcome.

Anonymous said...

True then all the Nieto's will lose their homes and healthcare and per capita payments just like the ones that were illegally disenrolled by them.
That would include all the Lugo's and Nieto's Dad.
Wow that's a lot of per capita that will be divided back into per capita funds for real PBMI members.

Anonymous said...

There is no doubt in anyone's mind that Theresa Nieto and Robert Smith should be considered a direct threat to the members of PBMI and should be dealt with according to the rules set forth buy the current EC members,
which could and should be applied to them as well.
meaning either eviction or banishment from the reservation.
And include lost of health care and housing and per capita.
They made the rules now we can enforce them.
It's kind of like them slapping themselves in the face.