Friday, September 14, 2018

Tukumay

To quote a comenter:

"What are u mixed with white ? Mexican ? Obviously you don’t have enough blood. Bitch can you speak your language other than “Tukumay” haha Native is Native" - Anonymous







tomorrow....

One of these tomorrows will hold a brighter future for Pala.

Who's Ready?

131 comments:

Anonymous said...

What's going on?

Anonymous said...

Pala Band is going broke due to the financial mis-management by the Executive Committee...at least Robert Smith blames the Executive Committee...I guess he doesn't realize he IS the Executive Committee...ha ha ha ha...ha ha ha ha....

Just ask any of your relatives that went to the meeting Wednesday...over 3 hours long, 167 people...Robert's gonna "look into it" as to why per cap has to go down. LOL

Anonymous said...

What’s tomorrow?

Anonymous said...

Everyone knows Robert is running the casino into the ground. How much more evidence do you need? Of course there’s mismanaged funds. Vote in a new chairman and watch how palas financial situation improves. Get Robert out before he ruines it for all of us

Tukumay said...

@12:44 pm

It's rhetorical. One of these tomorrows will hold a brighter future at Pala, especially when there is a leadership change and all the corruption is rooted out.

Anonymous said...

Is there going to be a protest or some sort?

Anonymous said...

@ 12:04 PM did Robert say how much it was going down or give any reasons?

Anonymous said...

@1:55 pm what I heard was that they are going to look into the finances at the casino to figure out where all the money is going and then report back in January.

The rumor was Per Cap will then be reduced by $1000 in January. I wasn't at the meeting but am only hearing from relatives so please check with your family.

Theresa kept saying "we're broke" "we're broke" according to another source.

I guess there wasn't even enough money for Kylie Perez's house. Again I don't know much about that other than I guess Kylie feels his house was not properly built.

Again, do your own research and check your own sources.

Anonymous said...

Robert and Theresa are only saying this now because of the election coming up and they want to act like they don’t know why there is a financial problem. I say the leaders are responsible and should know what is going on. VOTE in new leadership. Report back in January so Robert and Theresa are saying they will still be on the EC in January. That’s when the we swear in the new EC and I pray for Pala and our lively hood that there is some new people on council to lead Pala into a new era. Things have been going bad since 2008 when the economy hit and our percap started going down and we have never recovered. The EC has had lots of time to fix the problem and they either can’t or are part of the problem. For the life of Pala we need to VOTE in new people on the EC.

Anonymous said...

who is running in the election next month against Robert?

Anonymous said...

so why was the meeting 3 hours long? just to tell them that per cap is going down and they don't know why??

Anonymous said...

Sounds like the people of Pala are starting to question their finances. So be really smart and have the person who handles the finances be the one to investigate the problem, because you know they will tell the truth,right? You already know the answer they are going to give "someone is stealing from the tribe at the Casino", hmmm wonder who will be the scapegoat.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Kylie Perez house was built on clay covered ground without any site prep done to the ground so water will seep through the concrete mostly through the stress joints in the slab.
The Contractor did not dig down and prep the ground before they pored the slab.
this is why his home keeps getting mold in the walls.
Robert told the GM that the contractor no longer builds for the Tribe, which was Pence Construction in Valley Center.
According to Pence they were told by Smith to take short cuts on some of the building sites so Smith could get his kick backs from him for awarding the building contracts to there company, and this is the results.
On Kylies site there should have been a retaining wall built to stop the water from flooding his house, but again it was a matter of kick backs that stopped this right way to prep these sites.
Anyone that has had the problem with clay as a foundation knows that clay will push the water upwards and that the water has to go somewhere and in this case it seeps through the slabs stress joints and causes the water to go into the walls creating the issues of mold.
Kylie was not at fault and the blame should be on Robert Smith and Pence Construction for the shortcuts that were taken.
Smith was the person that signed off on these sites for Pence Construction, and he has no construction experience at all just deep pockets.

Anonymous said...

How could pala possibly be broke? All the other casinos are making bank. Come on people open your eyes Robert is stealing so much of your money your casino is going bankrupt. Get him out as soon as possible. Before no one gets per cap anymore.

Anonymous said...

Haha so you talk shit about roscinda and the families that worked together on preserving the language but use the book to stand on as a group hoping for change haha wow. I see what this group is about.

Anonymous said...

Comments represent the “one” who who post it.
How can a whole group post one comment. WOW how can you be so stupid haha

Anonymous said...

This “hole” group is together it’s the same ones on here talking shit and backing each other’s views up. You are all one hole. Shit hole. Haha lol bakakak

Anonymous said...

At 6:54, your a idiot. Keep doing what your doing and you’ll be broke. The casino is going under dummy. Stop Hating on the dissenrolled and help put a stop to the corruption. I am not a disenrolie but I think Robert is ruining our casino. Non of us are going to be getting per cap if things continue the way they are. Robert is a thief. He is going to ruin it for all of us

Anonymous said...

If you ask me when per-cap drys up, and it will, ALL pala members will be to blame for sitting around while Robert skips town with everything and leaves you with,a boarded up casino making you ZERO! that's going to be a show nobody's,gonna want to miss, hahaha

Anonymous said...

When will you stop believing his lies? You need look no further than that lump of shit sitting in front of you at meetings, the casino GM, and the oriental gangs that are "ALLOWED" to steal 49,999 a day. As long as they don't exceed 50,000 Robert & the GM will look the other way, provided they get a share, Shit people, do the math and for once face reality, or you can let Robert spend more money "you don't have" to catch a thief, fuck wake up!

Anonymous said...

This is no big deal all you have to do to survive and get the per cap raised to where it is supposed to be is get Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto out of the EC.
If you continue to support a broken EC and give them what they want you will lose every thing that you have plus many more year to recover.
Some of the older members will suffer first if this continues to go on.
They rely on the income from the Casino and when we have to take cuts because of the management doesn't know what the hell they are doing is not right.
Sorry to say but the only way to recover from this is to call for an audit of all financial dealings with the Tribe and prosecute any negative findings no matter who it is.
Theresa Nieto is nothing but a liar and a cheater, she runs the EC like they are her maids or her landscaper.
She tell Robert Smith what to do and when to do it and she will lie to get what she wants no matter who it hurts.
Supporting her for reelection would be the biggest mistake that members could make.
You can all see that it is time for new EC members to be elected into office before there is nothing left to give the members.
Robert Smith seems that he can never give the right answers to any thing that's important for the Tribe as a whole.
He always turn to Nieto at the meetings because she is in charge when it comes to dealings concerning the Tribe.
They both,Smith and Nieto need to be gone one way or another.

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

The only way to track the finances accurately is with an external audit. If the Casino management is mishandling funds they won't report it because their jobs are at stake. If the Pala EC is mishandling funds they won't report it because their freedom is at stake.

Only an independent accounting firm reporting to a committee of elders selected by the General Council can conduct an audit and produce an accurate financial report.

One thing is sure. If there are financial problems the current leaders are responsible.

Anonymous said...

6:08 PM said, "Haha so you talk shit about roscinda and the families that worked together on preserving the language but use the book to stand on as a group hoping for change haha wow. I see what this group is about."

You think that is talking shit about Rosinda! Here's some shit. Rosinda worked as a prostitute in Long Beach and Seal Beach which is where she got pregnant by a Filipino Merchant Marine. He was the father of Robert Lavato. Rosinda and her cohorts had to leave Long Beach because they murdered a Filipino sailor while they were trying to rob him. How is that for some shit. Rosinda didn't know shit about Kupa. She learned it all from Big. Her memories of Kupa are Big's memories. Rosinda only contributed about 10% of the information for Muluwetam. Jim Brittain contributed and so did Rosindas aunts and others. Get your facts right. Besides that Rosinda spoke cupanish. She was not a primary speaker because her parents were Mexican and Spanish was their primary language. Now that's some shit. Happy now. Go back to your closet.

Anonymous said...

you all need to stop talking bad on different family's from Pala Loved ones that have passed on it's not right and so disrespectful

Anonymous said...

At a boy Luther.

Anonymous said...

How about you all stop trashing Margarita Brittain first? Remember where this started, your family talking mad shit.

Anonymous said...

More than 100 years of trashing Margarita Britten but speak the truth about Rosenda and we are the ones being disrespectful. Rosenda, a Pala Loved one? Her own grandchildren visit her more at her grave than they did in life. I guess she whispers the truth to them from the other side. The Lavasquez family are total bullshit. This blog is here so the truth can get out. These words don't scream, spit and throw tantrums the way those that get their way at Pala do. Here you can make your argument or not. It is not about who screams the loudest and shouts the most lies. Look what they have done to our tribal meetings. If they don't like something they just start screaming and lying. Thank you Rosenda, Loved One. You did such a great job.

Anonymous said...

Haha it's all love on here. Your mad responses are retarded. You can tell you are disenrolled for a reason.

Anonymous said...

Margarita is my aunt and all but you can tell she wasn't full. I mean she was but wasn't hmmmm

Anonymous said...

You guys aren't even old enough to speak on the elders. WHOEVER the elders were talking bad about them is cowardness. Study more about the elders and see they ALL got along. No matter how bad you all wanna make it sound now, they all got along. ALL OF THEM. And they always mixed and traded with different tribes. ALL OF THEM. They still do. This new way of divide and conquer backed by years of grudges is petty , weak, and uneducated. The politics in the tribe will be fixed when we all can talk together. Unlike now we don't even know or care to talk to each other. Some do but a lot of our older not elder folks are teaching wrong because of they're own personal grudges which is keeping us back.

Anonymous said...

Sylverio was an Uncle through marriage and all but you could tell he was Mexican. And by recorded history and testimony from his children.

Anonymous said...

Pala won’t see any real change until they have a new chairman. Then finances will improve, relationships will improve, no more threat of dissenrollment and those that should be on the rolls will be reenrolled. I can’t wait for this to happen. Look forward for tomorrow’s future

Anonymous said...

"I think thou protests too much", someone seems to be affected by current events going on, and they must be scared, and that is why they are all of a sudden coming on here making bs comments about Margarita not being full blood (you obviously do not read any of the evidence) and about the Brittens not belonging, hmmmmmmmm. What's the matter? Is your precious leader about to fall and you are lashing out at the disenrollees? Keep telling yourself your lies, the truth is about to show it's beautiful head. Then all will know.

Anonymous said...

So we're margaritas fuckin ugly ass Mexican songs then ? Hahaha no songs sung by the margarita. She got her name by being a drunk off the margaritas get it ? Don't tell me it's not true ese her ese grandchildren say so. Sorry. So don't be mad at the families enrolled we all don't question the blood we all know we're good sorry mad disenrollies the Britains are all related to the families anyway your points are retardededed

Anonymous said...

So true !!!! These people swear it's all bad

Anonymous said...

It's because they're not enrolled. So they try to put the families against each other cuz they have no family. They actually lose sleep over this haha

Anonymous said...

Yeah but it's dumb when they talk shit on the elders that shits stupid A F. That needs to stop.

Anonymous said...

Yeah

Anonymous said...

Anyone can get on here and talk shit. In real life they're all quite scared little pussies tukumay hahaha

Anonymous said...

They just drive by all scared and quite like they did the other night when that protest was supposed to happen all the keyborders that are always on here talking shit were driving by ready to report back on here. We seen your punk asses u scared pussies tukumay haha

Anonymous said...

I am sorry that you feel that way. What you think is funny has torn apart our lives. How did we hurt you? We all called eachother cousin, we all laughed and fought but had the deep community respect. Our parents and grandparents were close, we were close when we were younger. Why do you have so much hate for us now, we did nothing wrong? The hate that has spread is sad and distasteful. What happen to the people of honor, pride, peace? Where is it that we were treated fairly with the same treatment of every other family in Pala? We were not, and you know it. I am sure if it was you, you would stand up for your family too, especially when you know the truth. All families should either be judged on the 1928 Roles like we were, or go back to the way it is supposed to be. The tides will turn and when they do, we will not laugh at you, we will understand your pain, because you are family.

Anonymous said...

Cough Cough ..... Bullshit....... all the comments on every post are shit talking. Fuck out of here Fuck margarine

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

It is kind of funny to get bashed for defending your family legacy. The problem is that the truth hurts. So when we tell the truth you say it is Bulls hit and trash talking elders. When you tell your lies you say it's okay because you have the blood.

What if you really don't have the blood? What if Roscinda Nolasquez really was only 1/4 Cupeno, was relocated to Pala when she nine before the coming of age ceremony,and her father was from Mexico so her first language was Spanish.

Because that is the truth after all.

And Margarita Britten was already an elder before moving to Pala, and she was full blood, and she lived as a Cupeno, spoke the language, taught it to her children, and that is the legacy we protect and preserve.

That is just simple truth. It isn't clouded by lies. Salvador Nolasquez was Yaqui. Pelegrino Ortega was Kupa. There is the difference right there.

Now we have to undo all the damage done by the pretenders to Cupeno culture. Don't blame us for telling the truth about families. If you have better evidence bring it forward. But don't expect us to enjoy getting bashed by a bunch of corrupt lies.

Anonymous said...

Wow, so disrespectful. I’ll pray for you

Anonymous said...

That was for 3:29

Anonymous said...

Everyone needs to go to the meeting when nominations are done and protest Smith and Nieto if they are nominated again.
They are the ones that are stealing from the Tribe and are blaming the staff at the Casino.
Check their personal bank accounts and their personal investments and you will see what they are really doing.
Buying homes in different counties and countries and using the Tribe for their own tax gains and not paying the sales tax on their purchases.
If you let them control you any longer its you fault that you lose everything even your Casino and income.

Anonymous said...

If the lavatos are Mexican why is there family enrolled and you and your family are not enrolled ? Speculations are speculations the proof is they along with the other families are again and I quote "Enrolled" so sorry but your cheap shots are exactly that.... cheap. Us tribal members are kupa whether you all like it or not. Cupa Kupa Cupeno or however you want to claim it.

Anonymous said...

Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto both know full well that an Audit of all the Tribal Finances including all investments and income sources
would solve any and all problems that are happening with the Tribe.
Why won't they agree to this Audit, because they know that the truth will come out and their freedom could be taken away.
This will go on until they are out of the EC and dealt with.
That's why they do not want an Audit done at the Tribal level.
However that should not stop you members who have the power and the vote to motion for an Audit at the next meeting.
If you want answers this is the only real way to get them.
They said at the last meeting that an Audit is done every year at the Casino and was a part of the gaming NIGC rules so they should be aware of any mismanagement at that time.
They are the ones that are stealing from you not us.
Why can't the General Membership see any of the results from these yearly Audits that are done so we can see and make any decisions that will help our Tribe why is done so secretly.
The RC knows what's up but are making the Casino Managers the scape goats.

Anonymous said...

Who would you guys like to see be chairman ? Since you guys have all the answers. And don't bullshit and make a dream up. Say the name. So who you would like to see Chairman ?

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

Because the Enrollment Committee is the same croooks that are robbing the Band blind. You're comment just shows how little you know about PBMI.

Anonymous said...

Anyone other than smith. He has been chairman for to long. The power has gone to his head. He has a biased opinion. The brittians have the paperwork to prove the belong. They should be on the rolls. And hopefully that will change in time. But rite now we need to get Robert out. He is steeling so much the casino is going broke.

Anonymous said...

Either way non-Reinstament_non-restitution they are enrolled get over it. Sorry

Anonymous said...

So these are all brittians that run this site ? The all mighty full blooded non mixed brittians ? The real cupenos lololol

Anonymous said...

@4:44pm, you better read G.C. resolution number 14-15. That's the resolution where Robert shell gamed the B.I.A. into making you a luiseno tribe, so sorry, your now luiseno,Luiseno, luiseno. Or however you want to claim it.

Anonymous said...

And since G.C. resolution 14-15 changes the name pala band of luiseno mission indians, (old pala) to pala band of mission Indians, it means you belong on the old pala reservation across the river, 300 and something odd acres, so when can we expect you to be vacating the rez purchased for the Warner's ranch evictees for your new home across the river?

Anonymous said...

Don't have to I'm enrolled. Unlike you I know what I am.

Anonymous said...

It's like saying willie pink is full blooded lol

Anonymous said...

Cupeno or not or whatever.... the matter is enrolled vs disenrolled that is what all the attack on the families is about. Same ol Same ol. You either make it or you don't. To figure out how the blood works or find out a little too late. Sad cases on here but so is life. New committee new way of handling business.

Anonymous said...

@6:37. Your a idiot. Your casino is going bankrupt but your more concerned about disenrollies.

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

I never said I was full blood. Willie never said he was full blood. Being part of a tribe, preserving our heritage, and restoring the legacy of our people is what's important to me. A big part of that is telling the truth. Glad you could come to Pala Watch and see the evidence. If you are unconvinced and prefer to believe the Chairman's lies you are not alone. There are others who feel the same way.

We don't need your approval. We will continue to fight. The Britten's are good people who did nothing to hurt Pala. It is truly unfortunate that Pala has hurt us and continues to paint us black for saying Robert Smith is a liar and a thief. And for saying that we should never have been disenrolled. And for researching other bloodlines only to discover they can't prove their blood degree but we can.

The future may bring some hard changes for Pala. When you talk as though there is something wrong with the Brittens, you have it backwards. There is something right with the Brittens. We were willing to stand up to Robert Smith. King Freeman raised the issues. Willie Pink fought to fix problems. Kenny Johnson opposed Smith in elections. PBMI was better when we were part of it.

Now look where things are, and what the future will bring. Bankruptcy? Another killing spree? A rash of evictions? More division among the families? All of the above?

Anonymous said...

Any ways under the circumstances your little group was weak I personally knew your group would fail. You went about it all wrong. And no again I say the brittens are related to many families in Pala documented or not the relatives of the brittens are still enrolled. And as far as going bankrupt it won't happen so why keep saying it will ? So we can be a sad group of shit like y'all ? Not going to happen we have a strong tribe not everyone is right but our future isn't to fail.

Anonymous said...

Ahaha this non reinstatement said he's telling the truth. Ok the truth is you guys got disenrolled and are mad. Talking about families looking like some old babies. Booohooo mad about not getting paid lol You want to be re enrolled but hope the casino goes bankrupt what the fuck is going on !

Anonymous said...

Not going bankrupt? Are you blind. Incase you haven’t herd per cap is going down. Theresa herself said “we are broke”

Anonymous said...

Nobody wants the casino to go bankrupt idiot. That’s why I want Robert out. Christmas bonuses have dwindled, per cap has gone down. And there is no reason for it. All Southern Californian casinos are making bank except pala. Why is that? It’s not cuz of the dissenrolled. Robert is milking the casino dry. We have to stop him.

Anonymous said...

Who said we failed? Keep telling yourself that. Yes the Lavatos are Mexican Filipino. Why is it that you can't accept Roscinda's word when it goes against you. She declares herself to be a foreigner to Kupa and that her father and grandfather were from Mexico. The BIA even ordered her's and Robert Lavato's blood degree lowered but since foreign Indian Mexican filipinos run pala that will never happen. Robert Smith doesn't care one way or the other as long as the people keep fighting amongst each other he wins. He has played everyone since he left the crib. He used to go around the village and mooch food even when he didn't need it. That is how he got so fat. Robert and ca ca boy would cross paths and in time they became lovers depending on how you see it. In Pala it would just be between two lovers. In the real world it would be considered child molestation. Robert raped ca ca boys mother but I guess Robert preferred ca ca boy over his mother. Anyway, call us all the names you want. We have so much truth to tell over yout bullshit it really doesn't matter. There are no full bloods left in Pala. None. So what gives you the power to talk down to anyone. More than likely you will get disenrolled when the BIA comes back in and determines membership again. So go ahead and spit yell and lie. It is the Lavato way. It is the Nolasquez way. One other truth. Salvador begged for protection from the BIA because Domingo Moro was going to kick his ass if he got an allotment. Domingo knew that the Nolasquez family shouldn't be allotted but the BIA finally overruled Domingo and granted the allotments anyway. Fortunately there is still time to have those allotments cancelled and returned to the Warner Ranch Indians. I would suggest that you start reading the Puzz and Short cases. It is gripping reading and just an echo of what will be happening in Pala. So sad you will be out. The sooner the better. It is time to let California Indians have what is theirs. You Lavatos have really maintained your Mexican heritage so returning to Mexico shouldn't really matter to you.

Anonymous said...

Haha ok being Cupeno is Mexican got it.

Anonymous said...

Please tell me what family you are from please tell me.

Anonymous said...

@ 7:53, I do not believe you are enrolled, prove it. You are an outsider just trying to start trouble. No one cares what you think, outsider. Non-Indian. Ha.

Anonymous said...

I am a Britten and I don’t agree with what a lot of you are saying. There should be NO Disenrollments of any family. I don’t agree that some of my cousins were disenrolled and my blood was lowered when it has been determined over and over again MB was FULLBLOOD Cupeno. Leave enrollment alone, except for the people Robert enrolled in the past 6 years to support him with not another blood of the band. I also believe if we don’t vote in new leadership and out smith and nieto we will be even worse off next year. I fear the future of Pala if we don’t make change now for elections. We all know things have been bad the last couple years with fighting and finance and all under robert and Theresa watch so I say it is time for new leadership.

Anonymous said...

Most Brittens do not want anyone disenrolled, except the fake members who Robert brought in to protect his power.

Anonymous said...

The margarita part is questionable.

Anonymous said...

The Margarita part is questionable???? What do you mean?? The part about her blood degree? Please read the “1989 Final Decision” which states after extensive research and no evidence against we determine Margarita Britten to be fullblood Cupeno. Also go through this blog and read all the documents and if you are on the EC then you can read all the documents I have sent you in packets over the past 3 years. The truth is always going to be the truth and will not change only lies change. That’s how I know it’s only a matter of time until the rest of my family will be reenrolled because the truth will always be sitting there waiting for someone honest to see it while lies are seen through eventually. The key to the election is having honest people who are not smith puppets on the election committee so we all need to attend October meeting for nominations and election committee nominations.

Anonymous said...

Maragarita has German blood or some ugly mix. So I heard. Everyone knew her blood was low. We all know this. Robert makes the rolls and so does Theresa. Both of the Theresa’s. So does Sheila’s fat ass so does dion so does Leroy so does Howard’s dumb ass so does that orozco boy so does Nona so does jimbo etc. now I don’t know personally how much but margarita aka margarine butter - She couldn’t prove her blood so that’s why her ass couldn’t be a full blood because she was shamed for being with the white man. Look at her ugly ass grandchillens white as fuck looking wanna be indians. As far as the brittens maybe it’s destiny to be disenrolled I don’t know how there blood works honestly don’t care. The tribe kicked the ones that were always questionable out and as a tribal member I stand behind them. If you don’t like it run for office and quit being little scared bitches. Crying to each other on here talking shit about the families and then play the victim. You guys say your tribal members but we never here you speak out at the meetings. Why ? Because you guys lack order. You all look crazy at the meetings your subjects are all over the place and when you guys do speak up you sound like conspiracy theorists.

Anonymous said...

So are we singing enemy songs here. Okay. Get ready.

Anonymous said...

It’s how you people are. It’s how you people talk.

Anonymous said...

Your hurting my ears 11:54 with your Yaquipino language. Look it up. Yaquipino. Language of the wanna be Cupeño based on lies and bullshit. Yaquipino is famous for not having any relevant facts or proof.

Anonymous said...

For the ones that wanna dick ride Robert and theresa's and so and so y'all are some pathetic lonely losers.
My family can put the name on the map. Only thing you guys can do is put lies and threats. You don't know nothing. You don't know what to say so you make up stuff. My family is smart. ( We can actually type words) You wannabes are just a shame from where your really from. I have family and friends all around they don't hate where they from. Casino or not. Recognized or not.
What I don't get is that if you were on OUR shoes you guys would be right behind us. Or maybe take the ignorant route.
So just because we know our history and care, we look bad?
I mean look at you guys. What have you guys done? Drink, smoke, pop, slam?
Don't get me wrong this shouldn't be happening. I don't like the way I'm saying this but don't be talking like your shit don't stink.
The loudest ones are the weakest ones.
So do what you do best and be a sell out.
They say money is the root to all evil but y'all make me wonder.

Anonymous said...

What we should be talking about is enrollment altogether. What are we going to do about our beloved children, grandchildren, great grandchildren who don’t fall under the current enrollment requirement. And most of them have a lot of total blood. Instead of fighting we should be looking into their well being. Every family looks into the faces of at least one generation who can’t be enrolled. It’s heartbreaking.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you 110%

Anonymous said...

Worry about your blood is over and figure out what generation y’all will be back in the tribe it is possible with your kids but sorry not y’all

Anonymous said...

The blood is never over.

Anonymous said...

I run this cite now.....

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

Who died and made you ruler of the cite? Or is it sight? Or maybe site? Until you get it right, no will give you any cred.

Anonymous said...

Don't pay attention to the trouble maker coming on here all of a sudden and talking shit, they are one of Robert's cronies or butt buddies or incest victims, and they obviously are trying to get the people on here to say more and to be agitated. Feel sorry for them that they have to come on here and spew shit and then go back to Robert and kiss his shit.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:11 AM
You are right about talking shit about the ones that are passed.
However I hear no mention how the EC, Smith and Nieto talk shit about the loved ones that have also passed and they sit in judgment and call them liars.
What about them?
They call Vivian Banks a liar, which everyone knows that she was one of the most respected Elders that was always truthful and honest to everyone.
Even off the Reservation she was always known as a truthful and respected woman.
But it's okay for your Chairman to call her a liar and not trustworthy .
Why is it okay for the EC to trash these Elders that have passed on ?
Your Chairman is nothing but a lying no good for little bitch and looks like porky pig and smells like 10 day old fish left on the fishing boat.
He should never been aloud to sit on the EC in the first place he is just following his mothers footsteps by cheating and stealing from the Tribe.
Kill the fuckin liar and be done with all this crap that he and Nieto have done.

Anonymous said...

And this is just the first page of the magnificent Rosinda Cupanish Dictionary. Ha ha ha ha ha ha, Go back to mexico. By the way, Sp. stands for Spanish.

aacha; axe N poss-ki Sp. hacha
aanyu; year N Sp. Ano
aapyu; wild celery N Sp. apio
aaxus; garlic N Sp. ajos
adoovi; adobe N Sp. Adobe
alkanfoor; camphor, camphor tree
N Sp. alcanf6r
almleendras; almond N poss-ki
Sp. almendras
alveerchu; apricot N poss-ki
-Sp. alberchigo
amiigu; friend N poss-ki Sp. amigo
amu-l; agave sp. N
andaniiyu; cloth, yard goods N poss-ki
Sp. andanilla
aniya; ring N poss-ki Sp. Anillo
antyooxu; eyeglasses N poss-ki Sp.
Anteojos
ariina; flour N Sp. harina
aroos; rice N Sp. Arroz
aseeti; oil N poss-ki Sp. Aceite
asta; until Sp. Hasta
astaki; until Sp. hasta que
asuukar; sugar N Sp. azucar
asuuli; blue Adj Sp. azul
atooli; gravy N Sp. atole
aveena; oats N poss-ki Sp. avena
avuuxa; needle N poss-ki Sp. aguja

Anonymous said...

Go finish school lol your evidence !!! This is all you have !!!! Lol omg your beyond retarded. Lololol well maybe margarine butter has a book where we can learn how to speak since she was full blood. Lol her half breed ass. This is why you say she spoke Spanish lololol ok I’m done !!!! Lololol

Anonymous said...

Now I know why I never argued back. Lololol anyway stay hating the tribe and being the negative for the tribe I see why you are all needed. To see what we don’t wanna gossip like or be. Aho my full bloods aho

Anonymous said...

Can anyone on here help me. I have been looking for a Cupeño basket made by Roscinda Nolasquez. Does anyone know here I can find one.

Anonymous said...

@ 7:38 PM
Have you tried the Dollar Store in Temecula, they were on sale for fifty cents.

Anonymous said...

Next time you go into the casino stop and read the wall (if you can read or can stay still that long) and see what names pop up. The one by the hotel has the names of people Robert now says are liars or not who they say they are. Vivian Trujillo banks, Jim Brittain, Margaret Brittain. Sorry but they are Pala’s history whether you like it or not. Next time you wanna talk out your a** read a document or look up what you don’t know and don’t just go by what you are told because it really makes you sound dumb and everyone just laughs at you guy. It really is sad that our tribe has ignorance and uneducated individuals running around embarrassing Pala and their family if this is how they act. The IBIA looked into Margarita Brittain blood and history for years and came to the conclusion she was indeed fullblood Cupeno from Warner ranch. What proof do you have that she was German as you say. It was her white husband she married Jim Brittain as MB was Full Cupeno and their kids were half Cupeno. Know what you sp al of before you open your mouth and save yourself the embarrassment.

Anonymous said...

He’s just on here trying to get the focus off of the financial situation at pala. The casino is losing money. Per cap is going down. Get Robert out of office.

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

The one who is German is Smith. His grandfather was Heinrich Schmitt who Anglicized because Germans were warmongering back in the 1880s and WW1.

Anonymous said...

He’s enrolled

Anonymous said...

Chairman smith has respect for the families. Speaking from an enrolled point of view. Contrary to what is believed I never took any hand outs from him or been paid off that’s too paranoid of a thought, and a waste of money. The fact is no one on here is on the gaming financial board or on the Pala Committee. Maybe one or two enrolled members but other than that your final says are invalid, over exaggerated and pointless.

Anonymous said...

So your full blooded ancestors comes down to three ??? Pathetic. But please post the family tree so we all get an idea of what your talking about.

Anonymous said...

11:11 pm, the signs all point to failure at Pala. If you attended the last meeting, you would have heard Teresa Nieto repeatedly state that the tribe has no money. If you attended the last meeting, you would have heard that Robert Smith raised a question for an audit of the casino due to missing funds. If you attended the last meeting, you would've heard Robert question his hand picked man, Bembenek, and even point fingers at his own executive committee for the failure of the casino enterprise. I've seen Robert Smith countless times disrespect "the families" - I guess you are just spouting out lies, but what is your agenda? If you attended the last meeting and you still are okay with what you heard, then you are a fool.

Since 2013, Indian Gaming in the state of California has slowly recovered from the recession that started in 2008. In 2018, gaming revenues in California are at an all time high and many of the surrounding tribes are successfully increasing their tribal members per capita.

Unfortunately, that is not the case with the Pala Band. After 2012, over $19,000,000 in per capita funds were eliminated from the Pala distribution (via disenrollments), although the estimate of yearly numbers could be a little high or low, depending on what you are counting. My figures are based on 160 members x $120,000 per year. Consequently, you would think per capita would've risen, but the opposite happened. Per capita is at an all time low, maybe down to the 2005 figures, besides the Executive Committee having tricked Tribal members into thinking their per capita was raised because of their shady IRS Code manipulation. The tribe is now pocketing the money it would've paid in federal taxes, so you can add that to the pile of "lost" money.

Well, I'd like to walk around like you with your rose colored glasses on. But, I'm a realist, not a ridiculous fool. Please, take your BS somewhere else.

Anonymous said...

Stop. This is is public and makes everything look bad. Other people are going to see the casino is doing lousy and there’s going to be major ugly publicity when this trial for those elderly people who got attacked happens.

Anonymous said...

@ 11:40pm
Thank you for shutting down these blind idiotic robert supporters who don’t know anything about what’s going on. Some people can’t think for themselves and just spew out nonsense thinking people actually believe their lies the way they do. It’s easier for these cracked out robert supporters (well I would hope they are because someone who speaks,acts, and types like that is sad if not) to just go by what they are told cause they can’t think for themselves. Then again those are the kinds of members rob wants cause they can’t think for themselves and don’t act questions and do what they are told. “A perfect lackey” meanwhile lucid intelligent members are worried about Pala’s future and trying to convince robs blind supporters to open their eyes and see the writing on the wall. These fools probably don’t even go to meetings so they have no right to even open their mouths on tribal matters. I only meeting they would ever go to is the one where rob and Theresa have to announce they are suspending percap for a while because that’s probably all they care about since they love bringing that up saying that’s all the disenrolled care about, oh and being FULLBLOOD cause all of the EC supporters are FULLBLOOD didn’t you know. According to idiot logic if a new family gets on the EC next year and disenroll’s their (the idiot on here talking nonsense) family and re-enrolls the Brittains then the Brittains are fullblood and right cause they are enrolled and the other now disenrolled family just cares about percap and needs to stop whining and are obviously not native cause they are not enrolled cause that’s what %100 determines your blood and the hateful people on the EC are just doing their job. By the way I am a tribal member before you try blaming the disenrolled again and say they are the only ones on here hating on the EC for ruining Pala and speaking the truth.

Anonymous said...

12:19 are you talking about the Yaquipino who attacked defenseless elderly. They have nothing to worry about because Rob will get them the best attorneys and get them off. Of course Pala will pay the bill. Maybe that is the reason we don't have any money.

Anonymous said...

@ 12:19 your casino isn't doing lousy, your being ripped off by your chairman, the general manager, Jim Ryan, oriental card playing gangs, and I'm sure Howard Dickstein is still taking those brief cases full of cash out the back doors also, what other people see (especially other tribes) is a bunch of people who can't seen to get anything done to stop what has become the big pala joke, pala is being laughed at by ALL indian country because of the stipidy of its members to stop what's happening

Anonymous said...

I think the fact that this post gets 102 comments and yet the $100 million dollar boondoggle known as Pala Interactive only gets a few comments sums up a lot of the issues at Pala. People choose not to see the corruption because the corruption benefits them through either cushy jobs, free homes, free vehicles, kickbacks, getting family enrolled that should not be enrolled, getting help with legal trouble, etc.

How many RS supporters want to defend Pala Interactive?

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah that’s why spending all that money on the disenrollies. Put us in debt. They should’ve spoke up and said we are not Indian we don’t have the right to take your money.

Anonymous said...

Haha yaquipino haha they must piss you off they are enrolled and related to the brittish lol and the Germans and the truehoes

Anonymous said...

@ 3:06 PM
The disenrollies deserve more than most on the Pala Poles, no matter what you or anyone else thinks, they were disenrolled for no reason except to show willy and king that Smith and Nieto are in charge and that my friend is bullshit at its finest.
Lets see all of your supporting evidence that you belong on the Tribal Rolls, sorry I can't read Spanish.

Anonymous said...

Michele Cagey

Anonymous said...

Actually there’s a generation of one family who shouldn’t be enrolled who are getting percap really got now. Why don’t they disebrill themselves and Morongo would take them in. Then per cap would be good for everyone.

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

Where is this talk of full blood coming from? Pala members aren't full blood Indians. There is not a single one. Pala blood of the band is fictional. Pala is not a tribe. The BIA put blood degree on the Allotment Rolls and created a Pala blood of the band, but that doesn't make it real.

Our ancestors came from Kupa. They were all full blood before the Spanish arrived and started changing Indian lifestyles by introducing the Mission system and livestock animals.

But that is history and these commenters don't want to think. They just want to rile people up with ridiculous insults.

Robert Smith calling my great aunt Vividness a liar is ridiculous. And what lies did share as proof? Probably the same routine as always. Robert Smith thinks everyone is a liar because he is one.

Anonymous said...

Lol putting names in here just shows how much of a pussy you are “anonymous disenrollie” like I said the ones that belong are enrolled and the ones that aren’t like girl truehoes kids aren’t. Like that pussy Michael Peralta Travalta haha fuckin thought he was Indian turns out hes a mija. Him and his ugly bitch and there ugly ass kids -Anonymous Native

Anonymous said...

You make no sense you white piece of shit. No shit the tribes are mixed. What’s new ? Is this all you gathered from mooching off the Rez ?

Anonymous said...

Fuckin history lesson but try to slide in Margarine Butter as a full blood every time. The fact is your not gonna get re enrolled. Wish in one hand and shit in the other .....see which happens first.

Anonymous said...

Whoever comes on here to judge the tribe and thinks this page means anything it means shit. This page is shit I have fun pissing you pusssies off at least you made a friend. I am a reflection of what this “ financial trail of tears” means to us enrolled tribal members - shit. It’s only a couple people on here that live for this page. It’s shit hahahaha fuck the scotts white as fuck look like racist ass rednecks but claim native fuck them.

Anonymous said...

For all you illiterate un enrolled pussies... I’m glad you all know that the blood for everyone isn’t high. So stop making different families sound more than others or that they belong in the tribe and other families don’t. I’m glad you are starting to accept it. As I see it all the families are on a even playing field - calm down not all even as having the same blood but even as we disenrolled who needed it now we make sure it don’t happen again. The last thing we want is more pages like this where they sneakily talk shit on other families. Speak not one sentence of kupa but claim it and when in reality no one in the tribe is standing with you and if they are... they’re all pussies because they never say it to the family memebers in real time, real life, because they know they’ll get there ass whooped. Lol Tukumay

Anonymous said...

atta boy

Anonymous said...

Look, Robert is trying to exercise his one brain cell, poor boy, don't hurt yourself. This blog is meant to bring enlightenment but you can't stand it when the truth is spoken, and true to form, you lose it! Atta boy. Keep it up!

Reinstatement_Restitution said...

Maybe the reason that the Agua Caliente Cupeno are not confrontational is because there are pending legal actions that would be compromised if we spoke freely.

You call us pussies. You trash our ancestors. You ridicule our blood. Look in the mirror. You're cruel, petty, greedy, and couldn't make a living in the real world unless they pay you for your vices like Robert Smith gets paid for harming the Band.

Haven't you heard that the ACTCI has withdrawn from PBMI? Most of us would prefer to be in control of our own government than to be reinstated in PBMI. I can only speak for myself, but after experiencing the vitriol the PBMI harbors against the Cupeno it would be impossible to feel a part of PBMI again.

So go ahead and insult us. We pretty much feel the same way about you. You are greedy pussies that cower in front of your Chairman and let him rob you blind, lie about it and shift the blame to someone else.

Must give you big time native pride to look at the crap that goes on in Pala and know you are partly responsible.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:43
You talk real tough but are one of the biggest pussy's living in Pala.
How do I know, because I know who you are.
and I know who all of you family and friends are.
So before you go and start calling people names you should check your self and realize who you are.
I am sure that you will not be friends of to many people in Pala when I confront you in a public place real soon about you post.
Then we will see who's a pussy.
Watch back and tell you family they better also watch theirs.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:43 keep it up, you are just helping us prove our point. We see you, hahahaha and your ISP. Just keep commenting, please,it is obvious that you are bugged by this blog, hahahaha, and your words are perfect, wait til you see them in bold on another piece of paper. It is only a matter of time now.

Anonymous said...

The Scott’s look white?

Anonymous said...

Funny how this poster didn’t start coming on here until the finances of pala started getting brought up. Even the band is questioning Roberts actions. Must be a sensitive topic for someone

Anonymous said...

Welcome back Noel-Ass-Kiss. We were worried that you might have gotten picked up in last nights raid. Why is it that when Roscinda speaks bad about Margarita Britten it is all true but when she says her father and grandfather were from Mexico then it is all bullshit. Just asking.

Anonymous said...

Knock your shit mouth talking off you sound so ignorant and stupid you have nothing better to do but to go pick on some other family from Pala Asshole any way

Anonymous said...

If Roscinda is 1/2 Cupeno, that makes Robert Lavato 1/4, and makes Doreen, Mel, DoDo, and Loretta 1/8, making Leroy, Cindy, Sophia, Darlene, etc. 1/16th. Which means all of there kids should not be tribal members, but they are enrolled, pretty crazy mess that was started. Imagine if somebody disenrolled the Lavatos, or changed Roscindas blood to 1/2.

Anonymous said...

when the elders made enrollment criteria in the 60’s wasn’t it stated that ALL Warner ranch evictees would be considered 4/4 (including Margarita Brittain & Rocinda Nolasquez) then work down from there 4 generations??? Then leave enrollment alone. All this is brought up because of the unfair targeted disenrollments which has caused everyone to look back and study the history of tribal members and you find things you may not like. Re-enroll and then leave enrollment and families alone. This is the only thing that will end all this BS forever.
Having another family on the EC in a couple years that disenroll’s the Lugos or lowers the Lavato blood will just keep this BS going and going. There is only 1 way to end this. RE-Enroll and ban all disenrollments. Graton Rancheria did it because they had the foresight to see what could happen.

Anonymous said...

Margarita Brittain is 4/4. Her mother Miguella was and her father Peligrino Sauvil was.

Anonymous said...

It’s Peligrino Saubel. There is a probate of Carolina Nolasquez I believe from 1920’s stating she and Margarita Brittain were half sisters with the same father Peligrino Saubel but different mother who we all know was Cupeno as was Peligrino. Margarita also used the name Margarita Saubel early on which more verifies what Carolina Nolasquez states about Peligrino being their father. Now we all know this is one rumor Robert used to say MB wasn only half Cupeno. This probate has been shown to Robert and the EC but they chose to ignore it because it goes against the outcome they wanted. But it shouldn’t matter anyway since ALL WARNER RANCH EVICTEES are considered 4/4 for enrollment purposes.This is why Robert will not show or give a definitive reason why he lowered MB blood degree because then the Brittains can easily disprove any reason he gives. He only says everyone knows she was white are only half but will not show a document proving this. Have you seen a picture of MB?? That woman has No white in her at all straight up Native all the way. Only her kids had white because she married a white man named Brittain which isn’t even her maiden name. It was Owlinguish I believe. Her descendants have light skin because she and some of her kids married white people not Mexicans like other families which is the only reason they still have dark features not cause they are more native. Look at their last names Mexican last names because many natives hooked up with Mexicans and their descendants maintained dark features. There are enrolled Asians at Pechanga cause members had kids with Asians. So if MB married a mexican “Lopez” and had kids then they would be the Margarita Lopez descendants and probably still have dark features and according to some idiots on here be more native.

Anonymous said...

All Warner Ranch evictees were suppossed to be considered 4/4, but it was voted against. Otherwise, I would be a tribal member. My great-great grandma and great-grandma were both removed from Warners and they listed as 1/2 and 1/4.

Anonymous said...

My grandma used to tell us when we were younger Pechanga has white people enrolled in there tribe Lol

Anonymous said...

All this talk about who's family has more blood of Pala and who belongs and who doesn't Why isn't anyone saying anything about Lil TJ right across from our casino makes pala look so ugly and trashy

Anonymous said...

Sauvil is an original spelling. And what do you mean “ Owlingnish I believe” who are you? IT IS Owlingnish or originally Aulinic.