Monday, January 16, 2017

Homicide on Pala Reservation

Developing story,  not many details yet.  See links below.

San Diego Union Tribune - Homicide investigation underway on Pala Indian Reservation

By Paul Sisson Contact Reporter

Homicide detectives are investigating the death of a 43-year-old woman found outside her home on the Pala Indian Reservation early Monday morning.

Deputies from the sheriff’s Valley Center substation were called to a home on West Pala Mission Road near Chutnicutt Road about 3 a.m. by the Pala Tribal Police Department on a report of an assault with a deadly weapon. When they arrived, deputies found the woman whose body “displayed obvious signs of trauma,” according to a law enforcement statement.

Investigators have not released information on what kind of weapon was used, though several San Diego-area television stations reported that some neighbors in the area heard gunshots.

Anyone with information on the homicide is asked to call (858) 974-2321 or Crime Stoppers at (888) 580-8477.


NBC San Diego - Mother Killed in Suspected Homicide on Pala Indian Reservation

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A mother was killed in a suspected homicide on a Pala Indian Reservation Monday, San Diego County Sheriff's (SDSO) deputies confirmed.

Sheriff's deputies were at the scene where the body was discovered outside, near Pala Mission and Pala Temecula Road. They received a call reporting an assault with a deadly weapon just after 3 a.m.

A deputy at the scene described the situation as "hostile." The tribe was upset that body was not yet covered.

The victim had another son who died four years ago, and the family had also buried a relative recently.


Fox San Diego - Gunman sought in fatal reservation shooting

valleycenterhappenings.com - Homicide Reported in Pala







75 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow, another murder, wtf? May she Rest in Peace. It is probably related to the other two, or at least one of them. Hope they catch the person who did it.

Anonymous said...

Awe why is it never smith or Nieto?? There must be a worse fate in the cards for them? Arrest and humiliation!

palamember said...

Why is it the news crew never gets things right? She lost her oldest son a few years ago, just lost her daughter and buried her on Sunday, then loses her own life the next day. No one deserves this irregardless of others personal feelings. Let's discuss the root of the problem. ...drugs. Until Pala begins a proactive direction of dealing with the drug, outside gang influence more murders will most likely happen.

Anonymous said...

Great job Robert. Keep disenrolling people and cutting per cap. You have everyone at each others throats. Robert doesn't care about pala. Why can't the GC see this.

Anonymous said...

This is what the EC wants to happen.
It's their plan of action and it's going according to plan.
Remember the meeting a couple of months ago when CJ was the target of the EC when Robert had his PUNKS vote to evict her boy friend on something that happened a few years ago.
Then when the man came to visit his son Robert used that against her
and had her home boarded up that was left to her by her Mother when her Mother died.
This is a pattern that the EC has put into action for Members that do not follow their rules.
Her boy friend even gave up the gang life so her could be part of his sons life but that wasn't good enough for the EC.
Remember when Andrew Smith's house got raided by the FBI?
When Robert made them leave the Reservation.
Did he have Andrew's house boarded up and kick him out?
Fuck no, he had Andrews house bulldozed and built him a new house.
And remember when the EC took action against Bernnie Duro Trujillo
because one of her daughters was dating a man from Vista and was found
at Bernie's house.
The next step by the EC was to evict Bernie and take her house and give it a woman that never lived in Pala before which is the daughter of Cindy ALLEN one of Robert's ass kissers.
Oh well I can go on forever but what good will it do if the Members don't care enough to speak up and get this corrupt asshole out of the EC and make Pala a safe place to live again.

Anonymous said...

Wow 1:51 you hit it on the nail head with your comment.
I hope the Pala Members get justice against their leadership before
someone else is targeted by the EC and gets Murdered.
I heard about that meeting when the Chairman of Pala made fun of the
this Lady for trying to stand up for the father of her child.
He must be a heartless son of a bitch.
?question hasn't the FBI or another Law enforcement agency stepped in against the Pala leadership that is running the Reservation like a concentration camp?

Anonymous said...

@1:51 don't need to foment new trouble or bad feelings. It's not the fault of the new house renter what went on before.

Anonymous said...

@ 3:31 PM
Either way you look at the problems in Pala, the finger seems to always point back to the EC and their leader, Smith and Nieto.
They spend the Tribes money like it is theirs, they run the lives of the Members like they own them.
Soon they will rename the Band the Pala Band of Puppets.
You won't even be able to take a shit unless it's approved by the EC,
is this the kind of life that the Ancestors wanted for you.
Well then do something about it.
Either vote them out or call and agree to testify against them when they get the Indictments against them. Don't be pushed and shoved around anymore by this group.
Make the calls and keep the promise.

palamember said...

Wow talk about wrong information. Cj home which is on Assignment...not allotment was raided how many times? They were caught cooking meth and who knows what else. ....with gang ties. Get things right before you spout off. If her home was allotment then no the EC or tribe has no say....and they wouldn't have the right to board it up and completely remodel it. Now to the remodeling. ...you do realize that the home should have been demolished, the ground dug up so many feet and all demo stuff taken away by hazmat because of the cooking of meth. I feel sorry for the person who is moving into the home, especially if they have children because the home and ground is contaminated and could easy affect the new home owners health.

palamember said...

Also don't you find it odd how quickly Anthony Boles house was demolished but yet CJ old home that a meth lab was found wasn't? What's going on?

Anonymous said...

Number one, tribal members need to bring back the sheriff sub station. I was at the meeting when Andrew Smith motioned to not renew the sheriff contract. If the EC says "no" we don't have the money, that's a sign they don't have your best interest at heart. They can forego their hundred thousand salaries for the sake of the tribe to make this happen, if they truly care about your well being. Robert gets plenty of money from other sources so it should be no problem for him, I'm sure his chairman salary is upwards of a quarter million, he doesn't need that money when the welfare and safety of his tribe is at stake. This is a most critical time for the tribe, eyes are watching and will we see the if Robert Smith lead you to a new, safer tribe or will he continue to protect the interests of the wrong doers in the tribe. Old habits die hard, so I'm sure nothing will change and our family members will continue to be at risk. This Executive committee only cares about one thing, themselves.

Anonymous said...

Robert Smith is head of the Pala Gaming Authority. He owns the Pala Casino, and Pala Interactive. As management of the Casino he can legally take 40% of the net revenue as his fee. When the Chairman says money is tight for the PBMI it's because he kept too much for himself.

Anonymous said...

Robert Smith and Theresa Nieto are nothing but a couple of low life little money grabbing little bitches with no concern for Tribal Members.
They buy their friends with stolen Tribal money to keep themselves on a number one list of outstanding good people.
They couldn't careless if the Murdering continues and Members are killed or jailed.
Maybe they will be next to be shot buy someone, after all they are an easy target because they think that they are untouchable.
Think about how much they spend keeping his Daughters out of trouble
with Law Enforcement. It can't be cheap.
But how cares right, just keep the per cap checks coming and we won't say or do anything against you.
People that think this way are no better than Smith or Nieto.
So when the next person is shot and killed in Pala, blame yourself.

Anonymous said...

All the money in the world couldn't buy their way into heaven

Anonymous said...

If they Valley Center Sheriffs office is going to investigate this Murder everyone knows what the outcome will be.
It will depend on how much the EC is willing to spend for the outcome to go their way.
And then you have Bonnie Dumanis with both of her hands out to get paid.
And also everyone knows who Robert and the EC will favor.

Anonymous said...

That's right 1:20AM, he can't afford to lose the large voting block of the woman's family members.

Anonymous said...

Just like at the last Meeting when Smith wanted to evict Mike Lucio
from Pala because Smith said he was a direct threat to the members of the Pala Band because he was selling drugs.
That in it self is a lie. If he was selling drugs why didn't the EC file a complaint with the Valley Center Sheriff dept.
The real reason is Smith considered Mike Lucio a direct threat to him
because Mike Lucio is the father of Smith's step Daughter, Jodi.
Smith was just afraid that he would lose his old lady back to Mike Lucio AGAIN, so again he lied to Members to get them to evict Mr. Lucio and do the dirty work for Smith.
Also Smith lied to the Members by stating that Lucio had no Children living on the Pala Reservation.
Just like he lied to the members about CJ's boyfriend not having any children in Pala.
Now see how Robert will turn everything around just to get what he wants from the Members.

Anonymous said...

The people (the tribe) should pick a day and all gather at the admin building and parking lot and settle in and refuse to leave until smith and Nieto give into our demands. We want an outside auditor to be hired and we want fair meetings where everything. And be discussed not just smiths agenda. Like a strike, hey it works for company workers and it worked when the natives took over Alcatraz. Problem is we need members who are not afraid to stand up to robert.

Anonymous said...

For your information she was never busted for cooking meth the girl didn't even smoke cigarettes in their so before you r run your mouth get your facts right you sound so silly its funny and they only raided it once dumb ass

palamember said...

Mike Lucio fathered more than 1 child in Pala. He has 3. He has 2 daughters (including Jodi) & 1 son. I won't say who they are out of respect for the families. He was never involved with any of them. Until the last meeting I didn't even know he was still around.

palamember said...

As a previous comment was made about Mike Lucio being a "direct threat " to the Pala community....what's with the double standard? His 1 daughter driving around with drugs, an assault gun w/silencer isn't a threat? The other daughter involved with a murder. ..what the hell Robert.

palamember said...

They raided that home more than once. And were cooking meth in the storage unit next to it. Anybody with brains knows cooking meth contaminates the whole area. She may not have been cooking but the boyfriend was.

Anonymous said...

He was cooking dinner for the family.
What's wrong with that?
Too many haters with the brain cell's of a skunk.
Don't worry Mr. Smith, no one knows where you are cooking your shit
and growing your weed up in Rainbow.
Oh shit, sorry about that,I meant to push delete not publish.

Anonymous said...

Where at in Rainbow?
I will go and dig them up, For medical use. Hah Hah.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't Mike Lucio renting on private property from Gary Gonzales?
If so how could Robert evict him without the Landowners consent.
I think you are right 6:34, Robert felt a direct knowing that Mike Lucio was around the Pala area so again he tricked the Membership into believing that it was a direct threat to the Reservation.
As far as the drug dealing goes it probably was cutting into Roberts income.

palamember said...

If it's allotment then Robert overstepped his boundaries. The Tribe nor EC has any legal rights to allotments. Robert cannot legally evict him, only Gary can. Talk about opening up a can of worms.

Anonymous said...

All these comments AND STILL NOTHING WILL BE DONE CAUSE EVERYONE IS STILL SCARED AN DONT WANT TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE TRIBE.AND TAKE IT BACK FROM THE THIEVES.AN THE PEOPLE WHO DI HAVE THE GUTS YOUVE ALL ALLOWED THEM TO DISENROLL THEM AN HAVE TURNED YOUR BACKS ON THEM.

Anonymous said...

Actual the tribe has jurisdiction over tribal lands, and since allotments are within the boundaries of tribal lands, the tribe can legally evict anybody from traveling onto tribal lands.

Anonymous said...

The property where Gary Gonzales lives is part of an allotment that was past on to him through his mother.
She got it from her Father Faustino Chutnicut, so the EC did overstep there power.
But who cares right just keep the checks coming every month.

palamember said...

Allotments that have access to public roads....no they do not have authority or jurisdiction on that property. If what you are saying was true then why is nothing ever done about the Bar S property?

palamember said...

No they don't. It's privately owned family land beyond Tribal jurisdiction. They can put whoever they want on the property. However depending on where the property is located the Tribe can lock them in/out depending on what the original ingress/egress contract states. If there is a contract it cannot be broken. If the allotment has access to public roads the Tribe definitely has no say. As I stated below if what you are saying is true then why was nothing ever said about the Bar S ranch a privately owned prop

palamember said...

Property. I agree the drug/gang situation is out of control.

Anonymous said...

According to the Pala Tribal Court tresspassing within the boundaries of the reservation, whether the property is allotted or not, private or not, is under the jurisdiction of the tribe, and the person can be arressted. He would have to hide and stay on the property without being seen.

Anonymous said...

Pala Tribal Court is full of shit.
They don't even have a real judge to make determinations on Laws, Federal, State or Tribal.
They run to Robert Smith and he makes the decisions on the outcome
of who gets to do whatever.
This is wrong and should be dealt with in a legal manner so people will know their rights of all the Laws including Federal, State and Tribal.
The Pala Tribal Court is run by a Security Officer anyway.

Anonymous said...

Why does the Pala Tribal Court allow certain Tribal Members to deal drugs.
Or did they (the dealers) get a drug permit issued to them by the EC?

Anonymous said...

LEGALLY, in reality, not Robert's world, he and no one else has jurisdiction over private family land. His laws cannot apply to allotments.

Anonymous said...

So according to you, the jurisdiction of the Tribe and Pala Tribal court also covers the Bar S ranch which is private property. If that is the case then why aren't some of thise undesirables evicted and kicked out?

Anonymous said...

i thought pala was not involved in the tribal court thing anymore i wish they would make up there minds

Anonymous said...

They have made up their mind, they got rid of the real judge and opted instead to go with a kangaroo court

Anonymous said...

It's a cover up so Smith can have extra money.
It was included in the Budget at Fridays meeting.
But when the dis-enrollments were done the EC opted out of the Tribal Court System so that those affected would not be able to use the court system against the EC.
Pretty low life of them don't you think.
Then they include it the budget and no one ask any questions.
I wonder how much Robert pays to the ones making the motions to approve all the budgets as requested.

Anonymous said...

Is it the actual tribal court that all tribes are involved in or just a Pala tribal court that does what slobert says?? I know Slobert pulled Pala out of the tribal courts before disenrolling so they would have no recourse. He knew his reasoning for disenrolling wouldn't holed up in any court or under anybody who looked at it becUse there was no legit reason other than "because I said so" and I'm sorry mr smith "because I said so" would not holed up anywhere and he knows this. Pala is a dictatorship that answers to no one that's how slobert gets away with so everything.

Milts Friends said...

FREE MILTON TRUJILLO, IT WAS SELFDEFENCE.

Anonymous said...

People need to remember this was a murder. You know how the rez is, alot of conflicting rumors. However there is a common denominator. ...there are witnesses. I've heard it was CJ boyfriend, even her son....so hopefully the agents will sort through this. I'm not excusing Milton who may have just been at the wrong place, wrong time.

Anonymous said...

YOUR SO IGNORANT AT 3:27 AM IN THE MORNING REALLY IT TOOK YOU TOO DRINK AND POST THAT THERE'S NO SELF DEFENSE IN THE CASE WEAK ALL WEAK

Anonymous said...

FREE MILTON TRUJILLO, YOU HAVE THE WRONG ONE LOCKED UP.DON'T HESITATE
INVESTIGATE.DON'T GO BY HEARSAY, GET THE FACTS.
AND FOR SURE DON'T LISTEN TO THE PALA E/C, THEY ONLY KNOW WHAT THE RUMMORS ARE.

Milts Friends said...

I think I will start a "GO FUND ME" account to raise bail money for Milton.
FREE MILTON TRUJILLO.

Anonymous said...

Robert wife still cares for Mike Lucio,they had there first kid together,thats why Robert wants him off the rez.

Anonymous said...

Hows that go fund me going hahahahahhahahahahhahahaha u would make more for a go fund me for a flea with aids

Anonymous said...

Under federal law, tribal jurisdiction extends over all property within its boundaries, which includes private property. The only exceptions are criminal laws depending on who the perpetrators and victims are, tribal or non-tribal, Native or non-Native. Since California is a PL 280 state, tribal laws are only allowed civil infractions against anybody within its boundaries which includes private properties. If you have individuals committing crimes on the rez and then hiding on private property within the rez, the tribe has the right to banish that individual from the reservation, but only when he is on tribal property and not on private property. Its different in States that are not PL 280. Also, tresspassing is not a felony, but a misdeameanor and falls under State jurisdiction, but since individuals tresspass on tribal land they are then subject to jail time and arressted by the Sheriff for tresspassing on tribal lands.

Anonymous said...

Nona scotts mother is a Trujillo,Alices,father is Alvino Trujillo.Vivian Banks,was Alvios sister,so Nona you have Trujillo blood,so why do you let Robert Smith do this to your people.Robert took blood from your aunt Vivian.

Anonymous said...

I wish that someone would take Robert Smiths blood and spread it all over the Admin parking lot.
As for Nona she never got the chance to know her Mother.
I wish that she would have gotten the chance because her Mother was a sweet gentle woman with many values.
She loved her tuna sandwiches with chips and a Pepsi Cola.

Anonymous said...

I think that Robert has the Scott family members afraid of him
and because of the fear factor they do what he wants them to do.
After all he married one of them because she felt sorry for him cause no one wanted him.
Only his cousin.

Anonymous said...

I remember,Nonas mother too,she was a great,honest lady.She would not let this stuff happen.

Anonymous said...

FESTER IS THE GUILTY ONE FOR CJ MURDER.

Anonymous said...

I think the e.c. should take the allotments,from all the people that get a percap,they should give up there land to receive benefits,from P.B.M.I.

Anonymous said...

Huh? That doesn't make sense. If they are Tribal members whether or not what type of land they live on doesn't matter. Who the heck is Fester?

Anonymous said...

I'm so dumb....meant the Lee bar ranch.

Anonymous said...

to 8:23 I mean those who have allotments,from old pala,that was there res.now they receive money from P.B.M.I.they should have a choice where they want to be enrolled.

Anonymous said...

Fester was Carol Jeans boyfriend.

Anonymous said...

Lol....thought you were referring to Fester from Gunsmoke.

Anonymous said...

Dennis Weaver played the character Festus on Gunsmoke. Jackie Coogan played Uncle Fester on the Addams Family. Neither of them committed murder at Pala.

Anonymous said...

Dennis Weaver played the role of Chester Good. Ken Curtis played the role of Festus Haggen. Ken Curtis died years ago so we can rule him out.

Anonymous said...

Okay 3:46 solve the real Murders in Pala.

Anonymous said...

What do allotments have to do with enrollment?

Anonymous said...

if you you look at crime records for the local area its the same people from the same families getting arrested again and again,that's where i would start looking.don't worry about allotments smith doesnt follow the constitution

Anonymous said...

It was a joke. Did not remember the name of CJ boyfriend.

Anonymous said...

The allotments rolls were used for the PBLMI base membership roll. Only those who appeared on, or were a direct descendant of, with 1/16th blood of the band or more, could be enrolled.

Anonymous said...

old pala had there own res,across the river,they got allotments.If they want to get enrolled with P.B.M.I.Old pala should give up all there rights,like someone enrolled in another tribe to get enrolled in pala they have to give up all rights .

Anonymous said...

Are you saying that PBMI is a tribe? That is not true. PBMI is an association formed in 1959. The original membership roll of PBMI consisted of those who names appeared on the 1895 Old Pala Allotment roll, and the 1913 allotment and their lineal descendants of 1/16th or greater degree of blood of the band.

The Pala Luiseno never had a membership roll. The BIA used the census of Old Pala to determine who was a member until the formation of PBMI in 1959, actually 1961 when the first roll was approved by the Secretary of the Interior.

Anonymous said...

pbmi is from mexico

Anonymous said...

How dare you such a thing like that 5:38.
PBMI is from Germany, just ask Chairman Schmitt.
Better call the White House and have Trump deport his ass.

Anonymous said...

you know the Justice system is really fucked up.
Next month marks the 1 year Anniversary of Bradley Trujillo's Murder
and the DA's office just released one of the men that was involved
with helping the suspect on an OR.
Christopher Cloninger was released from jail tonight on a promise to appear back in court for a sentencing hearing in April.
Even after having bail set at $500.000 dollars he got an O.R.release.
You know he will skip on the court date.
I guess he and Anthony Boles turned on Tyanne Allen and got a kiss from Bonnie Dumanis.
They are supposed to testify against her at trial.

Anonymous said...

Wow another girl going down for Anthony Boles, well if he is guilty he will have to eventually pay. The whole thing is horrible.

Anonymous said...

According to some info that I got through certain friends is that none of there stories seem to match.
So I guess Boles and Cloninger agreed to testify against Tyanne Allen
in exchange for their freedom, or a lessor sentence of a couple of years and the Allen woman with probably get life without parole.
I just cannot believe that Boles still has this kind of luck.
There is however a chance that Boles and Cloninger will not survive
in Prison, even doing a reduces sentence could be a life sentence for them because Bradley has a whole lot of friends in the system and once word gets to them about these 2 narcs, they won't be very friendly towards them, they both would make nice little bitches in
Prison.
And Anthony Boles thinks that his size will make them afraid of him
HA hA, because the bigger you are the harder you fall.
Good luck Anthony Poo and Christy poo.


Anonymous said...

Christopher is not guilty for the deAth of Bradley.