Sunday, November 1, 2015

PBMI General Council Meeting Nov 11, 2015 Agenda


November's PBMI General Council meeting agenda items largely relate to the lawsuit filed against Dentons US LLP and Robert Smith.  There's a lot going on here including amending the Constitution at a General Council meeting and approval of multiple attorney contracts.  Looks like another power grab by the Executive Committee.


PBMI General Council Meeting Nov 11 2015 Agenda

62 comments:

Anonymous said...

this agenda is not an agenda, it's a request for more power by little Hitler to gain more power over the Members of the Tribe.
The General Members hardly have any say as to what takes place on the Reservation as it is, and now after all the years that the General Membership has had the Authority to determine who should be banished or evicted from the Reservation, the EC wants the GC to give that power to them, NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR THE TRIBAL MEMBERS.
We all know that if the EC doesn't like what you say or do they will kick you off the Reservation if this is approved and that's something that should be left up to the General Membership to decide, as it always has been.
I really think that this is a power grab because of the land assignment ordinance that was voted down a couple of meetings ago.
If you stop and think about it, this new amendment could be used to enforce the dead ordinance that was voted down. That why they STATED
MEMBERS AND NON MEMBERS on this request.
I hope that the PALA MEMBERS are to smart to approve such a POWER GRAB
REQUEST BY THE EC.VOTE NO CHANGE ON THIS OR THEY WILL KICK YOU OUT IF YOU DO SOMETHING THAT THEY DO NOT APPROVE OF.THINK ABOUT IT.
VOTE NO, VOTE NO,VOTE NO,VOTE NO, please. No more power grabs by the EC if you want a change on the Reservation.

Anonymous said...

Also PALA MEMBERS, look at the list of Attorneys they want approved for the Tribe. Special attention to "D".
Sara Dutschke. Dentons Law firm.
This is the Law Firm that is being sued by a Tribal Elder. The suit is posted here on this blog. Sara D. is the same Attorney that uses Tribal Money against Tribal Elders to defend the EC against allegations by Tribal members.
This is wrong in so many ways to use Tribal Funds to defend Robert Smiths personal agenda and crimes , and Lawsuits that have been filed against him and not the Tribe.
He uses this firm and pays with Tribal Funds. VOTE NO ON DENTONS CONTRACT.
This could also be a plan from RS to say that Dentons Law Firm was approved by the General Membership, which would help him, and him only on the pending Lawsuit. VOTE IT DOWN WE NEED HONEST ATTORNEY'S FOR THE TRIBE.VOTE IT DOWN, DO NOT APPROVE DENTONS AS LONG AS SARA IS CONNECTED TO THE FIRM.

Anonymous said...

HOW DOES THE EC EXPECT THE MEMBERSHIP TO APPROVE THESE CONTRACTS, WHEN THE GC DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THESE CONTRACTS ARE FOR AND WHATS WRITTEN IN THEM.
THATS LIKE VOTING ON ISSUES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.I GUESS THE EC THINKS THAT THE MEMBERS ARE DOUMB OR SOMETHING. AGAIN VOTE IT DOWN. VOTE NO.
Until we know what the contracts say. VOTE THEM DOWN.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like the EC is getting nervous about the case against Robert. Thank you for proving that Sara really wasn't the tribes attorney at the time of the incident. You guys are really making this lawsuit easy

Anonymous said...

That's true 2:16 PM. We might be cutting our own throats, as to what's in the Attorney's contracts. That's why it's important to vote it down. We as Members have that right, and we should use that right
before the EC takes that one also.

Anonymous said...

You are correct 8:34 PM.
I herd from a good source that the EC needs to show that the Band approved the hiring of Dentons along with Sara D. Before the courts set a date to hear the lawsuit. There is no way that they can prove this issue and they are also nervous about the ASIA's approval, because the ASIA nor the BAND never approved anything concerning Dentons Law Firm, and for sure not Sara Dingelberry.
They are probably doing the old cut and paste routine.

Anonymous said...

Even if the hire approved ( which we all know it will be... Since every motion is fixed anyway to benefit the ChairDick anyway)
It's not retroactive.. Meaning the hire date will be YEARS after the damage was done
Try again Mr ChairDick..
And we that still get per cap need to REALLY READ THE 'AGENDA', they tried to take our land, now they want our voices. If they take our voices, our money will be next and there will be nothing we can do they will have all the power and we will have handed it to them willingly SHAME ON US!!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Sara D. will defend Roberts Smiths daughter Victoria Smith.
She was arrested on 10/22/2015 for giving false information to a peace officer ,this is according to local crime news, and recent arrest for Pala Area. Another big pay out for DA Bonnie Dumanis.

Anonymous said...

What a F-ing joke, 8 attorneys? lets see thats 1 for casino biz, 1 each for every E.C. member. that's 6, and Sara Shitsallow to help with more disenrollments, I guess P.B.M.I. does need 8 attorneys, what a ripoff joke Slobert Smith has become, when is the next per-cap cut?

Anonymous said...

per cap cut is coming soon. probably around feb. or march. of 2016.
can't blame anyone but the members. Everyone wants to keep the EC like it is and don't want to change anything.
So if they cut the per cap it's your faults for keeping the EC in office.
Stand up to the EC and vote them out before they start charging you to live on the Reservation.
That sounds funny doesn't it? But the way things are going anything is possible.
Better watch who you vote for this election, like Eric the ass kisser will not do shit except do what he is told to do by Smith.
Don't be fooled by Eric he is a "Yes Sir Mr. Chairman" kind of guy.

Anonymous said...

I hope that Kyle Felt reads this blog along with Mr. Stevens, so they don't just raise there hands up to approve this power grab like they always do because they are big ass kissers of Smith and the EC.

Anonymous said...

Why so many attorneys and how much does each cost?
Now you want to take more power away from the GC.
You are a piece of crap smith.

Anonymous said...

So the general council has been paying for all of these attorneys for all these years and yet never even new it, because the GC never approved them. Even though it's in our constitution that the GC approve the attorneys. What else is Robert hiding from us?

Anonymous said...

Maxcy is the same as Erik they are both just yes man to Robert. Either way Pala is no better off it either of them is in office. We need new people on the EC not tied to Rober or Nieto to lead Pala to prosper.

Anonymous said...

When the current EC puts out an AGENDA like this one, you know damn well that there is more to it than the line items on a piece of paper.
They are up to something and by them requesting another power grab just proves that they are doing something that the General Membership may not approve of.
It would be a better move for the Tribe to just leave things as they are and vote no on these agenda items until such time that the EC stops hiding the true agenda from the members of the Band. This one that includes both Members and non-members will be held over the heads of Residents of the Reservation to fulfill the EC wants for more power so they can make Members and Non Members do as they are told by the EC and the EC can put the blame back on the General Membership for approving these items vote no people.

Anonymous said...

@2:18 PM
I believe you may be on to something here.
If these items are approved by the GC the EC can put the blame back on the Membership and say it was voted on and it's the will of the people.
So anything that comes out of these Agenda Items, good or bad it will be put on the Members and not the EC.
The Members need to think when voting on these issues and not vote because so and so did. You are giving more power to them to beat the Members down, and to control everyone that lives in Pala.
Also why can't the GC approve the Renegotiating of the Gaming Compact, we have the right to know first hand what is in this compact
and it should be approved by the Membership, and not by 5 or 6 people who have brought more shame to Pala than any other criminals around.
This Compact is the Lively Hood of the Band and it should be approved at a special meeting concerning this issue only.Vote everything down.

Anonymous said...

How many members know that Bozo the clown, (Robert Smith) had Dickstein and Jerry Turk negotiate Pala's first compact under the name of PALA BAND OF LUISNEO MISSION INDIANS? That's right, the casino is built on warners ranch evictee's land, but the state gaming compact is for OLD PALA ! Legal?, not in the least! Why does percap decrease? because lets face it, Robert steals a hell of alot, and its costing millions for the powers that be to let your beloved casino continue operating, Robert knows anyone other than his thieving ass being involved in negotiations and realizing its for old pala and not P.B.M.I. will cause him to much trouble. Why does he do it you ask? Simple, P.B.L.M.I. is federally recognized, P.B.M.I. is not. That being said, you still cant build a casino on a reservation with a compact from another reservation/tribe. Robert cant do anything legal or right and its going to blow everyone sky high and dry, that possibility is real people.

Anonymous said...

If this is true then I hope that karma catches up to him and take his sorry ass to the hole that's waiting for him 6'under.
You know Robert and any other EC Member's if you have singed any thing under any other name than other the Pala Band of Mission Indians, you are cutting your life short because I believe that the Creator will show you what happens when you double cross his People. It will destroy your whole family and loved ones first. They will suffer and you will live to see them suffer for your wrong doings that you all have caused. I know that you don't believe in the Customs and Traditions of the Native Americans that are wronged by there own Leaders but there is much truth in them and you will soon see for yourself what the out come will be.

Anonymous said...

SO MEMBERS OF PALA WHAT THIS BOILS DOWN TO IS, SAY ROBERT SMITH HAS A BONNER FOR A MEMBER AND WANTS TO BANISH HIM/HER,BY YOU APPROVING THIS AMMENDENT HE WILL SAY THAT YOU THE MEMBERS DID IT. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT FOR THE RESERVATION.
MAYBE IF HE WAS AN HONEST CHAIRMAN IT MIGHT WORK AND THATS A BIG MAYBE.
IT WOULD BE ALOT SAFER TO LEAVE THINGS AS THEY ARE FOR NOW.
THE PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE SAY ON THESE MATTERS AND THE PEOPLE SHOULR RETAIN THIS OPTION AS IT IS OUR RIGHT.
DON'T BE CRAZY AND GIVE THIS POWER GRAB TO THE EC.THERE IS NO NEED TO DO SO, NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS AT THE MEETING.VOTE IT DOWN.

Anonymous said...

Well I guess smith has been a busy boy today sucking the Dumanis but hole because his Daughters info is all wiped out on the crime new site and on the DA's website as well.

Anonymous said...

Wow, of course Robert took care of it. This stress has got to be getting to him. He cannot hold out too much longer before the shit hits the fan. All of these people involved with him will be known once he is taken care of and those people will not look good in this light at all. Karma is coming, practically knocking on his door. He obviously has set a great example for his daughters and is helping them to be just like him.
Pretty sure that if someone is bad and living on the rez, if they cause trouble then all the people have to do is call the police and voila, the police can arrest them, they do not need the EC to do that for them. The EC won't get rid of the gangsters, they will get rid of the good people and turn Pala into a Chicago.

Anonymous said...

Vote the asshole out of office. That's all you have to do. What's the big deal on getting rid of him. From what people in my town are saying is that everyone is afraid of him.
If this is true then just get him fucked up and do away with whatever is left of him.Dump him in that big pond on hwy 76 east of the 15.
Problems solved.
I mean if this dude is as rotten as people say he is, no one will miss him.
Even down here in Oceanside there is talk about how he treats the Members of your Tribe and it's not good at all.
I thought that Indians were proud people but after hearing what this guy does to people, I don't know.
I an surprised that someone hasn't shot him or taken him out for the way his is.
I think that soon someone just might do it anyway.
I got to go to work but I will check in later today and see if he is still breathing.

Anonymous said...

The general council should be involved in everything on the Rez. From the casino to evictions. Don't give up your power. Do you want someone else making these decisions for you? Why does the EC want to make decisions without your input?

Anonymous said...

OMG! I just checked the NIGC website for Pala. It came up with the list of gaming tribes and the Pala Band of Luiseno Mission Indians is listed. WTF! I think it means Old Pala is a gaming tribe. No PBMI listed. How come Robert did it this way? Old Pala is part of PBMI. The casino is supposed to be for everyone not just the Luisenos. Does that mean the Luisenos can take it over?

Anonymous said...

No, the pala casino is NOT on old pala land, it is on warners ranch evictees land. So welcome to the world of Robert Smith deception. Understand old pala and the PALA INDIAN RESERVATION are 2 separate reservations, no matter how you slice it and dice it its the truth! Robert is going to fuck all of P.B.M.I. when its all said and done. Again, let me explain as simple as possible, you need to be federally recognized to be considered a sovereign indian tribe and also to be eligible to operate a "LEGAL" gaming establishment, P.B.M.I , is not federally recognized, old pala is, they were awarded federal recognition the same time the Auga Caliente tribe was in warners, so the auga caliente got moved to the pala valley on land purchased for them separate from old pala. 2 SEPARATE RESERVATIONS! It is illegal to operate a casino on land separate from the land the compact was approved for, I've said it before the disenrollee's can nuke the whole casino operation if they decided to do so, after all everyone thinks its cool to watch them get ripped off so why not get it shut down. you people better take a close look at what fuckface Robert is doing over there

Anonymous said...

So that's why the EC wants you to vote for them to Renegotiate the gaming compact without the approval of the General council.
He doesn't want the people to see that it is under the Luiseno Bands name.MAKE HIM EXPLAIN THIS BEFORE ANY VOTE OR POWER GRAB IS APPROVED.
OR KISS YOUR PER CAPITA GOOD BY.

Anonymous said...

THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY THE PEOPLE ARE PUSHING TO HAVE YOU VOTE FOR PETER TRUJILLO SR. FOR VICE CHAIRMAN.THE TRIBE NEEDS TO HEAL AND PETE IS NOT A YES MAN.
SO IF YOU REALLY WANT A CHANGE IN THE EC HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

Anonymous said...

After reading some of the above post about a power grab you Pala Members better watch what you are voting to approve.
As for the Agenda for the next meeting you all should really ask questions about what they want and notion to table the amendments to the next meeting. This would be the smartest move or just vote it down and it will be a dead issue for at least a year.

Anonymous said...

I think it's time for the General membership to take a stand and demand answers from Smith and the EC before any other business is conducted under any of the names that Robert is using.
It's also time for the Membership to file a complaint against the BIA Regional office before Amy D. retires. She has hurt this Tribe as much as Smith has and she needs to be punished to the fullest extent as soon as possible.
Which ever one falls first, Robert or Any the one standing will for sure take the other one down with them.
They will also take all involved also, because they will blame each other, and all that were aware of the wrong doings which caused harm to Pala and other Reservations that were affected.
If we don't act on this they will be laughing there asses off saying how stupid we all are for trusting them.

Anonymous said...

they already do

Anonymous said...

The EC needs to explain what each Attorney does for the Tribe and get an accounting of services rendered by each law firm that the Tribe has paid them and what the services were for.
And no Attorney's should be hired unless they are approved by the General Membership, and the ASIA.
There seems to be a lot of money spent on these Attorney's and no one has any idea what the services were for.
Have the EC post the Canceled checks on the monitor so we can all see what has been paid out to them.
I did notice that on the budget sheets that were given out for the last budget and the one prior, that there was a lot of money in the budget for marked only as Legal Fees. It totaled out to almost 40,000
for both budgets. And there was more money that was budgeted for Attorney's also.

Anonymous said...

This is exactly what happens when you give more power to an EC that abuses the Members like the Pala EC does.
It's only going to get worse if you Members don't stop it now and take the power away from them and give it back to the General Membership as it should be.
Act before they take every thing from you.

Anonymous said...

THE BIGGEST MISSING LINK ON THIS LIST OF SCAVENGERS IS....

HOWARD DICKSTEIN

Robert will never divulge how much he (Dickstein) has been paid, probably since much of the money paid to him was from the casino and it's a well known open secret that he was paid a percentage of the casino revenue. Sounds like a management agreement to me, but the NIGC won't touch this with a ten foot pole.

Now, I've even seen Howard arrive on a limo directly from the French Valley airport courtesy of Pala Tribe on one occasion. I even have pictures, but he's not on this list???!!! O-U-T-R-A-G-E-O-U-S! This went on for years...so tell me why Dickstein isn't on this list???!!!

Now, you may be interested in knowing that Jane Zerbi is his partner, but still, why is Dickstein ELIMINATED ENTIRELY from this list? Is it because he is the main puppet master who can't afford another controversy? Can you say Rumsey?

Don't worry, his multi-million dollar pad in San Francisco, his jet and his collection of Ferrari are just the tip of the iceberg in the lavish lifestyle that you, Pala Members, have allowed because you give Robert Smith unlimited power to do whatever he pleases. ARE YOU TOO IGNORANT TO SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL???

By the way, do you think that there is just one per capita check level paid to members? Why do you think he has such loyalist? Can a little extra money each month buy complete ignorance and loyalty? Yep, you betcha.

There are zero checks and balances in place at Pala, and that is exactly why you, Pala Members, are in the mess you are in. So, go ahead and give away what little powers you have left, really, you have done such a good job being complacent, what is one more failure on YOUR part.

Funny thing is, most of you are too blind to see it...or at least you are being paid off to look the other way.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree the above post.
So why are you looking the other way people?
Don't any of you care about what our Ancestors fought and died for?
Why are you letting RS control your right to this money that belongs to you all, as Members the Pala Band of Mission Indians.
This agenda is a big joke and needs to be TRASHED by any means.
The EC is trying to gain the power from the Members to control every aspect of the Reservation. There are talks of more Dis-enrollments coming soon, after the voting is over.
Robert Smith is running scared right now and he knows that if he doesn't get rid of another voting block that opposes him he will not get re-elected next year. So this is his plan, he can use this change to get what he wants from the Members and he DOES NOT CARE WHO HE HURTS IN HIS QUEST TO OBTAIN THIS POWER.
there IS NOTHING TO BE GAINED BY THIS AMENDMENT EXCEPT FOR THE EC TO HAVE THE POWER OVER TRIBAL MEMBERS.AND THAT IS WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS ALL ABOUT.THE EC WANTS THIS POWER OVER THE MEMBERS SO THEY CAN DO AS THEY PLEASE WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP.
SO FELLOW MEMBERS IF YOU VALUE YOUR TRIBAL MEMBERSHIP AND YOUR INCOME FROM THE CASINO YOU BETTER VOTE THIS AMENDMENT DOWN OR YOU ARE PUTTING EVEYTHING IN JEPORDY,BECAUSE THE EC WANTS FULL CONTROL OVER YOU ALL.
ALSO THIS AMENDMENT CHANGE WOULD GIVE THE EC THE POWER THAT THEY WERE SEAKING ON THE LAND ASSINGMENT AMENDMENTS THAT WERE VOTED DOWN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO.THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY THAT THE EC IS TRYING TO TRICK YOU TO APPROVE THESE AMENDMENTS TO COVER UP THE ONES THAT GOT VOTED DOWN,AND TO MAKE FUN OF THE MEMBERS FOR BEING STUPID AND PLAYING RIGHT INTO THE HANDS OF RS AND THE EC.TURN IT PEOPLE IT'S NO GOOD FOR THE TRIBE.LEAVE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE ALONE OR LOSE EVERYTHING.WE FOR SURE NEED TO STSRT CHANGING THE EC AND GIVE THE OOWER BACK TO WHERE IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE,IN THE PEOPLE.
ONRE MORE THING, IF THIS IS NOT VOTED DOWN THE EC CAN AND WILL KICK EVEN TRIBAL MEMBERS OUT WITHOUT THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP EVEN KNOWING WHY.IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR RESERVATION.
THE POWER IS IN THE PEOPLE, DO NOT GIVE ANYMORE POWER TO THE EC, TAKE THE POWER BACK AND USE IT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL TRIBAL MEMBERS NOT JUST A FEW.

Anonymous said...

MOTION TO TABLE ALL AMENDMENTS UNTIL AFTER VOTING IS COMPLETE.
THE EC SEEMS TO BE IN BIG HURRY TO GET THIS PASSED BEFORE VOTING IS COMPLETE, MAYBE THEY ARE AFRAID THAT IF A CHANGE IS MADE TO THE EC THEY MAY NOT GET THINGS DONE SO EASILY.THE EC HAS ENOUGH POWER OVER TRIBAL MEMBERS ALREADY AND HAVE USED IT WRONGLY IN THE PAST.
IF YOU ENJOY LIVING HERE AND CARE ABOUT YOU TRIBE THEN YOU BETTER VOTE THE AMENDENTS DOWN OR YOU WILL LOSE EVERY THING EVEN YOUR HOMES THAT THE EC WANTS FULL CONTROL OVER.
PLEASE MEMBERS VOTE THIS POWER GRAB DOWN, AND DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE EC ANYMORE.

Anonymous said...

Robert is pushing the issue probably because he needs the tribe's approval before he goes to court against Willie and he wants to disenroll Willie, King, and the Lugos. He has to do this before court, he is not supposed to be using the tribe's lawyers for his own personal law suits. He used the lawyers against the Brittens in their civil suit, and each EC member was supposed to pay for their own attorneys not use the tribes. The tribe is not in the lawsuit, the tribe has never been in any lawsuit against the disenrollees, it has always been Robert, the EC, and Government, but never the tribe. Do not let Robert make you think that we are against the tribe. We are for the tribe, we want Pala to be what it was, it is our home, our loved ones are still members and we do not want to hurt them. We just want truth, peace, and content.

Anonymous said...

just look what they want.
# 1 They want the power from you to do evictions of non Members from the Reservation.
#2 They want the power from you to evict even Tribal Members from the Reservation.
#3 They want the power to approve all Attorney contracts for Pala, from you.
#4 They want the power from you to Renegotiate the Gaming compact without your approval.
The General Council doesn't have very much power as it is, and now the EC wants even more power from you.
They want to be able to approve any and all Attorney contracts, Why?
its always been the people that approve them. What are they trying to hide from you.
The general Membership has always had the say as to who get Banished or Evicted from the Reservation, and now the EC wants this power grab so they can use it even against TRIBAL MEMBERS and non members.
If you give them this power they will be able to disenroll, banish, and evict anyone that they want gone without the General Membership approval, this is not a good move for the Tribe or its Members.
They could use this to even disenroll you or you family members from the Tribe and the General Members won't be able to do anything about it.PLEASE MEMBERS DO NOT GIVE THIS POWER GRAB TO THE EC, KEEP WHAT LITTLE POWER THAT YOU HAVE LEFT, AND EVEN WORK TO GAIN THE POWER BACK THAT YOU GAVE THEM , THEY WAY IT SHOULD BE IS THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE POWER AND THE EC SHOULD SIT ON THE COUNCIL AND DO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT INSTEAD OF WHAT THE EC WANTS.
THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP HAS ALWAYS HAD THE SAY IN THE BANISHMENT, EVICTIONS, DISENROLLMENTS, AND ATTORNEY CONTRACTS AND THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP SHOUD RETAIN THIS POWER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE TRIBE.
TO INCLUDE TRIBAL MEMBERS IN THIS AMENDMENT IS WAY WRONG ON THE PART OF THE EC AND MUST HAVE A HIDDEN AGENDA ON THIS ISSUE.
I BELIEVE THAT THEY COULD USE THIS POWER GRAB TO BRING BACK TO LIFE THE LAND ASSINGMENT AMENDMENT THAT WAS VOTED DOWN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO.
SO NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE DO NOT APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS THAT THEY WANT.
KEEP YOU POWER OR YOU WILL LOSE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE WORKED FOR.
MAYBE EVEN YOUR TRIBAL STATUS ALONG WITH YOU INCOME.
THANK YOU FOR READING THIS POST.

Anonymous said...

his EC doesn't give a shit about who you are and where you come from. All they care about is money, money and more money.
Just look at all the proof that is one this blog and on the other blog that prove without a shadow of doubt that the dis-enrolled do belong in the Tribe, and the EC say different. Do you and you Family have this kind of proof as to your belonging to the Tribe in case the EC wants you and you family gone?
That's what could happen if you give the power to the EC on these Amendments that they are requesting of you.
DON'T TAKE THAT CHANCE AND LOSE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE JUST BACAUSE ROBERT SMITH FEELS THAT IT IS HIS RIGHT TO CONTROL THE ENTIRE RESERVATION LIKE HE WANTS TO.
VOTE THE AMENDMENTS ISSUE AND MOTION NOT TO BRING IT UP AGAIN FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS.

Anonymous said...

YES 8:43
Maybe by then he and the ones that are doing evil things to the Pala Tribe will be DEAD by then.
Wishful thinking.

Anonymous said...

We all know that Peter Trujillo sr. would never agree to any dis-enrollments on this Reservation,
That's what we need here in Pala, and man that will stand up for the Members and not vote on issues that will harm the members of the Tribe in any way.
VOTE FOR PETER TRUJILLO SR. AS A WRITE-IN FOR VICE CHAIRMAN AND BRING PEACE AND HAPPYNESS BACK TO THE PALA RESERVATION.
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING
PETER TRUJILLO SR. AS THE PEOPLES
VOICE FOR VICE CHAIRMAN.

Anonymous said...

I HAVE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THESE ATTORNEY'S,HER IS WHAT I FOUND OUT, AND THE REST IS UP TO YOU.
#1-Gregory C Alcorn Law is a real estate lawyer.
#2- Bell, Mcandrews, Hilacht, llp. Is a law firm that specializes in
political $ campaign, and elections law.
#3-Kimberly Cuff is a Child Custody Lawyer from San Rafael, Ca.
#4-Theodore Griswold,Procopio, Cory are native American lawyers practicing mostly in the EPA field.
#5-Slater & Truaxw mostly do Bankruptcy ans litigation law.
#6-Jane Zerbi law is a gaming Attorney in Sacramento and used to be connected to Howard Dickstien.
#7 Sara D. everyone already knows that she uses Tribal funds to attact Tribal Elders. She works for Dentons Law Firm.

Anonymous said...

Thank you to ever did this research on the Attorney list. At least we know something about them, even if it's just a little.
Why does the Tribe need a Child custody lawyer? A no vote.
I know we don't need #7, Sara D. She just uses her schooling to help Disenroll legit members. So she is a no vote.
#2 How much are we paying for these Lawyers for political campaign and election law.
another no vote.#5, Slater&Truaxw Why a bankruptcy lawyer? a no vote.
#7 FOR SURE A NO VOTE FOR DENTONS, UNLESS THEY FIRE SARA D. We don't need her disenrolling knowledge to be used against the Members of our Tribe.
If the EC wants to hire these lawyers on a contract basis then they should be approved by the General Membership, and have there contracts explained in detail to the Membership before they are voted on.
So Members there you have a some what list as to what these Attorneys do for Pala.
And really I don't see any need to re-contract any of them. They are not cheap and this is our money, so vote them down and DO NOT GIVE YOUR POWER TO THE EC.
IF any if them are that important to have, maybe put them on a retainer and pay as needed. There is no need to put them on a contract basis. It's just giving them extra money and it's not helping our Tribe. A retainer and a need be basis and approval by the General Membership along with the approval of the ASIA makes more scence.

Anonymous said...

retainer fee would make more scence than a contract at this time.
How does the EC know how much any given Attorney will charge for their services. If we contracted with all of these Attorney's it will cost the Tribe Hundreds of Thousands of dollars or maybe even in to the millions, depending on why we are contracting with them.
As for a retainer it shouldn't be more than 5-10 thousand per Retainer and pay as needed for their services.
We would save hundreds of thousands of dollars in stead of contracting.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of dumb fucks.Being fooled by this lying mother ffffffu00ker again.

Anonymous said...

I did notice something odd at last nights meeting.
And that was when Peter Trujillo had his hand raised for a question, the EC looked right passed him. Were they afraid of the questions that he might have asked or were they sending a message.
They, the EC also treated Monica Morro very rudely buy their response for the questions that she asked of them.
I think Robert knows that if Peter wins this election as a write in for Vice Chairman it will BE hard for the EC to pass anything that will harm the people.
That's why we need to vote Peter in as our choice for the Vice Chairman seat this election.
We need a change in Pala now, not later. VOTE HIM IN AS A WRITE IN, WE
HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE AND EVERYTHING TO GAIN. after WATCHING SOME OF THE REACTIONS FROM THE EC AT LAST NIGHTS MEETING, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE WORRIED BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING CHALLENGED BY PETE, AND HE IS NOT BACKING DOWN, IN FACT HE IS GAINING MORE AND MORE SUPPORT FROM MEMBERS ALL OVER, EVEN OUT OF STATE.

Anonymous said...

The only POWER that the EC Mainly Smith, should get is the power of a left hook to the face, and a kick with steel toed boots right in the balls.

Anonymous said...

@ 5:09PM
All that does is motivate Pete More.
In all honesty I really hope that Pete Wins the election as a write in. He does care about the Reservation and he is willing to help the Members in any way that he can. I like Pete and he would be my number one choice over Maxcey and Eric. I think he would stand up to the other EC Members and voice his opinion on Matters that are important and he would not lie to the Members, which is a very big plus for the entire Band. Vote Peter Trujillo sr.as a write in for the NEW VICE CHAIRMAN of the Pala Band of Mission Indians on Nov. 24th it's time to start the change for Pala.

Anonymous said...

Think about this Members. If something were to happen to Robert Smith, who would you rather have take over until the Membership could call a Meeting to elect a new Chairman. Eric Ortega Garcia could not run this Band for 10 minutes without screwing every thing up.
And Maxcey is just business minded enough to do anything, hell he would probably have a landing strip built so he could have faster access to the Tribes jet.
So my choice would be Peter, because he would not do anything to hurt the Band and I am sure that he would not do any business without bringing it to the General Membership first.
This is all based on wish full thinking.

Respectfully Posted by Peter Trujillo sr. said...

Anyone that knows me here in Pala knows that I am proud of my Ancestors and what they stood for. just because they have moved to the Heavens above does not mean that their blood, sweat and tears that they shed should be buried with them. All that they did for all of us was a learning tool that should be honored by everyone alive today.
In todays world to many people forget that the simple things that our Ancestors taught us could and should be used as a guide to head us in the right direction for the survival of our people.
Look how many years our people survived on the knowledge of our Ancestors and are still here today. That in it self should make the light shine even brighter.
I watch people of our Reservation and I learn and listen to the things that that desire, and at the end of most of the conversations that I do have with them, they all seem to say the same thing and that is, What has happened to the peaceful Reservation that we once had lived in.
To all members we all need to bring the Customs and Traditions back into the ways of our Reservation and stop catering to the ways of the Evil outside world. We were all raised to believe that we are a proud
Indian Nation and should continue to live as a proud Indian Nation as was taught to us by our Beloved Ancestors.
When my Dad passed on back in 1989 he made me promise him something and to this day I have kept that promise and I will never brake it.
From the day he passed away I took over his job as making most all of the crosses for people that have passed away. He did this for more than 40 years, and he then taught me to ring to bells at the mission when someone in the village has passed on. I learned so much from my Father as a young child because I wanted to carry on where he left off
when he was ready to pass it to me.
The things that he taught me are like a tattoo in my heart and my brain and will never be erased. I cherish the Customs and Traditions
that he has passed on to me, and no matter what, no one can ever take these thing away from me.
I am sure that everyone has some things that they have learned from our Ancestors, and therefore my people please use them and don't ever shove the teachings of you Ancestors aside, this not why they taught you, taught you so you could use it for strength and ability to survive in a world as of today. I love you DAD and thank you for teaching me. May GOD shine his light upon all of our Ancestors and all
of their teachings.
PETER TRUJILLO SR.

Anonymous said...

WOW, that's a very strong message from Mr. Trujillo. You sound like you are real believer in Customs and Traditions of the Tribe.
I feel this way because of the praise and honor that you give to your Ancestors for their Teachings. That is a strong message for todays youth.
I truly hope that you can win this coming Election for Vice Chairman.
You sound very dedicated to you Tribe.

Anonymous said...

Real nice post nov. 16,@6PM
It is good to see that someone gives credit where credit is due.
I feel the same way about our Elders.

Anonymous said...

@4:56 PM I think that Pete would be a better choice if smith got sick or arrested. I believe that he would run the Tribe according to the Customs and Tradition of the Band until a New Election was set for a new Chairman. I also think that you are right in thinking that Eric would do more damage than good, and Maxcey couldn't do much better than Eric.
So you are right, I think that Pete would be my choice also.

Anonymous said...

@ Peter Trujillo sr.
It seems that people really like you and think that you could do a good job on the EC.
If for some reason you don't make the vice chair spot as a write in, would you consider running for Chairman against Smith next year?

Anonymous said...

some ONE SHOULD BE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THE GUY THAT RUNS THE POSTAL OFFICE AT THE OLD TRIBAL HALL AND KEEP AN EYE ON THE BALLOT BOX.
WE SHOULD HAVE HIRED A SECURITY GAURD TO WATCH THAT BOX FOR THE PEOPLE.
AND MAKE SURE THAT ONLY LEGAL MAIL IS PUT IN THE BALLOT BOX.
I HAVE A STRANGE FEELING THAT JOHN IS ON THE TAKE AND SHOULD BE REPORTED TO THE U.S.POSTAL SERVICE.MAIL FRAUD, ELECTION FRAUD ARE SERIOUS CHARGES.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if Robert Smith is in the Hospital? or is it just a rumor.

Anonymous said...

If he isn't, he should be.
His KARMA will catch him sooner or later and the sooner the better.
And when the Doctor comes in and tells him, I am sorry Mr. Smith but your going to die in a couple of days, it's his own fault.
He should be starting to think about his fate and dying soon, his Karma is way, way over due. There is no cure for EVIL, or HIV.

Anonymous said...

Who cares if he is in the Hospital. Let us know when the County Corners office shows up in the white van to remove his remains from his house or the Admin Building. Big party would be in order.

Anonymous said...

I hope that who ever is destroying the signs that were put up by the people running for EC office get caught and lose their Per Capita for at least one month and not be able to collect their Christmas Bonus. And if these are minors then the parents should lose their per capita and Christmas Bonus.
People pay to have these signs made and then so little punk ass comes along and tears them down and that's not the way it should be. So you better watch out because people will be watching to see who is guilty and they will be reported. And if a motion needs to be made at a Meeting to enforce this ,no problem I will do what ever it takes. I am sure that they will be caught because there are plenty of new camera's that have been installed here on the Reservation. And some Residents also have security camera's installed in their homes.

Anonymous said...

See what happens when you give all the power to the EC. I just herd that there is NO MONEY in the reserve for the Christmas bonus.
Maybe at the next meeting you should just give the EC all of your power that is left so the Tribe can file bankruptcy and close the casino.
It's funny how he has no problem giving money to the school districts and the DA and corrupt Lawyers, but when it comes to the Tribal Members there is no money to give for a Christmas bonus.
Is that OK with you Members?
It's not OK with me and so I will be going to talk with the IRS and the FBI because this is not going to get any better if someone doesn't do something.

Anonymous said...

Make that son of a bitch answer to the people for saying that there was going to be a XMass bonus and he knew that the reserve was dry.
Then motion to have the Bonus of 15,000 paid by the end of January.
And on the 10 of Dec each following year for 5 years with a 5 year option.
That way the people will know that they will receive it every year and not get any excuses.
That gives the EC a whole year between bonuses to put the money into an interest baring account.

Anonymous said...

FORENSIC AUDIT ASAP. If Smith and his crew are getting worried about getting caught they could be planning a quick exit and the Band will be up a shit creek without a paddle. FORENSIC AUDIT NOW.
SIGN THE UP COMMING PETITION FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT WHEN THEY COME ASKING FOR YOUR SIGNITURE.
DON'T BE AFFRAID, YOU WILL BE PROTECTED BY THE ASKERS.

Out of State Member said...

One more BIG QUESTION to ask at the next meeting.
Excuse me Mr. Chairman. how many life insurance policies have you collected on through the Deaths of Tribal Members?
Some members that live out of State and that were not aware of the life insurance through the Tribe.
And then someone passes away and then asked if they received their money from the Tribes life insurance policy and they say no, that they had no idea of such and call the office and were told that so and so did not sigh up for the insurance.
And then we find out that it was in fact paid to you or one of your family members.
Why are you collecting our money? it's not yours.