In 1903 the Agua Caleinte Cupeno were removed from their ancestral tribal home, the Village of Kupa also known as Warner's Hot Springs. The Cupeno were forced onto the Pala Indian Reservation. This is known as the Cupeno Trail of Tears.
On June 1st, 2011 and February 1st, 2012 162 Warner Ranch Evictee Agua Caliente Cupeno were removed from the PBMI Association by the Pala Enrollment Committee. This is our Second Trail of Tears.
One of the best quotes in the affidavit is how Robert Smith is doing nothing but attempting to "FOOL" pala members into thinking M.B. father is unknown.
The 9th Circuit Appeals Panel is going to have a field day with the Affidavit of Elsie Lucero. And after the appeals Court makes it ruling for the Family, I intend to take it 1 step more. I want charges against Robert Smith, Theresa Nieto, Dion Perez, Leroy Miranda for Criminal Intent against us, and Fraud against our Family members. These people have caused so much HURT, and ANGER on the Pala Reservation that they need to be held accountable for this action in which was totally illegal from the start.
WOW!!!!!!!!!! SO ROBERT SMITH IS TRING TO FOOL THE MEMBER OF THE PALA BAND OF MISSION INDIANS. WELL ROBER, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY NOW, YOU FUCKEN LOW LIFE SCUM BAG. YOU SHOULD BE WORRYING ABOUT YOUR WIFE AND KIDS, AS TO HOW THEY WILL HAVE TO LIVE HERE IN PALA WHILE YOU ARE DOING YOUR TIME IN THE FEDERAL PRISON SYSTEM RIGHT NEXT TO LEROY MIRANDA JR. AND DION PEREZ. AND YOU THERESA J. NIETO, I WONDER WHAT YOU GRAND DAUGHTERS ARE GOING TO T5HINK WHEN THEIR GRANDMOTHER (YOU)ARE SERVING TIME IN THE FEDERAL PRISON ALSO. YOU THE EC, HAVE HAD A LOT OF TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND RE-ENROLL BUT YOU ALL HAVE THOUGHT THAT YOU WOUKD GET AWAY WITH THIS ACT OF GREED. HOWEVER, THE FEDS,(FBI& THE IRS) HAVE BEEN PRESSURED TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST YOU FOR THE WRONGS THAT YOU IMP[OSED ON TRIBAL MEMBERS AND THE FUNDS, THERESA NIETO THAT YOU YOURSELF ARE RESPONSIBALE FOR, BEIGN THE TRIBAL TREASURE, AND BEING TRUSTED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS TRIBE BY AUTHORIZING THE FINANCIAL SERVICES THAT BELONG TO THE PALA BAND OF MISSION INDIANS.YOU YOURSELF HAVE COUNTER SIGNED MANY LARGE CHECKS AND BANKING OFFICAL DOCUMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE USED AS EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU AND ROBERT SMITH. THERE IS SO MUCH EVIDENCE AGAINST THE TWO OF YOU THAT THE SENTENCING GIDE LINES WILL PUT YOU BEHIND BARS FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS OR LONGER, AND THATS IF THE JUDGE BELIVES ANY OF YOUR LIES. BUT THE JUDGE MAY CHOOSE NOT TO ASK YOU ANYTHING AT ALL IF THE JUDGE BELIVES ALL OF THE EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR YOUR PROSCUTION IN THE TRIBAL (RICO ACT)ACCUSATIONS . I HAVE SEEN SOME, BUT NOT ALL OF THINGS THAT WERE FILED AGAINST YOU AND ROBERT SMITH, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I WAS REALLY SURPRIZED AT THE DOCEMENTS THAT YOU TWO SIGHED ON BEHALF OF THE TRIBE. I HOPE THAT YOUR FRIEND AND YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS CAN FORGIVE YOU SOMEDAY FOR YOUR ACTIONS, AND HOW ABOUT YOUR SON AND DAUGHTER, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO TELL YOUR GRAND KIDS AS TO WHY THEIR GRANDMOTHER IS LOCK UP IN FEDERAL PRISON. ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT YOU (THE EC) FUCKED WITH THE WRONG FAMILY AND NOW YOU MUST PAY FOR IT. DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND, SOMEONE WILL TAKE CARE OF HIM ALSO.
HERE IS A CHALLENGE TO ALL TRIBEL MEMBERS OF PALA, 18 YRS. OLD AND ABOVE. Would you please take 5 minutes out of your day and read the Affidavit of Elsie Lucero and then read the testimonies of the half brothers and half sisters of MB, and see if you still think that the Britten Descendants don't belong. And then maybe you could understand our fight for justice a little better. It would be better that you read and understand all of Affidavit for your self. That way if there are any Questions or concerns you can feel free to contact any one of us to talk about it. Everything is there in black and white.
In response to 10:38 post above. I for one took up your challenge and I have to say that the Affidavit sworn by Elsie Lucero does in fact shine a new light on things. And I have come to think now that all the evidence that's been verified is all true, and the Descendants of Mrs. Britten do in fact belong to the Pala Band of mission Indians without any doubt. Just bring it to the General Membership for a vote, because you are all Native Americans and you do BELONG IN OUR TRIBE.
Unfortunately the general membership only exists in words now, they have no say, even if they all wanted the re-enrollment of the Brittans, Robert would manipulate the voting with paid extra voters, pre-marked ballots shoved into the box or pre-calculated votes on the computers. It is so easy to cheat on voting, unless there is neutral third party involvement, but that will never happen. It seems more and more that there is only three ways to oust him, 1. the tribal members sign a petition and send it to the DOI and get him audited and they press charges against him, 2. He is arrested by the FBI for his corruption, 3. He disappears somehow or someway. The first two are up to government interference, but they do not want to get involved.
@ sept. 2 @ 10:38 PM My Husband and I took your challenge and have changed our minds concerning the Britten family. Without any doubt the Entire britten Family does BELONG in the Pala Band of Missions 100%. I will make sure that my family and all of my Husbands family members read the Affidavit, twice if need be. Good luck Britten Family Members of Our Tribe. P/S, I will pass this on two as many people as I can, maybe even the local news paper. Or how about the TURCO files.
That was an easy challenge, and an easy mind changer for me. So now Mr. Smith what have you to say about this. Are you MAN enough to admit that the EC was indeed wrong about the disenrollments, and you Theresa Nieto and Dion Perez how are you feeling now that the General Membership is view things in a totally different light now. You know that you are to blame for bringing your family blood line into question and its all because you didn't want to play by the rules. Here is a big question for you EC members. When the Britten Family is Back on the Tribal rolls and they feel that you must pay for what you did to them and try to disenroll you and your family members what will happen then?. Do you think that Robert Smith will have the support of the entire Tribe to stop it, or will he just say that there is nothing that he can do because it is the will of the people. And with all the evidence presented here I really don't see any thing to dispute it. And you know something I hope that that's what happens to you and your people because you are the only ones to blame for this happing to your family members.GREEDY, GREEDY, GREEDY. If that infact does happen there are Welfare programs that you and your family can apply for. SORRY, BUT WHATS RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WHATS WRONG IS WRONG. Now what Dion Perez you non-member liar, cheater, embezzler, Frauds, and NON CUPA BLOOD. Just remember that it was you and only you that created this mess all by your greedy selfs. Good Luck, and may the Creator look the other way when you go crying to him for help. Never call the kettle black before you wash it.
I don't understand why Robert doesn't just re enroll the brittains? All this bitter fighting would stop. It's pretty obvious by all the documents I've seen they DO belong. Don't you EC members get tired if being hated and criticized? Wouldn't you rather be admired for do something positive and re uniting pala? Which ever EC member finally does make a stand and re enroll the britians is going to get much respect and admiration from the tribe. You would have my vote. Imagine the difference it would make on our Rez.
How embarrassing its got to be for all the Lugo descendents that Pala is finding out the truth about their "little secret". Now they have to go to a meeting and vote to evict 2 of our warners ranch decendents for their dumb little trouble making relatives Dion, Theresa and Howard. I bet those 3 never thought their motions to disenroll our cupa brothers and sisters would end up exposing themselves as the real people who have no right in pala!
Well if they have NO CUPA BLOOD they need to step down and move one before someone go's postal on Dion Perez and Howard Maxcey and for sure that lying little bitch Theresa Nieto. Maybe the Pala Mission will \help her get some food stamps or a care package of some sort. Or maybe the old Padre in charge will turn her away for what she has done to the True Native CUPA people. I never understood how the old mission could even think of having such a corrupt person helping out at the Mission of the Cupa Indians. They need to give her back her donations and tell her to go to hell.
Now Dion can enter the beauty contest at Morongo in two weeks, then the wet T-shirt contest the following week. I am so disappointed that the EC is doing this to Pala I think I will Just make a motion to impeach Robert Smith, and then motion to take all Authority from the EC until such time that an Audit is approved by the General Membership and all the findings are given to the General Membership. This will stop any spending and any purchases that the EC might want to make.
The only way that you can stop the spending is you would have to take a copy of the approved motion to the Bank and let them know that this was approved at said meeting. Or option 2, is to have an Attorney on standby to handle it. I think that the Tribe did this before when JR lavato moved some money at the Bank Of America in Fallbrook. Does anyone have knowledge of how many Bank the Tribe has, and where?
I will do whatever it takes and may need a little help from someone who knows what steps to take. I will do the dirty job concerning the motions, because I am not afraid of Robert Smith, I mean what can he do that he hasn't done already. I am just fed up with all of the Bullshit that he is so GUILTY of, and he needs to be STOPPED, and STOPPED NOW.
NO CONECTION TO ANY CUPA BLOOD DEGREE, JUST DO ALL OF THE CUPA PEOPLE A BIG FAVOR, AND GET THE FUCK OFF OF OUR RESERVATION.ON YOUR OWN ACCORD OR WE WILL GLADLY HELP YOU PACK UP YOU SHIT.
Its not a question of IF they have no cupa blood, belive me THEY DON'T HAVE A DROP of cupa blood. All documents that have been obtained all point to Morongo, Chuilla and San Yisidro. Take a good look at how many will be forced to attend the meeting with their head's down to vote for what the EC wants to do to Kenny and Gina. In the old days if you didn't come from Warners you could not attend meetings, vote, or especially sit on the bbusiness committee, so just make them leave if they can't prove Warners Ranch decendency, CALL THE MEETING ILLEGAL and motion to adjourn.
If Maxey, Nieto and Perez can't produce any proof to show Warners Decendency every meeting from this point on IS ILLEGAL plain and simple. just because their great grandfather lied his way onto the 1913 allotment roll doesn't mean they belong here, Morongo and Cahuilla are their home, PAY BACK THE MILLIONS YOU HAVE STOLEN from the pala Indian reservation and get the F off our land
This palarez person is sounding more and more like Shasta Kanasta, Roberts under the desk buddy. I read a post on the other Blog that someone said that they would make a CD of the lucero Affidavit for Palarez so he/she can here it instead of reading it and maybe then he/she would understand it. The Britten family have proven beyond any doubt that THEY BELONG in the Pala Band 100%. Read all the Documents that are from the United States Government, and the Affidavit by E.Lucero, Unless you are blind or a Retard it's all their in black and white.
It has been proven the Britten decendents belong, they will not have to pay back anything that is rightfully theirs, any revenue in pala belongs to them through their Agua Caliente lineage, if anything, I can see P.B.M.I. being forced to repay everthing that has bee taken from them, that day is on the horizon based on their proven lineage. Palarez doesn't know shit.
This is very simple. Ask Robert Smith to waive sovereign immunity and let the courts decide who owes money. If you really believe the disenrollees owe money to Robert Smith then it should be a slam dunk. Thus no need for sovereign immunity. Just go to court and get the money.
Wrong again palarez. It's you that are selfish and want their per capita for yourself. Otherwise you wouldn't have disenrolled the descendants of a full blooded Kupa Indian.
That makes no sense 10:52. In fact it's just plain ignorant. It has already been determined. And of course she said who her father was since all her kids knew who her father was. They always knew and always told their kids. And so on down the line. You weren't in the households as it was being told by parent to child. Margarita knew and her descendants knew. They were the ones who needed to know, not you.
To Pala Rez You know what I am so tired of you calling my great, great, grandmother down You didn't even know her and I know that you were not in the room when Her mother got was sleeping with Peligrino Ortega. So how can you say some of the things that say, especially about someone you never knew. There is a lot of proof as to who her Father was, there was an investigation done by the BIA and others, and then the sworn testimony of the 1/2 brothers and sisters and they all stated, under oath that there statements were true. And then there is the AFFIDAVIT by Mrs. Lucero. So why is that not good enough for you and everyone else. How many Members do you think have as much proof as to their belonging to the Pala Band of Mission Indians. It seem that any time there is more proof concerning the blood degree of my Great, Great Grandmother you come on here a chop her down, and I think that is wrong. She is part of my Family and I really wish that you would stop disrespecting her, because when you do you are disrespecting all of my Family. Would it be so hard to let her Rest in peace for once. I think that I said this once before, but here it is again, "If you have a problem with my Family" for any reason Please come to one us and talk about it. Because it is getting harder and harder to hear all the BS that people say about her. I do not understand what she could have done to anyone for them to hold such a grudge for so many years. Even though she died before I was Born I still love and honor her memory because of they way that I was brought up. So please don't disrespect her anymore. Thank you for your understanding. Respectfully Posted by Peter Trujillo sr.
I have nothing against MB I've never called her down, all I'm saying is she can't prove to be full blood. She was undoubtedly Cupa but can only prove 50% of her blood. I am sorry you take it as me disrespecting her. When I feel I am disrespected or my family and friends are disrespected I'm going to say something, if everyone would quit running there mouth on public blogs I would have nothing negative to say about any of your family.
It has been proven 100% who she was, who her father was, and what her blood degree is and always will be. Every thing was done according to Federal Law and it is all documented in all offices of the BIA locally and in Washington DC. Why is that not good enough. And how many Tribal Members can show the proof of their blood line like the Britten Family has done?
To PalaRez, How much more proof do you need. Take a look at all the Documents is that not enough for enrollment in the Tribe? What in your eyes is it going to take to settle this issue once and for all. Thanks
Then 3:11 must be a Lugo or close ties to a Lugo. And must be resentful of the truth being told about his background as a Morongo member and paid teamster who helped herd the Kupas to Pala. Well you aren't the only family in Pala but you sure helped disenroll real Kupas to ensure you could control the voting outcomes. No matter what else 3:11 says he/she is defending with a vengeance their wrongdoing because they are scared stiff of the repercussions to their families enrollment.
What it's going to take is people need to quit making tribal affairs public, and need to quit bad mouthing the EC or anyone in Pala for that matter. If no one was talking s*** I'd have nothing to say but everyone seems to want to run there mouth, so of course I'm going to say something especially if it concerns my family or friends.
The EC illegally disenrolled legitimate tribal members. There is document after document proving MB is 4/4. Robert went on television speaking about the disenrollments. Are you mad at him for going public? This fighting would all stop if the the EC would re enroll. But if not the courts will decide.
Sorry pala Rez but we are not just going to sit quietly and have our rights ripped away. We are going to fight this all the way. We are not being treated equally.
How am I bad mouthing MB? Stop bad mouthing the EC and the tribe. The chairman did not call to be interviewed Gina Howard and King are the ones that went to the media and having them contact the tribe for a comment.
You constantly bad mouth her. Remember she is also Aunt to the Lavatos. She knew who her father was and family were. Stop saying she didn't. You weren't in her house or talking to her children and grandchildren. You're nothing but psychopathic narcissist with no feelings. Leave her family alone. Thank God it's in the courts. Yes the disenrolled will be reenrolled and the chairman and Nieto and Dion will have wasted millions on their own personal whims. They are deathly afraid of what will happen to them when they can't hide behind their special bloc of family voters. Yea Remijo Lugo the Morongo Indian descendants. Hope all the other families in Pala are enjoying their benefits going to imposter and land grabbers. Shame shame as you flaunt your sorry selves around Pala.
@Palarez, you are totally disrespectful, we did not start this fight,we did not send out huge packet of false info about our family spreading hate and rumors about us, we did not strip anyone of their rights, we did not commit any crime. We were not allowed to have due process, we were not allowed to have a general council vote, and we were never really told exactly why we were disenrolled. You just claimed in an earlier post, " When I feel I am disrespected or my family and friends are disrespected I'm going to say something,", so why is our defending our family wrong to you. We have always been respectful, we have not done any violence, although we have been threatened with violence and some of us have experienced some of the most hateful actions by our own cousins, because of this mess. We have been laughed at, disgraced, kicked out of our homes, yelled at, constantly taunted by others, divided from relatives who we used to be able to hang with peacefully. We have had everything taken from us, and can no longer be buried next to our loved ones. We have listen to others bad mouth us and our family over and over, and tell me what we did to deserve this hatred. We have showed our proof over and over, and you know there was a mistake at one point that needed to be corrected, because you said it yourself that the rolls were messed up, it has been proven from us over and over. SO now go look up your ancestors and see how far back you can go knowing the name of every parent, grand-parent, great-parent, great-great-grandparent, and put it on here for us to see, to prove to us that you belong. How dare you, you have no clue what this has done to us, it is much more than you can ever understand unless it is you going through it. Our hearts are heavy, and your biased words are like knives stabbing us in the back. We are sorry that your pal Robert and his fellow EC members have committed such corruption, that it is not our fault, we are defending ourselves, they keep coming at us with crap, so yes we are going to let the people know what kind of leader that Pala has, he knew that this would cause so much commotion, but he did not realize how much fight we have in us, how much proof we have, and that we are not idiots. Pala needs to heal, and it will begin with the ousting of the current EC.
I'm not saying you are the one disrespecting the Ec or tribe, but there are plenty of your cousin's that do look at all the comments they post. I'll defend mine just like you will defend yours.
When the EC does the right thing, they will get respect. If they were good leaders that cared about all of their members, then they would get respect. Instead, they have eliminated rightful members and enrolled wrong ones, some that have no Indian blood at all. They have chosen to look at one family with one set of rules and the others with a different set of rules, and they have denied truth over their own dislike for certain members. That is an abuse of their leadership position.
@ 8:44AM You probably don't have any real friends and when your family finds out who you really are, they will be so ashamed of your mouth that you may not have all of them supporting you. So go wash your mouth out and start over again.
The law reads that a Tribe has the right to say who belongs and who doesn't. I still can't find any law that says that the EC has that right. According to the Documents on file The Tribe is the deciding factor and that was never done according to all the records on file. It was done by the EC and not by the Pala band as a whole. So the EC steps outside of there Authority and takes the disenrollment issue into their own accord and disenrolls the Brittens, when the Supreme Court states that A TRIBE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE THERE OWN MEMBERSHIP, and it says nothing about the EC making that decision. So I guess that the Supreme Court means nothing to the Pala Band. THE TRIBE, THE TRIBE HAS THE RIGHT so where is the Documents that say the Pala Band of Mission Indians Disenrolled the Britten Family. Their is none So the Tribe did not do it, it was the EC 3 of which have no CUPA BLOOD TIES 0000000none not even a mini drop.So how is this to be considered legal.
That is very True 5:49 PM The way that the U.S. Supreme court states it is "A TRIBE has the RIGHT to Determine There Own Membership. Also their is the fact that according to the BIA Regional Office IN SACRAMENTO the Pala Band of Missions Is Organized Under It's ARTICALS OF ASSOCIATIONS,NOT A CONSTITUTION.SO that would mean that the BIA does in fact make that FINAL SAY over the Tribes ENROLLMENT. So now if the 9th Circuit Court Agrees with the Pala Case, then the BIA will be forced to comply with Federal Court Ruling. Plus the fact that the 1989 FINAL DECISION was Documented as FINAL for THE BIA.And that would mean that the EC broke a Federal Law by over turning the 1989 Decision.
HOW CAN THE TRIBE LET A PERSON OR PERSONS WITH NO BLOOD DEGREE TO THE CUPA PEOPLE RUN THE RESERVATION AND ALL THE FINANCIES. MOST MEMBERS DON'T EVEN TRUST THE BANKING INDUSTRY,BUT THEY ARE EXPECTED TO TRUST ROBERT, THERESA, DION, AND HOWARD WITH THEUR LIVELY HOOD. I THINK IT'S WAY PAST THE TIME TO CLEAN UP THE EC MATTER AND GET A FRESH START WITH A NEW COUNCIL.
I don't get this whole mess. Do you mean that the EC can disenroll members but they can't evict someone from the Reservation without the Approval of the General Membership? That just doesn't sound right .
Blah blah blah. 1) King is the so called leader for the disenrolled and has made up rumors and lies about the EC just because he envys the fact he can not be chairman, he can make up whatever facts he wants because don't worry for all his modified paperwork there are originals. 2) Don't worry about my friends worry about you and yours, your opinion doesn't concern or affect me. 3) @2:03 no the EC can not evict some without the GC voting on it
Come on now Robert originals to all the "modified" paperwork? You and your mom Amy Dutsuke are the only ones stupid enough to monkey with offical federal documents that comment was ridiculous. Wait, there's more, explain how someone can make up a "FACT", a fact is a fact, not something that is made up, something "made up" would be fictitious, or inaccurate, sorta like the B.S. you attempt to feed your "made up" band of Morongo decendents. And I don't think because he allows your opposition to post information about everything you have done wrong in pala and to the pala people makes him the leader of the disenrolled, now you see that is a good example of "a made up fictitious inaccurate comment", but this kind of diarrhea spewing out of your mouth has become all to commonplace over the years. And im sure there is no envy from anyone to be a chairman of a tribe that is unorganized, landless, and with no governing documents, (old pala). Or the alternative, the P.B.M.I, (pala band of morongo indians). Damn stop talking here after a nite of sitting on that bar stool. Please!
This string of PalaRez is not Robert Smith. this is his pro hack Doug Elmets. Remember Doug Elmets was the first to release the news about the MB disenrollments and how they were justified. Elmets is just as worried as RS is about being drawn and quartered by the Cupa People. Better learn you history before you declare victory mr. doug. You are supposed to be smarter than that. What does Robert pay you per post on the blogs, the usual fee $5,000 per post. Yes you will be on the RICO list when we start the wheels of justice turning. so get rich as fast as you can here. you will need the extra money for your defense counsel. Howard the Coward will be sitting next to you so don't look to him for free attorney service.
? for PALAREZ, Why didn't the EC follow the rules on the disenrollments? According to The Federal and Tribal Law, a Tribe has the right to determine there own membership. Well the Tribe or the General Membership had no part in the disenrollment of the Brittens. The United States Supreme Court is the one that says this. So why didn't the EC follow these guide lines?. By this action on the part of the EC, it seems that the whole action is illegal, because they didn't follow the rules that were set forth in the Supreme Court Rulings, on different decisions made by the said Court.
@palarez.... There no documents that list Margarita as half. All documents list her as full. So it sounds like you are being misinformed. I understand that you have some sort of respect for the EC, so if you do...do some research. Look at the documents yourself, and you to will see the truth. Be someone of strength and of your own mind, read the documents and then help your EC to do what is right. If the tables were turned, and it was you that the EC was attacking, I'm sure you would fight for what is right. Many people from the tribe and other tribes support the dis enrolled families, cause they also know the truth. I'm sorry to say your leader isn't very well respected. Ask yourself this,... Your leaders bloodline is in question and they claim to have documents to prove their blood, but why isn't the documents the Brittian family brings to the table just as good. I just doesn't sound fair now does it? I'm not trying to attack you or your ability to have your own opinion, but I am asking you as a Native American brother, to be what your elders have handed down in you...and research and pray, the truth is there. God be with you and the dis enrolled families. God is Good, God is righteous, God is the truth. Don't shut your eyes to him or what he is putting right in front of you, You and your families will call on him one day and you want to make sure you are righteous! God isn't new to this world he was with your elders when this was settled...so the ones that have brought this up and are doing wrong you should pray for them, cause it is them that will be judged when God is ready to expose them...I pray that God has mercy on them. God bless you and your tribe.
Palarez, why are you so mad a king?. did he turn you down after you tried to get him in the sack. That's what it sounds like. sounds like a young high school girl that couldn't get the donkey to do her at a Friday night football game.
The only thing I've heard out of PALAREZ that is true fact. Is that for all the falsified paperwork. There are originals. Which if PALAREZ would look at the real facts. He would see that we do in fact hold those. The doctored and altered paperwork that the ec has is from Amy d office. Our real u falsified documents are from dc out of reach for the master falsifiers of Amy d and rs. So spout all your gibberish you would like. Everyone who knows the truth. Knows. The day will come when the reconing will begin. And I personally believe that day will be very soon. Keep up the fight for the true descendants of the Warner ranch evictees and not the fake white German rs and his band of adopted fakes.
To PalaRez sept 6 @1107 AM Why don't you take all the support that you have for your beloved EC and stick it up your never ending Ass. I am guessing that you still have room up in there after all the shit that RS and the EC are feeding you.
@ 7:45 AM That day is even closer than any one thinks. Things are being put together so that no one can dispute the charges that are being brought against certain members of the EC and OTHERS. The reason it has taken this long is that the Investigators have had to verify every lead to make sure that the charges will stick and hold up in Federal Court. That way NO ONE will walk away free, and they will ALL be held ACCOUNTABLE FOR THERE PARTS.
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We have the proof and we belong. No matter what anyone else has to say, we belong and they all know it.
One of the best quotes in the affidavit is how Robert Smith is doing nothing but attempting to "FOOL" pala members into thinking M.B. father is unknown.
The 9th Circuit Appeals Panel is going to have a field day with the Affidavit of Elsie Lucero. And after the appeals Court makes it ruling for the Family, I intend to take it 1 step more. I want charges against Robert Smith, Theresa Nieto, Dion Perez, Leroy Miranda for Criminal Intent against us, and Fraud against our Family members.
These people have caused so much HURT, and ANGER on the Pala Reservation that they need to be held accountable for this action in which was totally illegal from the start.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!
SO ROBERT SMITH IS TRING TO FOOL THE MEMBER OF THE PALA BAND OF MISSION INDIANS. WELL ROBER, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY NOW, YOU FUCKEN LOW LIFE SCUM BAG. YOU SHOULD BE WORRYING ABOUT YOUR WIFE AND KIDS, AS TO HOW THEY WILL HAVE TO LIVE HERE IN PALA WHILE YOU ARE DOING YOUR TIME IN THE FEDERAL PRISON SYSTEM RIGHT NEXT TO LEROY MIRANDA JR. AND DION PEREZ.
AND YOU THERESA J. NIETO, I WONDER WHAT YOU GRAND DAUGHTERS ARE GOING TO T5HINK WHEN THEIR GRANDMOTHER (YOU)ARE SERVING TIME IN THE FEDERAL PRISON ALSO.
YOU THE EC, HAVE HAD A LOT OF TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND RE-ENROLL
BUT YOU ALL HAVE THOUGHT THAT YOU WOUKD GET AWAY WITH THIS ACT OF GREED.
HOWEVER, THE FEDS,(FBI& THE IRS) HAVE BEEN PRESSURED TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST YOU FOR THE WRONGS THAT YOU IMP[OSED ON TRIBAL MEMBERS AND THE FUNDS, THERESA NIETO THAT YOU YOURSELF ARE RESPONSIBALE FOR, BEIGN THE TRIBAL TREASURE, AND BEING TRUSTED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS TRIBE BY AUTHORIZING THE FINANCIAL SERVICES THAT BELONG TO THE PALA BAND OF MISSION INDIANS.YOU YOURSELF HAVE COUNTER SIGNED MANY LARGE CHECKS AND BANKING OFFICAL DOCUMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE USED AS EVIDENCE AGAINST YOU AND ROBERT SMITH.
THERE IS SO MUCH EVIDENCE AGAINST THE TWO OF YOU THAT THE SENTENCING GIDE LINES WILL PUT YOU BEHIND BARS FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS OR LONGER, AND THATS IF THE JUDGE BELIVES ANY OF YOUR LIES.
BUT THE JUDGE MAY CHOOSE NOT TO ASK YOU ANYTHING AT ALL IF THE JUDGE BELIVES ALL OF THE EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR YOUR PROSCUTION IN THE TRIBAL (RICO ACT)ACCUSATIONS .
I HAVE SEEN SOME, BUT NOT ALL OF THINGS THAT WERE FILED AGAINST YOU AND ROBERT SMITH, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I WAS REALLY SURPRIZED AT THE DOCEMENTS THAT YOU TWO SIGHED ON BEHALF OF THE TRIBE.
I HOPE THAT YOUR FRIEND AND YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS CAN FORGIVE YOU SOMEDAY FOR YOUR ACTIONS, AND HOW ABOUT YOUR SON AND DAUGHTER, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO TELL YOUR GRAND KIDS AS TO WHY THEIR GRANDMOTHER IS LOCK UP IN FEDERAL PRISON.
ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT YOU (THE EC) FUCKED WITH THE WRONG FAMILY AND NOW YOU MUST PAY FOR IT.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND, SOMEONE WILL TAKE CARE OF HIM ALSO.
HERE IS A CHALLENGE TO ALL TRIBEL MEMBERS OF PALA, 18 YRS. OLD AND ABOVE.
Would you please take 5 minutes out of your day and read the Affidavit of Elsie Lucero and then read the testimonies of the half brothers and half sisters of MB, and see if you still think that the Britten Descendants don't belong. And then maybe you could understand our fight for justice a little better. It would be better that you read and understand all of Affidavit for your self. That way if there are any Questions or concerns you can feel free to contact any one of us to talk about it. Everything is there in black and white.
In response to 10:38 post above.
I for one took up your challenge and I have to say that the Affidavit sworn by Elsie Lucero does in fact shine a new light on things. And I
have come to think now that all the evidence that's been verified is all true, and the Descendants of Mrs. Britten do in fact belong to the Pala Band of mission Indians without any doubt. Just bring it to the General Membership for a vote, because you are all Native Americans and you do BELONG IN OUR TRIBE.
The general membership already voted on it in the 80's
Unfortunately the general membership only exists in words now, they have no say, even if they all wanted the re-enrollment of the Brittans, Robert would manipulate the voting with paid extra voters, pre-marked ballots shoved into the box or pre-calculated votes on the computers. It is so easy to cheat on voting, unless there is neutral third party involvement, but that will never happen. It seems more and more that there is only three ways to oust him, 1. the tribal members sign a petition and send it to the DOI and get him audited and they press charges against him, 2. He is arrested by the FBI for his corruption, 3. He disappears somehow or someway. The first two are up to government interference, but they do not want to get involved.
@ sept. 2 @ 10:38 PM
My Husband and I took your challenge and have changed our minds concerning the Britten family. Without any doubt the Entire britten Family does BELONG in the Pala Band of Missions 100%. I will make sure that my family and all of my Husbands family members read the Affidavit, twice if need be. Good luck Britten Family Members of Our Tribe. P/S, I will pass this on two as many people as I can, maybe even the local news paper. Or how about the TURCO files.
That was an easy challenge, and an easy mind changer for me. So now Mr. Smith what have you to say about this.
Are you MAN enough to admit that the EC was indeed wrong about the disenrollments, and you Theresa Nieto and Dion Perez how are you feeling now that the General Membership is view things in a totally different light now. You know that you are to blame for bringing your family blood line into question and its all because you didn't want to play by the rules. Here is a big question for you EC members.
When the Britten Family is Back on the Tribal rolls and they feel that you must pay for what you did to them and try to disenroll you and your family members what will happen then?. Do you think that Robert Smith will have the support of the entire Tribe to stop it, or will he just say that there is nothing that he can do because it is the will of the people.
And with all the evidence presented here I really don't see any thing to dispute it. And you know something I hope that that's what happens to you and your people because you are the only ones to blame for this happing to your family members.GREEDY, GREEDY, GREEDY.
If that infact does happen there are Welfare programs that you and your family can apply for.
SORRY, BUT WHATS RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WHATS WRONG IS WRONG.
Now what Dion Perez you non-member liar, cheater, embezzler, Frauds,
and NON CUPA BLOOD.
Just remember that it was you and only you that created this mess all by your greedy selfs. Good Luck, and may the Creator look the other way when you go crying to him for help. Never call the kettle black before you wash it.
I don't understand why Robert doesn't just re enroll the brittains? All this bitter fighting would stop. It's pretty obvious by all the documents I've seen they DO belong. Don't you EC members get tired if being hated and criticized? Wouldn't you rather be admired for do something positive and re uniting pala? Which ever EC member finally does make a stand and re enroll the britians is going to get much respect and admiration from the tribe. You would have my vote. Imagine the difference it would make on our Rez.
At least we know that if Palarez comes under the scope, he won't fight for his family to stay in, so he will be easy to disenroll.
How embarrassing its got to be for all the Lugo descendents that Pala is finding out the truth about their "little secret". Now they have to go to a meeting and vote to evict 2 of our warners ranch decendents for their dumb little trouble making relatives Dion, Theresa and Howard. I bet those 3 never thought their motions to disenroll our cupa brothers and sisters would end up exposing themselves as the real people who have no right in pala!
Well if they have NO CUPA BLOOD they need to step down and move one before someone go's postal on Dion Perez and Howard Maxcey and for sure that lying little bitch Theresa Nieto. Maybe the Pala Mission will \help her get some food stamps or a care package of some sort. Or maybe the old Padre in charge will turn her away for what she has done to the True Native CUPA people. I never understood how the old mission could even think of having such a corrupt person helping out at the Mission of the Cupa Indians. They need to give her back her donations and tell her to go to hell.
Now Dion can enter the beauty contest at Morongo in two weeks, then the wet T-shirt contest the following week.
I am so disappointed that the EC is doing this to Pala I think I will Just make a motion to impeach Robert Smith, and then motion to take all Authority from the EC until such time that an Audit is approved by the General Membership and all the findings are given to the General Membership. This will stop any spending and any purchases that the EC might want to make.
The only way that you can stop the spending is you would have to take a copy of the approved motion to the Bank and let them know that this was approved at said meeting. Or option 2, is to have an Attorney on standby to handle it. I think that the Tribe did this before when JR lavato moved some money at the Bank Of America in Fallbrook.
Does anyone have knowledge of how many Bank the Tribe has, and where?
I will do whatever it takes and may need a little help from someone who knows what steps to take. I will do the dirty job concerning the motions, because I am not afraid of Robert Smith, I mean what can he do that he hasn't done already. I am just fed up with all of the Bullshit that he is so GUILTY of, and he needs to be STOPPED, and STOPPED NOW.
NO CONECTION TO ANY CUPA BLOOD DEGREE, JUST DO ALL OF THE CUPA PEOPLE A BIG FAVOR, AND GET THE FUCK OFF OF OUR RESERVATION.ON YOUR OWN ACCORD OR WE WILL GLADLY HELP YOU PACK UP YOU SHIT.
Its not a question of IF they have no cupa blood, belive me THEY DON'T HAVE A DROP of cupa blood. All documents that have been obtained all point to Morongo, Chuilla and San Yisidro. Take a good look at how many will be forced to attend the meeting with their head's down to vote for what the EC wants to do to Kenny and Gina. In the old days if you didn't come from Warners you could not attend meetings, vote, or especially sit on the bbusiness committee, so just make them leave if they can't prove Warners Ranch decendency, CALL THE MEETING ILLEGAL and motion to adjourn.
If Maxey, Nieto and Perez can't produce any proof to show Warners Decendency every meeting from this point on IS ILLEGAL plain and simple. just because their great grandfather lied his way onto the 1913 allotment roll doesn't mean they belong here, Morongo and Cahuilla are their home, PAY BACK THE MILLIONS YOU HAVE STOLEN from the pala Indian reservation and get the F off our land
The disenrolled should have to pay back the millions they stole from the tribe to but you don't see that happening.
Palarez, you should stop kissing Robert's ass and whatever else you do with him, but you don't see that happening.
@pala Rez, do you read the posts that you are commenting on? The britian descendants should be re enrolled. The proof is a mile long.
This palarez person is sounding more and more like Shasta Kanasta, Roberts under the desk buddy. I read a post on the other Blog that someone said that they would make a CD of the lucero Affidavit for Palarez so he/she can here it instead of reading it and maybe then he/she would understand it. The Britten family have proven beyond any doubt that THEY BELONG in the Pala Band 100%. Read all the Documents that are from the United States Government, and the Affidavit by E.Lucero, Unless you are blind or a Retard it's all their in black and white.
It has been proven the Britten decendents belong, they will not have to pay back anything that is rightfully theirs, any revenue in pala belongs to them through their Agua Caliente lineage, if anything, I can see P.B.M.I. being forced to repay everthing that has bee taken from them, that day is on the horizon based on their proven lineage. Palarez doesn't know shit.
Hi PalaRez
This is very simple. Ask Robert Smith to waive sovereign immunity and let the courts decide who owes money. If you really believe the disenrollees owe money to Robert Smith then it should be a slam dunk. Thus no need for sovereign immunity. Just go to court and get the money.
They don't owe the chairman they owe the tribe. Sovereign immunity is a right and dosent and shouldn't be waived.
They don't owe the tribe anything. The tribe owes them all the per capita that hasn't been paid to them these past years.
^ Just proves all they care about is money.
pALAreZ IS GOING TO HAVE THE ISSUE OF SOVERRIGHNTY THROWN OUT THE WINDOW ALL BECAUSE OF HER FLAPPING LIPPS.
I'm not a her but ok whatever you say.
Wrong again palarez. It's you that are selfish and want their per capita for yourself. Otherwise you wouldn't have disenrolled the descendants of a full blooded Kupa Indian.
I didn't disenroll anyone but I personally don't believe she was full blooded.
She was full blooded your opinion means nothing. And any one who didn't speak against the disenrollments is culpable for the crime.
At pala rez, and why would you not believe MB was 4/4? Have you seen documentation that says other wise?
Cuz I've seen hundreds of federal documents that say she is 4/4.
There are documents saying she was half. Common sense tells you she never once said who her dad was nor did he say she was his daughter.
That makes no sense 10:52. In fact it's just plain ignorant. It has already been determined. And of course she said who her father was since all her kids knew who her father was. They always knew and always told their kids. And so on down the line. You weren't in the households as it was being told by parent to child. Margarita knew and her descendants knew. They were the ones who needed to know, not you.
Where is the document of her saying who her father was? Where is a document of him saying he was his daughter?
To Pala Rez
You know what I am so tired of you calling my great, great, grandmother
down You didn't even know her and I know that you were not in the room when Her mother got was sleeping with Peligrino Ortega. So how can you say some of the things that say, especially about someone you never knew. There is a lot of proof as to who her Father was, there was an investigation done by the BIA and others, and then the sworn testimony of the 1/2 brothers and sisters and they all stated, under oath that there statements were true. And then there is the AFFIDAVIT by Mrs. Lucero. So why is that not good enough for you and everyone else.
How many Members do you think have as much proof as to their belonging to the Pala Band of Mission Indians. It seem that any time there is more proof concerning the blood degree of my Great, Great Grandmother you come on here a chop her down, and I think that is wrong. She is part of my Family and I really wish that you would stop disrespecting her, because when you do you are disrespecting all of my Family. Would it be so hard to let her Rest in peace for once.
I think that I said this once before, but here it is again, "If you have a problem with my Family" for any reason Please come to one us and talk about it. Because it is getting harder and harder to hear all the BS that people say about her. I do not understand what she could have done to anyone for them to hold such a grudge for so many years. Even though she died before I was Born I still love and honor her memory because of they way that I was brought up. So please don't disrespect her anymore. Thank you for your understanding. Respectfully Posted by Peter Trujillo sr.
I have nothing against MB I've never called her down, all I'm saying is she can't prove to be full blood. She was undoubtedly Cupa but can only prove 50% of her blood. I am sorry you take it as me disrespecting her. When I feel I am disrespected or my family and friends are disrespected I'm going to say something, if everyone would quit running there mouth on public blogs I would have nothing negative to say about any of your family.
It has been proven 100% who she was, who her father was, and what her blood degree is and always will be. Every thing was done according to Federal Law and it is all documented in all offices of the BIA locally and in Washington DC. Why is that not good enough. And how many Tribal Members can show the proof of their blood line like the Britten Family has done?
To PalaRez, How much more proof do you need. Take a look at all the Documents is that not enough for enrollment in the Tribe? What in your eyes is it going to take to settle this issue once and for all.
Thanks
Respectfully posted
By, Peter Trujillo sr.
Then 3:11 must be a Lugo or close ties to a Lugo. And must be resentful of the truth being told about his background as a Morongo member and paid teamster who helped herd the Kupas to Pala. Well you aren't the only family in Pala but you sure helped disenroll real Kupas to ensure you could control the voting outcomes. No matter what else 3:11 says he/she is defending with a vengeance their wrongdoing because they are scared stiff of the repercussions to their families enrollment.
What it's going to take is people need to quit making tribal affairs public, and need to quit bad mouthing the EC or anyone in Pala for that matter. If no one was talking s*** I'd have nothing to say but everyone seems to want to run there mouth, so of course I'm going to say something especially if it concerns my family or friends.
The EC illegally disenrolled legitimate tribal members. There is document after document proving MB is 4/4. Robert went on television speaking about the disenrollments. Are you mad at him for going public? This fighting would all stop if the the EC would re enroll. But if not the courts will decide.
Sorry pala Rez but we are not just going to sit quietly and have our rights ripped away. We are going to fight this all the way. We are not being treated equally.
At 8:44 stop badmouthing Margarita Britten.
How am I bad mouthing MB? Stop bad mouthing the EC and the tribe. The chairman did not call to be interviewed Gina Howard and King are the ones that went to the media and having them contact the tribe for a comment.
We are not bad mouthing the EC. We are pointing out facts of missing money and corruption
You constantly bad mouth her. Remember she is also Aunt to the Lavatos. She knew who her father was and family were. Stop saying she didn't. You weren't in her house or talking to her children and grandchildren. You're nothing but psychopathic narcissist with no feelings. Leave her family alone. Thank God it's in the courts. Yes the disenrolled will be reenrolled and the chairman and Nieto and Dion will have wasted millions on their own personal whims. They are deathly afraid of what will happen to them when they can't hide behind their special bloc of family voters. Yea Remijo Lugo the Morongo Indian descendants. Hope all the other families in Pala are enjoying their benefits going to imposter and land grabbers. Shame shame as you flaunt your sorry selves around Pala.
@Palarez, you are totally disrespectful, we did not start this fight,we did not send out huge packet of false info about our family spreading hate and rumors about us, we did not strip anyone of their rights, we did not commit any crime. We were not allowed to have due process, we were not allowed to have a general council vote, and we were never really told exactly why we were disenrolled. You just claimed in an earlier post, " When I feel I am disrespected or my family and friends are disrespected I'm going to say something,", so why is our defending our family wrong to you. We have always been respectful, we have not done any violence, although we have been threatened with violence and some of us have experienced some of the most hateful actions by our own cousins, because of this mess. We have been laughed at, disgraced, kicked out of our homes, yelled at, constantly taunted by others, divided from relatives who we used to be able to hang with peacefully. We have had everything taken from us, and can no longer be buried next to our loved ones. We have listen to others bad mouth us and our family over and over, and tell me what we did to deserve this hatred. We have showed our proof over and over, and you know there was a mistake at one point that needed to be corrected, because you said it yourself that the rolls were messed up, it has been proven from us over and over. SO now go look up your ancestors and see how far back you can go knowing the name of every parent, grand-parent, great-parent, great-great-grandparent, and put it on here for us to see, to prove to us that you belong. How dare you, you have no clue what this has done to us, it is much more than you can ever understand unless it is you going through it. Our hearts are heavy, and your biased words are like knives stabbing us in the back. We are sorry that your pal Robert and his fellow EC members have committed such corruption, that it is not our fault, we are defending ourselves, they keep coming at us with crap, so yes we are going to let the people know what kind of leader that Pala has, he knew that this would cause so much commotion, but he did not realize how much fight we have in us, how much proof we have, and that we are not idiots. Pala needs to heal, and it will begin with the ousting of the current EC.
I'm not saying you are the one disrespecting the Ec or tribe, but there are plenty of your cousin's that do look at all the comments they post. I'll defend mine just like you will defend yours.
When the EC does the right thing, they will get respect. If they were good leaders that cared about all of their members, then they would get respect. Instead, they have eliminated rightful members and enrolled wrong ones, some that have no Indian blood at all. They have chosen to look at one family with one set of rules and the others with a different set of rules, and they have denied truth over their own dislike for certain members. That is an abuse of their leadership position.
@ 8:44AM You probably don't have any real friends and when your family finds out who you really are, they will be so ashamed of your mouth that you may not have all of them supporting you.
So go wash your mouth out and start over again.
The law reads that a Tribe has the right to say who belongs and who doesn't. I still can't find any law that says that the EC has that right. According to the Documents on file The Tribe is the deciding factor and that was never done according to all the records on file.
It was done by the EC and not by the Pala band as a whole.
So the EC steps outside of there Authority and takes the disenrollment issue into their own accord and disenrolls the Brittens, when the Supreme Court states that A TRIBE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE THERE OWN MEMBERSHIP, and it says nothing about the EC making that decision. So I guess that the Supreme Court means nothing to the Pala Band. THE TRIBE, THE TRIBE HAS THE RIGHT so where is the Documents that say the Pala Band of Mission Indians Disenrolled the Britten Family. Their is none So the Tribe did not do it, it was the EC 3 of which have no CUPA BLOOD TIES 0000000none not even a mini drop.So how is this to be considered legal.
To Palarez@8:44AM
Does that include King Freeman also, because it seems that that is your purpose in life. To Disrespect an Elder is not right.
That is very True 5:49 PM
The way that the U.S. Supreme court states it is "A TRIBE has the RIGHT to Determine There Own Membership.
Also their is the fact that according to the BIA Regional Office IN SACRAMENTO the Pala Band of Missions Is Organized Under It's ARTICALS OF ASSOCIATIONS,NOT A CONSTITUTION.SO that would mean that the BIA does in fact make that FINAL SAY over the Tribes ENROLLMENT. So now if the 9th Circuit Court Agrees with the Pala Case, then the BIA will be forced to comply with Federal Court Ruling. Plus the fact that the 1989 FINAL DECISION was Documented as FINAL for THE BIA.And that would mean that the EC broke a Federal Law by over turning the 1989 Decision.
HOW CAN THE TRIBE LET A PERSON OR PERSONS WITH NO BLOOD DEGREE TO THE CUPA PEOPLE RUN THE RESERVATION AND ALL THE FINANCIES. MOST MEMBERS DON'T EVEN TRUST THE BANKING INDUSTRY,BUT THEY ARE EXPECTED TO TRUST ROBERT, THERESA, DION, AND HOWARD WITH THEUR LIVELY HOOD.
I THINK IT'S WAY PAST THE TIME TO CLEAN UP THE EC MATTER AND GET A FRESH START WITH A NEW COUNCIL.
I don't get this whole mess. Do you mean that the EC can disenroll members but they can't evict someone from the Reservation without the Approval of the General Membership? That just doesn't sound right .
Blah blah blah.
1) King is the so called leader for the disenrolled and has made up rumors and lies about the EC just because he envys the fact he can not be chairman, he can make up whatever facts he wants because don't worry for all his modified paperwork there are originals.
2) Don't worry about my friends worry about you and yours, your opinion doesn't concern or affect me.
3) @2:03 no the EC can not evict some without the GC voting on it
Come on now Robert originals to all the "modified" paperwork? You and your mom Amy Dutsuke are the only ones stupid enough to monkey with offical federal documents that comment was ridiculous. Wait, there's more, explain how someone can make up a "FACT", a fact is a fact, not something that is made up, something "made up" would be fictitious, or inaccurate, sorta like the B.S. you attempt to feed your "made up" band of Morongo decendents. And I don't think because he allows your opposition to post information about everything you have done wrong in pala and to the pala people makes him the leader of the disenrolled, now you see that is a good example of "a made up fictitious inaccurate comment", but this kind of diarrhea spewing out of your mouth has become all to commonplace over the years. And im sure there is no envy from anyone to be a chairman of a tribe that is unorganized, landless, and with no governing documents, (old pala). Or the alternative, the P.B.M.I, (pala band of morongo indians). Damn stop talking here after a nite of sitting on that bar stool. Please!
This string of PalaRez is not Robert Smith. this is his pro hack Doug Elmets. Remember Doug Elmets was the first to release the news about the MB disenrollments and how they were justified. Elmets is just as worried as RS is about being drawn and quartered by the Cupa People. Better learn you history before you declare victory mr. doug. You are supposed to be smarter than that. What does Robert pay you per post on the blogs, the usual fee $5,000 per post. Yes you will be on the RICO list when we start the wheels of justice turning. so get rich as fast as you can here. you will need the extra money for your defense counsel. Howard the Coward will be sitting next to you so don't look to him for free attorney service.
Actually I'm not a lawyer but will take that as a complement. I'm not employed by the tribe of Rs but I do support them.
Notice comment above. And I quote "employed by the tribe of Robert smith". Tribe OF. So you do believe it is YOUR tribe. Wow you are a sociopath.
? for PALAREZ, Why didn't the EC follow the rules on the disenrollments? According to The Federal and Tribal Law, a Tribe has the right to determine there own membership. Well the Tribe or the General Membership had no part in the disenrollment of the Brittens.
The United States Supreme Court is the one that says this. So why didn't the EC follow these guide lines?. By this action on the part of the EC, it seems that the whole action is illegal, because they didn't follow the rules that were set forth in the Supreme Court Rulings, on different decisions made by the said Court.
I ment or .
@palarez.... There no documents that list Margarita as half. All documents list her as full. So it sounds like you are being misinformed. I understand that you have some sort of respect for the EC, so if you do...do some research. Look at the documents yourself, and you to will see the truth. Be someone of strength and of your own mind, read the documents and then help your EC to do what is right. If the tables were turned, and it was you that the EC was attacking, I'm sure you would fight for what is right. Many people from the tribe and other tribes support the dis enrolled families, cause they also know the truth. I'm sorry to say your leader isn't very well respected. Ask yourself this,... Your leaders bloodline is in question and they claim to have documents to prove their blood, but why isn't the documents the Brittian family brings to the table just as good. I just doesn't sound fair now does it? I'm not trying to attack you or your ability to have your own opinion, but I am asking you as a Native American brother, to be what your elders have handed down in you...and research and pray, the truth is there. God be with you and the dis enrolled families. God is Good, God is righteous, God is the truth. Don't shut your eyes to him or what he is putting right in front of you, You and your families will call on him one day and you want to make sure you are righteous! God isn't new to this world he was with your elders when this was settled...so the ones that have brought this up and are doing wrong you should pray for them, cause it is them that will be judged when God is ready to expose them...I pray that God has mercy on them. God bless you and your tribe.
@ Palarez 11:07 am
What do you mean when you say that you are not employed by the Tribe RS.You Blew it .
it's spelled MEANT not ment Robert, crap what grade did you complete?
Palarez, why are you so mad a king?. did he turn you down after you tried to get him in the sack. That's what it sounds like. sounds like a young high school girl that couldn't get the donkey to do her at a Friday night football game.
The only thing I've heard out of PALAREZ that is true fact. Is that for all the falsified paperwork. There are originals. Which if PALAREZ would look at the real facts. He would see that we do in fact hold those. The doctored and altered paperwork that the ec has is from Amy d office. Our real u falsified documents are from dc out of reach for the master falsifiers of Amy d and rs. So spout all your gibberish you would like. Everyone who knows the truth. Knows. The day will come when the reconing will begin. And I personally believe that day will be very soon. Keep up the fight for the true descendants of the Warner ranch evictees and not the fake white German rs and his band of adopted fakes.
To PalaRez sept 6 @1107 AM
Why don't you take all the support that you have for your beloved EC and stick it up your never ending Ass. I am guessing that you still have room up in there after all the shit that RS and the EC are feeding you.
@ 7:45 AM
That day is even closer than any one thinks. Things are being put together so that no one can dispute the charges that are being brought against certain members of the EC and OTHERS. The reason it has taken this long is that the Investigators have had to verify every lead to make sure that the charges will stick and hold up in Federal Court. That way NO ONE will walk away free, and they will ALL
be held ACCOUNTABLE FOR THERE PARTS.
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