A couple of interesting quotes from the article:
"The long battle over sports betting in California took another team last week when it was reported the Pala Band of Mission Indians is considering a new initiative in 2024. That means they must collect over 870,000 signatures from tribal members in less than five months. If they can get the signatures in time, it would lead to another referendum in 2024."
Also:
"The new initiative was expected to be announced last week, but the tribe still has not done so. One likely reason is pushback from other tribes in the Sunshine State. Pala is known for going rogue from other tribes, many of which do not support the legalization of sports betting. However, the blowback from working with the state to push through sports betting without their fellow tribes would be massive. It would likely also lead to yet another failed referendum."
Another article:
Quote:
"Pala Chairman Robert Smith sent a communication to some tribal leaders Sunday giving them a heads up that the tribe will issue a news release Monday regarding filing a sports betting initiative for 2024."
Also in the News:
Rumorville
And there are rumors upon rumors. I don't who or what to believe anymore so I don't really believe any of it.
Supposedly Pala is going to or already did buy Pala Mesa Resort. Then Robert wants to put this land into trust and build a casino on it. Does Robert still sit on the California Fee to Trust Consortium along with Amy Dutschke?
What was this about Robert wanting to shut the casino down? Is that even true? Weird times.
When Biden signed this bill for the land into trust it was quoted by Biden that Robert Smith said that the tribe bought this land for,13,500,000.
ReplyDeleteHowever, when Robert told the people at the meeting that the price for the land was 15 million.
So where is the other $1.5 million dollars that was approved
as the purchase price.
The tribal members should all vote it down until they have an forensic Audit done to see where all money that comes and goes is accounted for.
ReplyDeleteIf this gets approved your per capita will be affected by
probably cut in half.
Instead of voting for this, vote to impeach Rob and Nieto.
Then your per capita will increase by at least 5 thousand a month more.
MORE KARMA NEW'S
ReplyDeleteLEROY MIRANDA, FORMER VICE CHAIRMAN FROM PALA HAS DIED.
I WONDER WHO IS NEXT THAT HAS DESTROYED THE CUSTOMS AND
TRIDATIONS OF THE PALA INDIAN RESERVATION.
I AM PUTING MY DOLLAR ON EITHER ROBERT SMITH OR NIETO.
FREEMAN karma too. What’s up with that old lady Randy ?
ReplyDelete@ 11:14
ReplyDeleteWhat are you talking about?
Are we gonna get a Thanksgiving BONU$
ReplyDeleteTony Ravago needs to stop trying to do new things at the Pala Raceway and fix all the old stuff that needs fixing ! He is waisting the tribes money.
ReplyDeleteGood point.. This is a good reason why we should Vote Brandon Johnson for Vice Chairman. Tony is a failure as V C. Even the firemen have no respect for him.
ReplyDeleteCARLA NEJO HAS MY VOTE !
ReplyDeleteHow can the Ravago lady run for tribal Sect.when she has a
ReplyDeletecriminal record for having a loaded firearm and driving under the influence of drugs and running from the police in her pickup on the reservation.
She has no experience as a Sect.and no business background.
She would only be a yes person for the chairman and her uncle tony Ravago the V.C.
Vote with you brain and don't be fooled.
VOTE- CARLA NEJO FOR THE EC SEAT, THERESSA VILLA FOR SECT. AND BRANDON JOHNSON FOR VICE CHAIR. BRANDON JOHNSON IS VERY SMART AND HAS A GOOD CLEAN RECORD AS A BUSINESS MAN.
he WILL TREAT ALL MEMBERS WITH RESPECT AND FAIRNESS AND MOST INPORTANT HE WILL NOT BE ANOTHER YES MAN TO THE CHAIRMAN. HE WIIL DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE TRIBE AS A WHOLE
AND NOT FOR A CHOISEN FEW.
Torres/Martinez, La Jolla running Paia business?
ReplyDeleteWell, it looks like we have a new vice chairman in Pala.
ReplyDeleteBrandon Johnson unseated Tony Ravago in the tribal elections. Also, Carla Neijo won the vacant EC seat and Theressa Villa remains the tribal sectary.
Can't wait until next year when someone will replace Smith and Nieto. Or maybe Smith will finally face the death bell.
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LETS GO BRANDON !!! SORRY 😁
ReplyDeleteWell Tony,
ReplyDeleteYou haven't done anything positive for the tribe ! The Raceway is in the hole and you put us there. We voted you in hopping you would be better than Howard and you were just like him.
Maybe now we have enough good and honesty on the EC to force change and transparency. I hate saying this cause it affects us all but I hear the casino is not doing well. This has been said by employees and former players. If you play at other casinos and meet other players you will hear a lot of them say they use to play at Pala or recently stopped playing there for reasons ranging from less offers and amenities to their thoughts on how things are being run and who they blame. Every casino has gamblers that have something bad to say but that’s just the foods not good or the machines are tight. What people are saying now and more often are not the usual talk/complaining. Even guests and employees say they know about the casinos money troubles and that they are going broke. Start up a conversation with players next time your at any of the surrounding casinos. We need to worry and we need answers so I hope the EC will give those.
ReplyDeleteIf your a TRIBAL MEMBER THAT GOES TO THE MEETINGS you will know everything is fine.
ReplyDeleteThat statement is said like a well paid Robert smith advocate
ReplyDeleteGet you head out of his ass.
ReplyDelete@ 8:43 PM.
ReplyDeleteGoing t6o the tribal meetings is like watching a rerun of General Hospital on T.V.
The EC only tells the members what they want you to believe.
You can't ask questions about any income from tribal
investments and get a honest answer.
You really think that the board would tell us if things weren't going good? I don't think they would...they would just cover there own asses as usual right! Cuz that's the business that they have developed and continue to do til this day and they do it cuz we let them. If we don't start speaking up soon it will be too late. Look where being quite has gotten us...and look how pretty rob and his people sit, and when the dust settles there gonna walk away fat and happy with full pockets and we're gonna be back in line for food comods. We need change now cuz from what I've heard and seen. We're screwed. I mean we already make less than every other tribe that has a casino..why is that?? Shouldn't that be our sign? I guess if we don't say anything it's our own fault in the end and we're the ones who let Robert screw us..so we only have ourselves to thank for the demise of Pala and the casino.
ReplyDeleteAnd one more thing.....you really think the new electees are gonna do anything good for us?? I doubt it!!! They're just new puppets with new strings!
ReplyDeleteWrong, the puppets didn't get elected and the brown noser
ReplyDeletevice chairman lost his seat to the newly elected vice.
Defund the EC and hire a private firm to manage all the tribal enterprises.
ReplyDeleteOr gives the decision making back to the general membership.
The members of the tribe have no knowledge of all the so-called investments that the tribe has made. Just like all the payments that members make on their new homes and the interest on those loans should all be broken down and give the general membership a true and honest Quartey report.
Each and every investment should have a separate report on the income and the cost of operating expenses.
There is never a break down when the EC wants to pass the yearly budget. It is just a total cost for funding each department for the following year so the membership has no clue if those figures are correct or are inflated to cover
other things that they don/t want the members to know about. In other words it called a blind budget.
So if they're hiding so much, lying to us at our meetings, not taking the condition of our casino into account, we see no improvement of anything, percaps and bonuses are questionable on if, and amount, we should motion for new leadership. This is our tribe right? Or is it his tribe? It's been so long since I felt like I had a voice here in Pala. I feel more pushed and shoved around by the ec than supported as a member of this community. I guess our traditions don't matter at all.
ReplyDeleteWas there another RAID in Pala ?
ReplyDelete@ 10:51
ReplyDeleteNot yet but I hear one is coming soon.
I thought we had voted on a $20.000 BONUS ?
ReplyDeleteThey took away the $5000 Quarterly bonus's so this 15 K
ReplyDeletethat we got this year doesn't even amount to the Quarterly
bonus that they took away. Plus, there was no thanksgiving bonus this year either.
There should be no reason that the bonus should have been at the very least 30,000.
I guess that what we get for not standing up to the EC and just sitting back and believing what they want us to believe.
Damn when are you guys gonna be tired and do something about the way he's bending you all over f*cking you right in the brown eye? It's funny from the outside looking in...stand up for yourselves already and quit crying
ReplyDeleteThat’s Robs move. He did that during the dis-enrollments when he lowered the percap 1,000 and people were like WTF you just stopped percap on over 100 people and shrank the amount of people still getting it so how come it didn’t go up? Then he gave us a 500 raise which some people actually called a raise. Sad how easy it was to shut them up with a $500 decrease.
ReplyDeleteAll I know is if other tribes in the same geographic are are getting way more...it doesn't take a genius to know that something is wrong! If you look at history...not of Pala but similar situations, empires, kingdoms, whatever...it only takes bad leadership of one man to crumble kingdoms, history has a funny way of always repeating itself...do something before it's too late...and what I'm saying is better do it soon...the kingdom is falling and your king doesn't care about you
ReplyDeleteMaybe we will get a New Years BONU$
ReplyDeleteNothing but sheep,get your head out your asses
ReplyDeletePeople are complaining about Robert Smiths Nephew sleeping in the Pala Casino ! I have seen people taking pictures of him laying in the hallway near the event room and in the lobby!
ReplyDeletei have a couple of pictures of him sleeping at the Casino.
ReplyDeleteHow can I have them posted on the blog so people can't say that it is just bullshit.
That Smith kid is just a slob of a person. He goes around the Casino telling customer that his uncle owns the Casino and that it is okay for him to sleep in there and that he even gets to eat in the restraints for free.
ReplyDeleteHe needs to be banned from the Casino and from Pala also.
He is not a tribal member, and he is a threat to the whole
community and the customers at the casino.
Has karma started to set in on the others behind the disenrollments yet? One’s in the ground what about the others. Looking for karma to set in on them in 2024.
ReplyDeleteLook up what Karma is !
ReplyDeleteI did and it’s coming your way in 2024
ReplyDeleteOur casino employees didn't even get a Christmas Dinner this year ! Are we hurting that bad ? A casino employee said our manager doesn't care about anything but making himself look good.
ReplyDeleteWe need to have the casino run by an outside organization like how Rincon does...look how good they're doing. I just don't feel comfortable with Robert in the captain seat anymore..he's blowing it...and only looking out for himself...we need to do something people..he may be labeled our chairman but he's not looking out for us or the future of our business or our families
ReplyDeleteYou were told that back before 2011 and you wouldn’t listened to it.
ReplyDeleteThats what happens when you have your head in the ground,Im sure you are the same person who would not speak up about the disenrollments.reep what you soil
ReplyDelete* reap what you sow
ReplyDeleteI hope Brandon and Carla will be able to help get our tribe headed in the right direction! Maybe we should concentrate on getting Sheila out next. What about getting Barnes in her spot ?
ReplyDeleteIf you all want the needed change and are not chicken shit
ReplyDeletefigure out how to get Smith and Nieto out.
Thats the only way we will get the tribe back together as a whole.
Maybe smith will die before the next election.
The odds are in our favor that this will happen.
So why the concern at this time all of a sudden.Maybe you all should have showed the same concern when they were doing the illegal disenrollments.It is easy to put your sand in the ground.
ReplyDeleteThe Disenrollments sucked, but those are in the passed. We need to look to the future. One step at a time.
ReplyDeleteAll the cursed losses are a reminder that you can’t move on without atonement.
DeleteSure they are in the past if it dont affect you.cant have future if you dont cirrect the past!
ReplyDeleteBut it did affect me personally. Quit assuming that everyone feels the same way you do.
ReplyDeleteGoing going gone.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't fix the past there will be no future.
ReplyDeleteIt's like putting a band aid on a cut that needed stitches.
It may heal but the scare will never go away.
There are many many wrong doings that have been done to our tribe ! They can never be undone.
ReplyDeleteDo you guys want to move back to Warners?
ReplyDeleteNo we will stay here! Since we all know who this land rightfully belongs to. It's too bad the wrong people run pala. That will change though, half of you don't even know what's coming
ReplyDeleteThe only good news that could happen in Pala is that Smiths obituary is published in the local newspaper along with Nieto's.
ReplyDeleteI don't wish that on their families...but for justice to be carried out and the wrongs made right and for the sake of the people who rightfully belong here and for those that shouldn't be here that have somehow staked claim should all be dealt with civilly. I feel that day is quickly approaching!!
ReplyDeleteI tried to get on the agenda to talk about some personal issues and was denied.
ReplyDeleteThey said that personal issues aren't tribal business and
to contact the chairman's office and he would decide on the issues.
Not even a community anymore just a business in their eyes…
DeleteKING SMITH 🤴
ReplyDeleteIts Roberts world,the tribe just waits for their monthly goverment cheeze hand out.
ReplyDeleteRob is the KING OF SHIT.
ReplyDeleteThey should cut off his rotten legs and stick them up his ass.
He thinks no one will hurt him because he is in a wheelchair.
I would like to tie that wheelchair to my car with him in it and go as fast as possible up Pala Temecula Road so he could feel the
fear that he inflicts on tribal members.
THEN DO IT !
ReplyDeleteWhat the F. I wanted to bet on the GD Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. Couldn’t find an app because I was in California. What is taking so long for this initiative? I wish they would’ve already passed it. Would’ve won some dam money on my CHIEFS! (Ps I love Native American mascots too). Go Chiefs!
ReplyDeleteThat initiative is gonna shot down. Other tribes will lobby against it.
ReplyDeleteRobs got rotting legs? Hopefully he’s so immobile he shits and pisses his self and his whole family has to smell it.
ReplyDeleteAshes to ashes dust to dust get rid of smith and nieto or your asses will bust.
ReplyDeleteAMEN.
IDIOT
ReplyDeleteThings do need to change but the comment above is pretty lame...let's all just hope that the truth come to the surface and that the way things have been getting done are over ....has anyone else noticed all the new people in Pala?? I used to know everyone and now I don't know anyone
ReplyDeleteI think with Robert Smith is done to everybody is lame.
ReplyDelete@ March 7 10:20pm
ReplyDeleteThat’s because Pala issues its own CDIBs now and can raise anyone’s blood degree for enrollment even if the BIA/ official CDIB says otherwise. Problem is not everyone outside Pala will accept these. When Rob and Nieto are out and an enrollment audit is done on everyone enrolled in the last 10 years they will be found out. It’s not everyone but most know the ones enrolled as adults or whose kids were all the sudden enrolled when there weren’t before for so long. Don’t believe they “found more blood”
Name them if your so smart
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure that day is soon approaching. Things should be made right. There's people that rightfully belong here that have been ousted while others are here illegitimately..it's gonna be hard days for the ones who know they don't belong...they know who they are..and we know how it feels, they'll be alright
ReplyDeleteDo you mean like the Riggs kids ?
ReplyDeleteThe Duro kids ?
The Ravago kids ?
How is it that Ann Ynez is always having work done on her house ? Is she using all our Elders money for herself ? Is she an Elder ?
ReplyDeleteMust have hit a sensitive subject !
ReplyDeleteI think so as no one is commenting! The hard days are coming for them!!
ReplyDeleteIt better happen soon. They will be turning 18 soon.
ReplyDeleteIs there anything going on in Pala ?
ReplyDeleteYes! Pala Raceway is having Special Events every weekend ! Ask Tony Ravago how much money the Tribe made. He will say once again " We don't have those figures yet " Fn Liar
ReplyDeleteYou all remember the time fat rob and his 1/2 brother andrew drove the fire truck through the flooded dip by the casino and it got swept away. Hes been making poor choices forever it seems.
ReplyDeleteCouncil member here. No one in the history of Pala has ever been “Wrongly unenrolled.” They have simply failed to suck the toes on Rob’s dead leg long enough to stay enrolled. What are you not understanding?
ReplyDeleteI don’t understand. Pala tribal members were wrongly disenrolled. Thats why till this day nothing but hearsay or unproven documents has been shown as proof.
DeleteIt was sarcasm.
DeleteA quote I just heard: You don’t get to play with peoples life and then determine how they respond. You can pick your choice but you don't get to pick your consequence. Most know who this applies to.
ReplyDeleteWhy did it take almost 10 hours to tally the votes for the tribal elections in Pala that were held on 11/19/24. Thats longer than the polls were open.
ReplyDeleteIf rob wanted Howard to win then Howard would’ve won.
ReplyDeleteThat’s 100% true. He has perfected the election process over the years. That’s why every position has turn around except chairman and treasurer.
DeleteThere is an article in the Temecula patch today about that shooting in temecula last week. Shawna Harper and her son James have been arrested and are being held on a $500,000 bond for attempted murder. Their connection to Pala is Shawna Harper, AKA Shawna Goodpasture is the daughter of Jimbo Goodpasture. There is a rumor
ReplyDeletegoing around that they should be banned from Pala for
being a direct threat to the safety of the residents of Pala
and the surrounding community.
Oh you mean the no bloods, shouldn't even be enrolled
ReplyDeleteI hope they arrest Jimbo Goodpasture for his role in the shooting for helping get rid of the car and other evidence. And helping to hide his nephew from the cops.
ReplyDeleteDon't you mean his grandson.
ReplyDeleteTesting
ReplyDeleteYeeeaaah!!! WE GOT A RAISE
ReplyDeleteReally I didn’t notice it, but then I don’t always check the total deposit or maybe I didn’t notice the extra $50 dollar raise. Hahahah
ReplyDeleteAn 800-dollar increase is not raise considering we used to around 20 thousand a lifetime ago. And that's when the Casino wasn't as busy as it is now and we had a lot more members back then. And at least one hundred members have passed aways cense the Casino opened and over 150 were illegally taken off the roles. WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY.
ReplyDeleteStan McGarr recently passed away in Palm Springs.
ReplyDeleteHello,
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if anyone might have some information on the Chorre clan from Pala? I’m a direct lineal descendant of Sebastian Chorre and am just trying to learn more about him
I have never herd that name.
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